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HQ - Dante 225

Troops

10 * Assault Squad 235
2 * meltagun
PF

10 * Assault Squad 235
2 * meltagun
PF


10 * Assault Squad 225
2 * flamer
PF

9 * Death Company 335
1 PF
Lemartes (he is included as the 9th man)

Death Company Dreadnought 125
Blood Talons


Elites

3 Sanguinary Priests 270
3 PW
3 JP


Heavy Support

Stormraven 200
Twin Linked MM
Twin Linked Assault Cannon


Here is some pics of my stormraven ( I just put weapons on it so I need to update the pics)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/113002-.html?m=2



Simple, DC and Dread ride in style and the rest deepstrike in.

Dante doesn't do much for this list, and whats with the power weps on the priests? its a waste of points IMO, a smart foe will almost always pick off your priest first as hes an IC. Use those points elseware

I just like the Dante model, so I want to use him. He adds hit and run to the squad he is attached to. Not to mention the nice death mask he has.

As for the PW on the priests, I will consider getting rid of those.

pdawg517 wrote: I just like the Dante model, so I want to use him. He adds hit and run to the squad he is attached to. Not to mention the nice death mask he has.

As for the PW on the priests, I will consider getting rid of those.

Ah true that about dante! I think hes primarily best with sang guard, but his death mask does work well with some AM's!

IMO its a waste to field Dante without the guard. I like the Dante model as well but the nice thing about him is taking the guard as a scoring unit.

I would think about brining Mephiston over Dante.....or even the Sanguinor. With Mephiston well...he's Mephiston...the dude rips land raiders open with his bare hands. As for the Sangunior you can boost a sergeant, you can re roll failed hit and wounds on an enemy HQ and you get a nice 3+ i save.

Other than that close to my 2k list I use currently.

Mephiston is a consideration. As I try out this list I will consider the guard. I have the models because they are so nice. I will have to try using the DC then the guard and see how it works out.


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Just remembered, Mephiston is not an IC. So putting him in the Stormraven with DC can't happen.

If only DC tycho could be attached to the DC, I would love that!

Why can't you take DC Tycho with the DC? My understanding was that you could only have 1 unit of DC unless you take Astorath then the limit is removed. So if your not fielding Astorath and Tycho is DC he would have to be in your DC unit.

Now he can't take a jump pack so if your other DC's do its pointless to have him.

You may want to consider the fact that you have no Psychic defense. Idk, just something to consider.

Also if you wanna beef up the combat ability of some of your units, consider a Chaplin. I know they are better with DC but the Re-rolls to hit go along way. Either a librarian or a chaplin, its up to you, if you want a different, and cheaper HQ unit.

With my Salamanders I don't run a Libby and do very well.

DC Tycho is not an IC so he cannot join a unit.


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HQ - Dante 225

Troops

10 * Assault Squad 235
2 * meltagun
PF

10 * Assault Squad 235
2 * meltagun
PF


10 * Assault Squad 225
2 * flamer
PF

9 * Death Company 365
1 PF
2 Infernus Pistols
Lemartes (he is included as the 9th man)

Death Company Dreadnought 125
Blood Talons


Elites

3 Sanguinary Priests 225
3 JP


Heavy Support

Stormraven 215
EA
Twin Linked MM
Twin Linked Assault Cannon


Here is some pics of my stormraven ( I just put weapons on it so I need to update the pics)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/113002-.html?m=2



Simple, DC and Dread ride in style and the rest deepstrike in.

I realize DC Tycho is not an IC, but neither is Lemartes. Tycho is being inducted into the DC and since you can only take 1 unit of DC without Astorath then by default he is part of your DC.

I realize Lemartes and Tycho are classified as seperate unit types, but if he is inducted into DC then he does not count as an IC (codex shows he drops IC) and is considered to be part of your dc. Otherwise you could only take Tycho and no other dc units as he would fill your 1 unit of DC which makes no sense.

Lemartes is an addition to the squad not his own unit.

And by inducting Tycho into the DC it's the same thing, he becomes an addition to the DC unit.

It's your call, but like I mentioned before, we have a cap of 1 unit of DC unless you take Astorath then you can have as many DC units as you like.

By what your saying the only way you could ever take Tycho is by taking him alone with no other DC as he now becomes the DC unit himself or by including Astorath so that you could have Tycho as 1 DC unit and the rest of your regular DC as the other unit. That just doesn't make sense...

The way I read the codex entry is that he is "inducted" into the DC and if your inducted into something you become a part of it.

Gawl wrote:And by inducting Tycho into the DC it's the same thing, he becomes an addition to the DC unit.

It's your call, but like I mentioned before, we have a cap of 1 unit of DC unless you take Astorath then you can have as many DC units as you like.

By what your saying the only way you could ever take Tycho is by taking him alone with no other DC as he now becomes the DC unit himself or by including Astorath so that you could have Tycho as 1 DC unit and the rest of your regular DC as the other unit. That just doesn't make sense...

The way I read the codex entry is that he is "inducted" into the DC and if your inducted into something you become a part of it.

Sadly that's not the way it works. Tycho stands alone on the table when you field him, he lacks the IC special rule. He may not join units nor can other units join him. IMO DC Tycho is worthless in comparison to the other Blood Angel HQ's.

However, I do think you can take him without breaking the DC restriction because Death Company Tycho is just a different version of him. I could be wrong but Tycho is just Tycho, not Captain Tycho or Death Company Tycho.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/287961.page#1467662

DC Tycho is not Death Company. Therefore you can take him and DC and still be within your 0-1 limit. As for being inducted into the DC, that is fluff not the rules. He is not an IC and therefore cannot join any unit. Lemartes is an upgrade to a unit therefore he is part of the unit.

IMO, DC Tycho should only be allowed to join DC. GW should errata or faq a special rule in for DC Tycho so that he may go with DC.

dont forget that if you take dante he makes S. Guard troop choices.

I would keep the power swords on the priests. They strike at I5 when charging & have WS5... not much else is going to hit before them & the extra power weapon attacks can win combats. I have Been using power swords for my priests & it has worked very well.

Overall I really like your list & do something quite similar with my Stormraven. I have heard GW will fix the problem with DC Tycho when the errata for BA is eventually released. Until then you could just run the other version so he can join the DC. he's still pretty darn good without the DC buffs.

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I have tried PW's and yes they do some damage, but not enough before the Priest eats a PF. I have a friend who did something good with priests. He moved them out of coherency of the squad and behind a small piece of terrain so he could claim a cover save in the coming shooting phase. He was close enough to keep the FC and FnP!

As for Sanguinary Guard as troops, I know Dante makes them troops but I feel like the DC may have more hitting power ( And a DC dread with Blood Talons is a MONSTER!!!)

With a full charge & attacks coming from both a power sword & power fist combined you have much better odds of destroying the unit on the charge. BA don't want to get tied up in protracted rounds of close combat. I rarely lose my priests to singled out attacks in cc. Just make sure to place him in a position that is out of position of the enemy power fist & he will be fine. You stand a much greater chance of losing him to shooting if he is standing alone.

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