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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 16:15:50
Subject: Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Lethal Lhamean
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None of the Chaos gods really seem to feed off Fear.
I'm guessing the answer is Nurgle but he's so gross I know little about him. But it seems from the little I have read he ensnares those who fear death..
Its just I was thinking in the 41st millennium fear is probably the most common emotion experienced by humans. So their should be a Chaos god for it right? Maybe the god of Fear is too scared to show his face? haha.
What do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 17:09:22
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Snivelling Workbot
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Yeah i'd say Nurgle: those who FEAR death turn to him for immortality
but in Codex:eldar it says about the Creation of Slaanesh, how it was spawned by the perversity and corruption of the eldar.
So surely all the fear in that grim-dark galaxy must have formed conciousness in the warp and fed on mortal fear to become a full chaos god.
(edited for spelling)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 18:02:02
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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It's Nurgle. His portfolio includes fear, despair and apathy.
He waxes strong when mortals fear death.
Straight from Chaos Codices.
You'd be surprised though about the strongest Chaos God. According to fluff it's Khorne who feeds off anger and hatred. Closely followed by Tzeentch who feeds off hope and ambition.
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Change and change until Change is our master, for nothing neither God nor mortal can hold that which has no form. Change is the constant that cannot be changed.
No game of chess can be won without pawns, and this may prove to be a very long game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 18:16:52
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I can see how Nurgle would feed off of fear, but it seems like a specific fear. (I'm sure your right though and its in the codex.)
What would be interesting is a chaos god (as there are others) that fed off pure fear, terror and horror. A god such as that would be intriguing in his manifestations. Does he prefer a frightening shock or a slow creeping horror? He may not even demand death and killing, unless it increases the fear of others.
What was Malice a god of? a god of malice seems a simple answer...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 18:41:16
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Poxed Plague Monk
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I think the gods draw power from not only the pursuit of their aspects, but also from the fear of their aspects.
Khorne: Bloodshed, violence, hatred. Gains power from people committing violent or hateful acts. Also gains power from those that fear violence or fear being hated.
Tzeentch: Change primarily; also ambition, etc. Gains power from the pursuit of change in all forms, especially magical. Also gains power from those that fear change.
Nurgle: Death as a state, disease, famine, pestilence, etc. Gains power from that stuff and from those that fear his domains.
Slaanesh: Pleasure and Vanity. Gains power from those that seek pleasure and are vain. Also gains power from those that fear experiencing pleasure or fear being 'self-confident/vain'.
But yeah, generally Nurgle is the one that feeds off fear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 19:34:50
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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The Conquerer
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There are more then just the 4 main gods of Chaos.
there are also many minor gods.
i disagree that the gods also feed off the fear of their aspects because then there would be no reason for the Eldar to persue their spartan lifestyles to avoid the predations of Slannesh as the Eldar fear Slannesh more then anything else. every move the craftworld eldar make is done with the sole purpose of avoiding Slannesh.
Nurgle does feed off the fear of death. but only in the respect that that perticular fear draws followers to him.
Khorn doesn't feed off fear. he's just blood and more blood and skulls. if those who he is fighting simply cower in fear its still blood for the blood god. if those he is fighting don't cower in fear and fight to the last then its more blood for the blood god as some of his followers would have been killed. So Khorn probably prefers there to be no fear in his enemies as there will be blood, both their blood and that of his own followers.
Slannesh probably has nothing to do with fear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 21:34:42
Subject: Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Thrall Wizard of Tzeentch
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Malice was the god of Renegades. He was the god of snubbing everything else, even the other chaos powers. He is the middle finger of the warp.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 21:50:41
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 22:24:26
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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 Ok, the last two responses were funny and insightful in equal measure.
So if the chaos god of fear and horror manifested today, what would his name be? In keeping with the theme of the main chaos gods, perhaps Raagon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/16 23:57:19
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Enkedesh. He Who Lives In The Heart. The Chaos god of fear and creeping terror, as well as the slow loss of sanity. His symbol is a gray spiraling circle. His number is five.
He dwells within a shadowy realm where darkness reigns. After all, darkness IS the primordial fear. The closer to the center one goes, the darker it gets. Eventually, no light will push back the darkness, be it psychic, natural, or artificial. Any mortals who venture to his realm usually expect to be confronted by their worst fear, but this is not the way that Enkedesh operates. Instead, as the traveller moves closer and closer inwards, lesser fears of his begin to crop up, assaulting him from the darkness. He will be assaulted not by his worst fears, but instead by the things that he was unaware he truly feared.
Enkedesh prefers small, relatively weak demons in his service, who take the form of slender imps. These creatures are less effective as mainline combatans, and far more efficient at stealth, subterfuge, and ambush.
The heavy guns of his armies are the Undying. They are frail looking demons who posess moderate skill in combat. Their main powerhouse ability is their nigh invulnerability. They can survive lascannons, chainswords, and direct hits from orbital bombardments. These weapons do not bounce off the demon or leave it unphased, however. Each weapon will damage the creature as much as would be expected, only for it to rise and resume its attacks, much to the horror of its opponent.
He is depicted as a thin figure, dressed in funerary clothes of whatever culture is representing him. (Eldar, human, etc.) His face is always hooded, and it is only assumed that he is male. None know for sure. (Although some cultures refer to him as a female, this is not a case of both being true, as with Slaanesh, it is merely a case of the truth not being known.)
And no, none of this is canon, I just made it up from the top of my head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/17 00:59:32
Subject: Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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I was quite sure the c'tan fed of fear?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/17 00:59:35
Subject: Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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I was quite sure the c'tan fed of fear?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/17 03:19:08
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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The Conquerer
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Yes, the C'tan feed off fear.
it adds a particular taste to the essence of the victim too.
sort of like how meat is left to age in a cooler for a few days.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/17 03:20:57
Subject: Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think they all do. Nurgle from fear of death, khorne from fear of violence, tzeench from fear of uncertainty and slaanesh... well... slaanesh feeds off of an excess of ALL emotion, fear included.
Fear is so pervasive that basically anyone could draw from it. I could see them throwing on another god in the future, though, but that would require GW to actually do work to create fluff, something which they seem to have forgotten how to do a decade ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/17 17:19:17
Subject: Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Thrall Wizard of Tzeentch
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I would say the big four Chaos Gods do not feed off of fear directly. While fear is an emotion it is in such abundance and variety that it can't be garnered as sustanence for them. I imagine there are several lesser powers in the warp that might feed directly off of fear, but they are in such minority as to not affect the bigger picture.
Fear is more of a utility for the Chaos powers to use in their attempts at gaining whatever it is they crave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/17 23:01:07
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Hungry Little Ripper
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I think fear is just a tool to the chaos gods. Rulers have always used fear to gain an advantage over the weak.
"  but what is fear? fear is just the realization of the inevitability of death. So which chaos god is the god of death? there isn't really one so i'm thinking that no one god rules fear, but each god uses fear to his/her/it's advantage. Nurgle really plays off the fear game to gain followers, but if he "fed" off fear, he wouldn't release his followers from it. Khorne also removes fear. But Tzeentch and Slaanesh are a little more subtle... you never really know whats coming or who's going with them... slaanesh is a little more superficial so, if any of the gods fed off fear, it'd be Tzeentch. As a follower of Tzeentch, you would never know when you had outlived your purposes... Tzeentch is definitely my favorite god (fluff-wise)."
okay i'm off my box now....
Make this a poll:
Nurgle  , Tzeentch  , Slaanesh  , Khorne  , or other  (write in)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/17 23:09:02
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Mad Gyrocopter Pilot
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Nurgle though it isn't his main focus. Probably one/some of the myriad lesser warp entities not able to go toe to toe with the big boy daemons. And come to think of it. Dark Eldar love to torture and tease their victims before harvesting their souls as the terror and fear makes it delicious for them. Plus even the chaos gods have things they fear deep down. What feeds off that? Its a parasitic cycle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/18 01:22:48
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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A LOT of people here seem to want to throw fear to Nurgle simply because he is the god of death, reasoning that 'all fear is the fear of death'. I think any player of Deadlands or Cthulu could testify that there is a LOT of things worse than death. A lot. I think that Nurgle is the Chaos god of fear (only because Nitros14 says the Chaos Codex says so).
However, I think that a god of fear would be awesome, and that it has a lot more depth than, oh lets say, Khorne.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/18 02:14:20
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Lethal Lhamean
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Like lazurus requested, I made it a poll, A REAL poll so that donkey voters can have something to press too.
Jimsolo wrote:A LOT of people here seem to want to throw fear to Nurgle simply because he is the god of death, reasoning that 'all fear is the fear of death'. I think any player of Deadlands or Cthulu could testify that there is a LOT of things worse than death. A lot. I think that Nurgle is the Chaos god of fear (only because Nitros14 says the Chaos Codex says so).
However, I think that a god of fear would be awesome, and that it has a lot more depth than, oh lets say, Khorne.
I also think a god of fear would be awesome.. I also personally think that it would be the most powerful god due to the fact that everyone can fear..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/18 02:26:04
Subject: Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Seeing as the fear of death is the creation of the Nightbringer, none of them are probably in control of that domain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/18 04:08:13
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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As we are now counting hands, I voted other. Nurgle may be the god of fear (a la codex), but it doesn't seem to be an all encompassing fear, with terror and horror included. I'd like to think that their is another chaos god for that (and their must be, for all emotions are represented in the warp) and I'd imagine he is quite powerful as well since fear in the 41st millennium is so prevalent. Perhaps he remains hidden only because it strengthens him, since, like someone said, it is the unknown that we truly fear.
Besides, I believe his name is Enkedesh. (I liked Mr. Solo's fiction, ok?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/18 04:12:12
Subject: Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/18 04:17:42
Subject: Re:Which Chaos God feeds off fear?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jimsolo wrote:Enkedesh. He Who Lives In The Heart. The Chaos god of fear and creeping terror, as well as the slow loss of sanity. His symbol is a gray spiraling circle. His number is five.
He dwells within a shadowy realm where darkness reigns. After all, darkness IS the primordial fear. The closer to the center one goes, the darker it gets. Eventually, no light will push back the darkness, be it psychic, natural, or artificial. Any mortals who venture to his realm usually expect to be confronted by their worst fear, but this is not the way that Enkedesh operates. Instead, as the traveller moves closer and closer inwards, lesser fears of his begin to crop up, assaulting him from the darkness. He will be assaulted not by his worst fears, but instead by the things that he was unaware he truly feared.
Enkedesh prefers small, relatively weak demons in his service, who take the form of slender imps. These creatures are less effective as mainline combatans, and far more efficient at stealth, subterfuge, and ambush.
The heavy guns of his armies are the Undying. They are frail looking demons who posess moderate skill in combat. Their main powerhouse ability is their nigh invulnerability. They can survive lascannons, chainswords, and direct hits from orbital bombardments. These weapons do not bounce off the demon or leave it unphased, however. Each weapon will damage the creature as much as would be expected, only for it to rise and resume its attacks, much to the horror of its opponent.
He is depicted as a thin figure, dressed in funerary clothes of whatever culture is representing him. (Eldar, human, etc.) His face is always hooded, and it is only assumed that he is male. None know for sure. (Although some cultures refer to him as a female, this is not a case of both being true, as with Slaanesh, it is merely a case of the truth not being known.)
And no, none of this is canon, I just made it up from the top of my head.
Are you suggesting that this material has "a lot more depth" than the official GW background material about Khorne?
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