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Howdy,

I had a question that I could not seem to find an answer for in the BRB...

I had a game the other day against IG. He was doing what IG does best and spamming chimeras. However, when he was shooting, he would shoot the chimeras at 1 unit, and the guys inside at a different unit. Is this legal? I always thought the transport counted as part of the unit while embarked... thanks!

Zid wrote:Howdy,

I had a question that I could not seem to find an answer for in the BRB...

I had a game the other day against IG. He was doing what IG does best and spamming chimeras. However, when he was shooting, he would shoot the chimeras at 1 unit, and the guys inside at a different unit. Is this legal? I always thought the transport counted as part of the unit while embarked... thanks!

You're mistaken. The transport remains a separate unit from the passengers, and thus the two units can fire independently.

You are indeed mistaken.

They NEVER are the same unit. They always are two different units.

Gwar! wrote:You are indeed mistaken.

They NEVER are the same unit. They always are two different units.

Understood, so I played IG wrong all that time haha... thanks!

Also, if a squad fires from a Fire Point is the vehicle considered Open-Topped until their next shoothing phase? One guy thats been playing for awhile declared that it isn't, but it got me wondering. This guy has been wrong before, but being new I try to not impede on his all-mighty-wisdom LOL... So how does this scenario end up?

Burntbeard wrote:Also, if a squad fires from a Fire Point is the vehicle considered Open-Topped until their next shoothing phase? One guy thats been playing for awhile declared that it isn't, but it got me wondering. This guy has been wrong before, but being new I try to not impede on his all-mighty-wisdom LOL... So how does this scenario end up?

I have know idea where you got that idea. I've never seen anyone play it that way, but tell the truth i can't cite the rulebook (not on me) and i don't troll YMDC enough to have enough instant credibility, but i'm going to go with no, it doesn't become open topped.

Joetaco wrote:

Burntbeard wrote:Also, if a squad fires from a Fire Point is the vehicle considered Open-Topped until their next shoothing phase? One guy thats been playing for awhile declared that it isn't, but it got me wondering. This guy has been wrong before, but being new I try to not impede on his all-mighty-wisdom LOL... So how does this scenario end up?

I have know idea where you got that idea. I've never seen anyone play it that way, but tell the truth i can't cite the rulebook (not on me) and i don't troll YMDC enough to have enough instant credibility, but i'm going to go with no, it doesn't become open topped.

Old edition rule.

He probably got it from an old BRB or the Daemonhunter Codex. I don't know if it's in the Witch Hunters book..

Burntbeard wrote:Also, if a squad fires from a Fire Point is the vehicle considered Open-Topped until their next shoothing phase? One guy thats been playing for awhile declared that it isn't, but it got me wondering. This guy has been wrong before, but being new I try to not impede on his all-mighty-wisdom LOL... So how does this scenario end up?

That's how it worked in 4th edition, but the rule no longer exists in 5th.

I think one unit in Codex: Daemonhunters still does this (Rhino I think).

Bookwrack -nope, didnt work that way in 4th ed either.

Some old codexes have a rule that models in 4+ or less armour that shoot from a fire point make te vehicle open topped. DH/WH i believe have these - but it isnt a general rule.

It was a general rule. BRB p 64.

Still happens in the Daemonhunter rulebook.

LORDEATSALOT wrote:Still happens in the Daemonhunter rulebook.

Page number?

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

LORDEATSALOT wrote:Still happens in the Daemonhunter rulebook.

Page number?

Page 30, Transports. The Box at the top of the page just above the Chimera rules.

NidMaster40000 wrote:He probably got it from an old BRB or the Daemonhunter Codex. I don't know if it's in the Witch Hunters book..

Well I guess he was right then, because he plays Sisters of Battle... You would think when a new edition comes out that everything would be updated... not just some things, poor armies like: Dark Eldar, Sisters of Battle, Grey Knights etc...