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A quick question, if I may.
Is it possible to have a viable army for 'warmachine' which doesn't contain warjacks?
(I have yet to start playing, but I'm very interested in the idea of doing a khador infantry army, if possible.)

Warcasters are given what are called Warjack Points which they are required to
spend. So at the minimum you will have one 'jack.

Yea, but on avarage, units are actually superior in many ways to a standard warjack.

In hordes your main reason for warbeasts would be to get fury for your caster in a Unit heavy list.

I've seen good Skorne lists with only one beast.

Well, you don't have to spend your WJ points. It's just kind of silly not to, as you're otherwise playing about 4-7 points down, depending on caster. But yes, other than that, you're perfectly able to play an all-infantry list. A few 'casters even favor infantry-heavy armies, such as the Irusks or eVlad.

Really though, such a force isn't as effective as it used to be in MkI. The changes to power attacks, how Warjacks are destroyed, etc. have made it much easier for 'Jacks to take on large amounts of infantry, and the loss of Swordmaster and Flying Steel, along with the toning down of things like epic Vlad's feat, have made infantry less of a "must take" in MkII.

If you do go for an infantry swarm list with Khador, I'd personally look at the Winterguard as a potential core of your list. Without going to the theme lists, you've got some great firepower in the Infantry (15 man CRAs are rather stupidly brutal), and the Riflemen with Kovnik Joe are great at picking off infantry from a range. For melee punch, your options are split between IFPs for cheaper shieldwall CMAs or the Doom Reavers for stupidly powerful yet squishy elite beatsticks.

If you're interested in themed lists, the Sorschas both do great Winterguard swarms, although they both like 'Jack support as well. My personal favorite, however, is eButcher's doomreaver swarm. While you'll want a couple 'Jacks to take advantage of his Rage Drives, the look on your opponent's face when he sees 5 full units of Doom Reavers running across the field is just priceless.

Technically, you do. At least in the tournament scene you do.

You can't play in a game more than x points under, and Warjack Points add to
your total points, so you can't play in a tournament without using your warjack points.

So take a 35 point game and regular Kreoss. His army's cost is allowed to be 40
points because he has 5 WJ Points. Since you can't go 2 or three points under points
(I forget which), you have to use his WJ points to buy at least a 4 point 'jack.

I saw a lot of mark I armies consist of mostly infantry

djphranq wrote:I saw a lot of mark I armies consist of mostly infantry

Yep. It's the same in MK2, but you HAVE to spend WJ points.

Some of the new rules make infantry swarms much easier to deal with, just the new rules for sprays make taking down infantry much easier than it used to be.
I still feel the best lists are one's that use a solid mixed force, and a plan of what you want it to accomplish.

Could i get away with only taking the scrapjack, and the rest of my points spent entirely on infantry?

lokilokust wrote:Could i get away with only taking the scrapjack, and the rest of my points spent entirely on infantry?

I am going to say yes, because doesnt Old Witch just give 2 WJ points?

You are allowed to be 2 points off in tourneys usually

What's not to love of a random Bezerker?
It gets into melee without focus.
Any shots going there is not going at something more important to you.

And when it does get into combat, you can throw a focus on him to hopefully blow up...

Plus, the power attacks add so many tools for your disposal.