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what do you think, with all the controversy, blown calls, and generally close plays, do you think Fifa should adopt an instant replay system?? time it takes to use a challenge of sort added to stopage time?? what do you think??

They really should everyone in the football stage is calling out for it but they just simply refuse to do it.

It'll add seconds onto the game, and make it play better and fairer.

Basically all major sports should utilize this kind of technology in one way or another, especially in referee dependent ones like futbol and basketball. The past couple years the NBA have been implementing more replay rules due to controversial plays and errors in the past.

I've always like the NFL's system of "Challenges" where a team can use a timeout to review a play. The refs look at it, see if they were wrong/right or stuff that they missed, and then assess any penalties. If the team was right, they get another challenge.

In crunch time, crucial plays and referee calls should be automatically reviewed without the use of a challenge.

Not sure if futbol has a system like this already in place but its something I'd like for ref-impacting sports. Refs are human after all. Maybe they can give coaches some kind of colored card for challenges, etc.

At Wimbledon they also have a "challenges" system
I think it's ridiculous that a international multi-million pound sport doesn't utilise all the high tech equipment available.

The thing is football is a flowing game, unlike tennis or American football, so challenges and instant replays would hold up play.

A system for detecting automatically if the ball crosses the line sounds like a good idea though. They have something in tennis for the sidelines.

Nopey nope.

Certain incidents still won't be clear. You will have players hanging around for ages in the rain and the decision will still be incorrect.

Have seen rugger matches where they use video replays and refer it to the ref in the TV and they can still make the wrong call.

Certain decisions could go to TV as KK says, but overall let the game flow.


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and would you really want this

What if, there was a separate ref that watched the replays of things, the fifa refs already use headsets to communicate.... so communication shouldn't be an issue, and shouldn't waste too much time or interrupt the flow of the game.
And as i type this, Argentina was given a goal, that should've been called back to offsides, and the Refs couldn't get the call right even after talking to the assistant ref. The anouncers calling for instant replay.
For things like offsides/goals replay should be used.

hcordes wrote:And as i type this, Argentina was given a goal, that should've been called back to offsides, and the Refs couldn't get the call right even after talking to the assistant ref. The anouncers calling for instant replay.
For things like offsides/goals replay should be used.

Absolutely. This makes two major referee mistakes just today, not to count the past two weeks.

After Lampard's goal was ignored and Mexico got F@^*(% on an offsides call (and that's just today!) they'll have to do something. Nobody will watch the game anymore--Fifa is a joke of an organization.

Kilkrazy wrote:

A system for detecting automatically if the ball crosses the line sounds like a good idea though.

There was a ball with a chip inside suggested but the FIFA didn't like it....

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:
and would you really want this

Classic disco, yes I do.

Much better than what on nowadays, it was fun, the artists could sing and most disco acts didnt take themselves seriously or have a humongous attitude common to the (c)rappers.

FIFA have already voted on the application of video replay, unsurprisingly voting against its usage.

Some football federation would be unable to pay for the technology or unwilling to pay at least.
If it was brought in you would then have the situation of some games being covered by it and not others.

How would you apply the technology? would sides dispute EVERY goal or offside decision? How would you appeal any offside rulings? As soon as an offside ruling was made the teams would have to declare their intent to query It would have to be in the back of teams minds during open play .

A chip in the ball sounds like a good idea though the cost probably outweighs the amount of incidents of goals where footballs do/don't cross the line. Again, who pays for the technology? FIFA? Football federations? Stadium owners? ball manufacturers?

The New Romance wrote:

hcordes wrote:And as i type this, Argentina was given a goal, that should've been called back to offsides, and the Refs couldn't get the call right even after talking to the assistant ref. The anouncers calling for instant replay.
For things like offsides/goals replay should be used.

Absolutely. This makes two major referee mistakes just today, not to count the past two weeks.

never mind the TWO goals by USA that got called back..... *sighs* but that all doesn't matter much now..... I think SOMETHING needs to be done for sure.

Mr. Burning wrote:

A chip in the ball sounds like a good idea

That would make the ball smarter than the whole of the England team put together!

Mr. Burning wrote:

Some football federation would be unable to pay for the technology or unwilling to pay at least.
If it was brought in you would then have the situation of some games being covered by it and not others.

Here's the thing, a Ref could easily watch TV and see probably everything that needs to be seen, the TV stations have the tech, they use it everyday. All fifa has to do is add a ref, another headset, and a portable TV, it might take a little time from the flow of the game, but not anymore than anyone taking a dive or just wasting time would in any other game.

FIFa are real stick in the muds, and part of the reason for this is the corruption of the organisation. Once you get monitoring on pitch it wont be long before there are calls for scrutiny off pitch.
This is what they truly fear.

TV replays for whether it crosses the line or not. If it blatantly did (like today) then it's a goal. If there's any doubt (e.g. player obscures the camera's view which I think happpened the other day), then no goal.

Not sure I'd use it for anything else (fouls etc), as this can be open to interpretation.

Actually, I would want to see it used to stop cheating, like when a player goes down writhing in agony despite being barely touched. Trying to get people sent off like this should be a straight red card.

Orlanth wrote:FIFa are real stick in the muds, and part of the reason for this is the corruption of the organisation. Once you get monitoring on pitch it wont be long before there are calls for scrutiny off pitch.
This is what they truly fear.

if Fifa needs an overhaul from the ground up.... then they did it to themselves as far as i am concerned. Eventually something is gonna give, and its gonna get ugly i am afraid.

They have to do it simply for the fairness of the most popular sport in the World. I fail to see much logic to not using it, I completely agree with Flashman. It would help prevent diving - the bane of football IMHO.

It's not a flowing game due to time-wasting and diving etc. the game would be stopped for a foul anyway, it's not slowing down the play much if at all and frankly it's worth it for the fairness it would introduce.

And as for Fifa's argument that they couldn't afford it, I personally believe that to be utter BS. hcordes has already stated a cheap way to do it, if they can pay Fabio Capello £6m a year (and what a job he's done) then they can afford a camera or to hire someone to look at a line.

Kilkrazy wrote:The thing is football is a flowing game, unlike tennis or American football, so challenges and instant replays would hold up play.

A system for detecting automatically if the ball crosses the line sounds like a good idea though. They have something in tennis for the sidelines.

Most of the balls in use at the world cup have the microchip in them but they refuse to use the technology.

From a public relations perspective, soccer will never take hold in the U.S. if it refuses to attempt to take on an air of legitimacy in regards to ensuring proper calls are being made.

A sport that has the appearance of being rigged and/or riddled with obviously blown calls in regards to goals (which are so few to begin with) is only hurting it's own growth and the respect it can ever hope to gain beyond the hardcore fans.

Some of the calls in this World Cup have been so blatantly wrong and game deciding that they make a farce of the event.

Refs who blow an obvious call as bad as say the England goal that was over the line by over thee feet should never be allowed to ref a pro soccer match again...

Disgraceful and mind numbing...

CT GAMER wrote:
A sport that has the appearance of being rigged and/or riddled with obviously blown calls in regards to goals (which are so few to begin with) is only hurting it's own growth and the respect it can ever hope to gain beyond the hardcore fans.

Then how do you explain the NBA?

CT GAMER wrote:

Some of the calls in this World Cup have been so blatantly wrong and game deciding that they make a farce of the event.

Refs who blow an obvious call as bad as say the England goal that was over the line by over thee feet should never be allowed to ref a pro soccer match again...

Disgraceful and mind numbing...

also lets add the "non-foul" foul that cost the USA a WINNING goal against Slovenia, and of course the very next match an opening goal against Algeria. I'd be more inclined to "let it go" as being byassed to my home country, but in most games i've watched, its been blown calls ALL OVER THE PLACE, and usually one team gets the better end of the majority messed up calls. Argentina fouled Mexico at least twice as much as Mexico to Argentina, but Mexico got called for twice the number Argentina did... and thats not even getting into the goal(S)

I think that many of the goal related problems could be done away with the simple addition of a goal judge.

dogma wrote:I think that many of the goal related problems could be done away with the simple addition of a goal judge.

and combine that with someone that can watch a replay for off-sides then i think they can go on their merry way lol

Part of the problem with installing a replay system in soccer is that there is no previously existential mechanism for restarting play after the consultation of a replay.

I think a challenge system could work well in that it would allow teams to force the review of plays which decided goals, but how do you deal with failed challenges? A goal kick perhaps? A free start from center for the challenged team?

dogma wrote:I think that many of the goal related problems could be done away with the simple addition of a goal judge.

This. Just put another official on the goal line - he'll be right there to witness any fouls, dives or balls crossing the line. Failing that, I think there should be a fifth official watching the play on a monitor. If he witnesses something he can draw the ref's attention to it instantly via means of an earpiece/mic combo - the game wouldn't have to stop.

dogma wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:
A sport that has the appearance of being rigged and/or riddled with obviously blown calls in regards to goals (which are so few to begin with) is only hurting it's own growth and the respect it can ever hope to gain beyond the hardcore fans.

Then how do you explain the NBA?

I'm not a basketball fan, so I can't really speak to it all that much though the amount of scoring that takes place in the NBA makes a comparison of the two moot. One or two fishy calls in an NBA game might have zero impact as both teams will score 40-50 times in a game.

In Soccer most games are decided by one goal and most games have less then four or five goals total scored in a match. Any blown call in soccer as far as if something is or isn't a goal has serious game altering ramifications...

Are people forgetting that Football is one of the most corrupt high level sports and video replays would put an end to this?

CT GAMER wrote:
A sport that has the appearance of being rigged and/or riddled with obviously blown calls in regards to goals (which are so few to begin with) is only hurting it's own growth and the respect it can ever hope to gain beyond the hardcore fans.
Some of the calls in this World Cup have been so blatantly wrong and game deciding that they make a farce of the event.
Refs who blow an obvious call as bad as say the England goal that was over the line by over thee feet should never be allowed to ref a pro soccer match again...
Disgraceful and mind numbing...

Sorry ^_^

CT GAMER wrote:
I'm not a basketball fan, so I can't really speak to it all that much though the amount of scoring that takes place in the NBA makes a comparison of the two moot. One or two fishy calls in an NBA game might have zero impact as both times will score 40-50 times in a game.

In Soccer most games are decided by one goal and most games have less then four or five goals total scored in a match. Any blown call in soccer as far as if something is or isn't a goal has serious game altering ramifications...

I was commenting on the extent to which professional basketball, which continues to be marred by corruption allegations, is a very popular sport in the United States.

As far as game altering ramifications: it doesn't take much for a basketball official to foul out a star player, or issue technical fouls. Of course, there is an appeals process in NBA basketball, so it isn't a perfect analog, but I think it does significantly undermine the notion that corruption will prevent a sport from becoming popular. To some extent, soccer itself provides it own case founded on the obvious surge in popularity the sport has seen in recent years.