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http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/06/29/china.rent.white.people/index.html
Chinese companies 'rent' white foreigners
Beijing, China (CNN) -- In China, white people can be rented.

For a day, a weekend, a week, up to even a month or two, Chinese companies are willing to pay high prices for fair-faced foreigners to join them as fake employees or business partners.

Some call it "White Guy Window Dressing." To others, it's known as the "White Guy in a Tie" events, "The Token White Guy Gig," or, simply, a "Face Job."

And it is, essentially, all about the age-old Chinese concept of face. To have a few foreigners hanging around means a company has prestige, money and the increasingly crucial connections -- real or not -- to businesses abroad.

"Face, we say in China, is more important than life itself," said Zhang Haihua, author of "Think Like Chinese." "Because Western countries are so developed, people think they are more well off, so people think that if a company can hire foreigners, it must have a lot of money and have very important connections overseas. So when they really want to impress someone, they may roll out a foreigner."

Or rent one.

Last year, Jonathan Zatkin, an American actor who lives in Beijing, posed as the vice president of an Italian jewelry company that had, allegedly, been in a partnership with a Chinese jewelry chain for a decade.

When is being foreign a career advantage?

Zatkin was paid 2,000 yuan (about $300) to fly, along with a couple of Russian models, to a small city in the central province of Henan where he delivered a speech for the grand opening ceremony of a jewelry store there.
They have not told me what my name is today. I think it is Lawrence or something

"I was up on stage with the mayor of the town, and I made a speech about how wonderful it was to work with the company for 10 years and how we were so proud of all of the work they had done for us in China," Zatkin said. "They put up a big bandstand and the whole town was there and some other local muckety-mucks."

The requirements for these jobs are simple. 1. Be white. 2. Do not speak any Chinese, or really speak at all, unless asked. 3. Pretend like you just got off of an airplane yesterday.

Those who go for such gigs tend to be unemployed actors or models, part-time English teachers or other expats looking to earn a few extra bucks. Often they are jobs at a second- or third-tier city, where the presence of pale-faced foreigners is needed to impress local officials, secure a contract or simply to fulfill a claim of being international.

"Occasionally companies want a foreign face to go to meetings and conferences or to go to dinners and lunches and smile at the clients and shake people's hands," read an ad posted by a company called Rent A Laowai (Chinese for "foreigner") on the online classified site thebeijinger.com.

It continued: "There are job opportunities for girls who are pretty and for men who can look good in a suit."

People like Brad Smith. When Smith -- the nom de plume of the Beijing-based American actor -- answered CNN's phone call on a recent morning, he was standing outside a meeting room at a Ramada Inn in Hangzhou, a city about 100 miles outside of Shanghai. Today's job: Pretend to be an architect from New York and give design plans for a new museum to local officials.

"They have not told me what my name is today. I think it is Lawrence or something," said Smith -- unlike some jobs, no fake business cards were given to hand out.

Earlier that morning he went over his script with his Chinese "business partners" at a Kentucky Fried Chicken. "It says, 'Good morning distinguished leaders. It is my privilege to participate in this program'," said Smith, who asked that his real name not be used for fear it could jeopardize future jobs.

If Smith is asked a question, he is told to pretend to answer as his "translator" pretends to understand.

Occasionally, these jobs can go awry. Smith said 18 months ago Beijing police showed up at his apartment after a financial company he worked at for a couple of months in Xi'an, a city in western China, allegedly swindled millions of yuan out of clients.

"That company said I was the guy in charge," he said. "I didn't even remember the company's name. After that, I decided I was never going to use my passport again with these fake companies. The small gigs are much less dangerous." Sometimes companies will hire Caucasians simply to sit in the office a few hours a day near the window where clients and customers can see them.

White women are also a hot commodity, sometimes to pose as phony foreign girlfriends, or, in the case of Vicky Mohieddeen, to pretend to be an oil tycoon.

Mohieddeen, who is Scottish, took a job in 2008 to attend what she describes as some sort of "oil drilling conference" in Shandong province for 300 yuan ($44). Several busloads of foreigners, with nationalities ranging from Pakistani to Nigerian, were trucked to the event, she said. They were greeted by brass bands and feted with a sumptuous dinner.

"I was like, 'Yeah, we have a lot of oil in Scotland.' I didn't know what to say. It was a bit nerve-racking. We were guests of honor of the vice mayor. We were put in a nice hotel. It was quite fancy."

For Mohieddeen, who had just arrived in Beijing at the time, the experience, albeit bizarre, was an introduction to a side of China most foreigners will never see.

"It is part of what China is all about, you know," Mohieddeen said. "There is quite an elaborate fantasy world going on here where if everyone buys into it, it does not matter if it is the truth. Those kinds of experiences give me a fuller understanding of the way the culture works."

Gentlemen here's your chance. Always wanted an asian gf and a cushy job? Get your ass to China and get paid to be white. You don't even have to speak whatever Chinese people speak.
   
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Bryan Ansell





Birmingham, UK

I'm sure I can juggle family life, a new job and jetting off to china to be a dubious face for a Chinese sweatshop.
   
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Apparently being a fake white business professional doesn't pay very well.

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ShumaGorath wrote:Apparently being a fake white business professional doesn't pay very well.


whitey sweatshops.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Eternal Plague

Wow..this is the best job ever...

   
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges




United States

China will be the new Byzantium.

Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. 
   
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos






Sounds like my daily job here. Rock up in your board shorts and Zeppelin shirt, ask some kids how they are, ask about some favourite colours, go home. The Russian models and flight stuff is a bit far-fetched. There should be something about nursing a hangover in the article too.
   
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Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

ShumaGorath wrote:Apparently being a fake white business professional doesn't pay very well.


It doesn't pay as well as being a real white business professional.

The whole thing sounds like a kind of fraud, really. I can't believe the Chinese are taken in by such impostures, it's probably just a fashion thing, like white wedding vicars in Japan.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
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Manchester UK

$300 is not enough to make me want to go to China, even for a holiday. It would have to be ten times that amount to even tempt me.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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United States

I like China.

Well, I like Hong Kong, but that's not really China.

They tore down the Walled City!

Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. 
   
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Lethal Lhamean






I can't believe people will act fraudulently for so little money.

Damn. They're stupid.
   
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Otiose in a Niche






Hyderabad, India

Kilkrazy wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:Apparently being a fake white business professional doesn't pay very well.


It doesn't pay as well as being a real white business professional.

The whole thing sounds like a kind of fraud, really. I can't believe the Chinese are taken in by such impostures, it's probably just a fashion thing, like white wedding vicars in Japan.


It's probably more fun than being a real white professional in China.

 
   
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





It’s a pretty good indicator of how people in China and the developing world view the West. We’ve managed to fixate on our weaknesses so much we’ve lost track of how rich we are compared to places like China. There’s also a whole lot of history of us being even richer still.

Walking around China it’s amazing how much of a novelty being white still is.


Albatross wrote:$300 is not enough to make me want to go to China, even for a holiday. It would have to be ten times that amount to even tempt me.


It’s a pretty cool place to visit.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





White-washing?
   
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Privateer





The paint dungeon, Arizona

Sounds like some of those gigs would have some pretty good food too. And that might not be alot of $$ here, but in china its a pretty penny. Be a good way to pay for an extended vacation at any rate.

Then, come back to the US, and write a book about how to be a buisness expert in china
   
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant






Thank you Avantgarde you've just found my perfect career.

Ok $300 isn't a lot but getting paid to talk to models, fly around and read a speech sounds good. I get all the benefits of being a rich businessman without any of stress.

Plus I am already qualified.



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Lethal Lhamean






4M2A wrote:Thank you Avantgarde you've just found my perfect career.

Ok $300 isn't a lot but getting paid to talk to models, fly around and read a speech sounds good. I get all the benefits of being a rich businessman without any of stress.

Plus I am already qualified.


Till you get arrested like the guy the article is about. That jobs is tricking most likely poor people out of their money. Might as well hustle old ladies for their pension. Sad man.
   
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I think the sarcasm was lost over the internet. Maybe my fault for leaving out the orkmoticons



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For any requests. 
   
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Fixture of Dakka




Manchester UK

sebster wrote:
Albatross wrote:$300 is not enough to make me want to go to China, even for a holiday. It would have to be ten times that amount to even tempt me.


It’s a pretty cool place to visit.


I'm sure Iran, Burma, Turkmenistan and North Korea are also cool places to visit. Countries with awful human rights records tend to have interesting architecture.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Burtucky, Michigan

$300 a week isnt a whole lot, BUT if you do that gig a couple times a week, now your talking about some decent spending cash. Not to mention how hard would it be to just look white, and then say yea Im the owner of whatever and then smile and shake hands for a day or so. Really? Sign me up, Im good at being white
   
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Albatross wrote:
sebster wrote:
Albatross wrote:$300 is not enough to make me want to go to China, even for a holiday. It would have to be ten times that amount to even tempt me.


It’s a pretty cool place to visit.


I'm sure Iran, Burma, Turkmenistan and North Korea are also cool places to visit. Countries with awful human rights records tend to have interesting architecture.


Classy! How are those Iraqi detainees you guys recently beat up?

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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought





UK

ShumaGorath wrote:
Albatross wrote:
sebster wrote:
Albatross wrote:$300 is not enough to make me want to go to China, even for a holiday. It would have to be ten times that amount to even tempt me.


It’s a pretty cool place to visit.


I'm sure Iran, Burma, Turkmenistan and North Korea are also cool places to visit. Countries with awful human rights records tend to have interesting architecture.


Classy! How are those Iraqi detainees you guys recently beat up?


Shuma our armed forces have a good reputation with regards to treatment of prisoners. There is a big storm at the moment due to the fact that they think our SF may haave been "complicit" with regards to you guys doing some torturing. Sure it happens occasionally, but its rare. As always you attack the British happily while being in total ignorance of your ow....

Although, no, wait a second, your not ignorant, you read bbc news, you know the US has had just as many (probably far more) scandals with regards to human rights and the mistreatment of POWs.. wait... hang on a second...

are you.... No! You cant be just trolling surely?! Not my eternally polite, well mannered old pal Shuma!

We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.  
   
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mattyrm wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
Albatross wrote:
sebster wrote:
Albatross wrote:$300 is not enough to make me want to go to China, even for a holiday. It would have to be ten times that amount to even tempt me.


It’s a pretty cool place to visit.


I'm sure Iran, Burma, Turkmenistan and North Korea are also cool places to visit. Countries with awful human rights records tend to have interesting architecture.


Classy! How are those Iraqi detainees you guys recently beat up?


Shuma our armed forces have a good reputation with regards to treatment of prisoners. There is a big storm at the moment due to the fact that they think our SF may haave been "complicit" with regards to you guys doing some torturing. Sure it happens occasionally, but its rare. As always you attack the British happily while being in total ignorance of your ow....

Although, no, wait a second, your not ignorant, you read bbc news, you know the US has had just as many (probably far more) scandals with regards to human rights and the mistreatment of POWs.. wait... hang on a second...

are you.... No! You cant be just trolling surely?! Not my eternally polite, well mannered old pal Shuma!


Trolling? Why I never! I was being totally serious in my response to Albatrosses love of totalitarian architecture!

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Manchester UK

ShumaGorath wrote:
Albatross wrote:
sebster wrote:
Albatross wrote:$300 is not enough to make me want to go to China, even for a holiday. It would have to be ten times that amount to even tempt me.


It’s a pretty cool place to visit.


I'm sure Iran, Burma, Turkmenistan and North Korea are also cool places to visit. Countries with awful human rights records tend to have interesting architecture.


Classy! How are those Iraqi detainees you guys recently beat up?


Who, me? I didn't beat up anyone.

My point is that, 'cool' place or not, I would not feel comfortable going to a country that had so little regard for it's citizens' human rights - I was being snide with my statement.

But you knew that.

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 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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China does have some pretty great architecture though.

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UK

Yeah i am going on an architectural sight seeing tour there next year mate.

The apple factory, a nike sweatshop, and a wonderful 20th century alternative chinese medicine farm.

Its got a Rhino grinder and everything!

We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.  
   
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mattyrm wrote:Yeah i am going on an architectural sight seeing tour there next year mate.

The apple factory, a nike sweatshop, and a wonderful 20th century alternative chinese medicine farm.

Its got a Rhino grinder and everything!




It's better than what you're used too.

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UK

lol. Where is that? Afghanistan or Middlesbrough?

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mattyrm wrote:lol. Where is that? Afghanistan or Middlesbrough?


I thought Middlesbrough was in afghanistan?

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Albatross wrote:I'm sure Iran, Burma, Turkmenistan and North Korea are also cool places to visit. Countries with awful human rights records tend to have interesting architecture.


Funny thing is, it isn’t until you go there that you start to learn a country is more than the stories you see on the BBC. I honestly thought going to China I would somehow see people oppressed by their government, but it isn’t like that. Having had my perceptions changed it drove me to read more, and actually understand how totalitarian states work. I’ve got a much less simplistic view of non-democratic countries now, because I was willing to travel.

Human rights in China are important, and we should all support pro-Democracy movements in China to whatever extent we’re capable. Shunning the country doesn’t help that at all.

But hey, it’s up to you.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
 
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