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I have noticed the explanation for certain invulnerable saves seem kind of interesting explained, such as the Swarmlord getting one for being really good at parrying, or Asurmen getting one because he is forced to live in unending war. I was curious if anyone knows any other weird ones.

Ragnar can just dodge attacks. Same with... wyches?

Yeah, and I think that is the same for imperial assassins too actually.

Don't forget Helions and their 5+ "jink" save!

All Terminators get a 5++ save because there is supposedly a splinter out of the Space Emporer's gold armour in their shoulder pad cross.

SM Captains can get a 4++ save from wearing an "Adamantium cloak". A material so rigid it is normally used for the hulls of heavy vehicles like Land Raiders. (Which don't get an invulnerable save.)

Tyranid Zoanthropes get a 3++ save from thinking about it.

Kilkrazy wrote:SM Captains can get a 4++ save from wearing an "Adamantium cloak". A material so rigid it is normally used for the hulls of heavy vehicles like Land Raiders. (Which don't get an invulnerable save.)

Wrong. The Admantine Mantle grants immunity to Instant Death. The 4++ comes from the Iron Halo, which in itself is a ring shaped piece of gold...

What about Yarricks old force field rules, that gak must have been made out eldrads pubic hair, Tzeentches feathers, and dan abnett's writing.

Valkyrie wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:SM Captains can get a 4++ save from wearing an "Adamantium cloak". A material so rigid it is normally used for the hulls of heavy vehicles like Land Raiders. (Which don't get an invulnerable save.)

Wrong. The Admantine Mantle grants immunity to Instant Death. The 4++ comes from the Iron Halo, which in itself is a ring shaped piece of gold...

It's a very similar thing.

I like the idea of a gold ring-piece.

Kilkrazy wrote:All Terminators get a 5++ save because there is supposedly a splinter out of the Space Emporer's gold armour in their shoulder pad cross.

I think they wrote somewhere that terminator armor is so massive that almost no weapons can fully bypass the armor, thus you get your 2+ armor save, and your 5+ my armor is INVULNERABLE save. the armor is just too thick.

Chaplains and their broken force-fields. How dare they...

Kilkrazy wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:SM Captains can get a 4++ save from wearing an "Adamantium cloak". A material so rigid it is normally used for the hulls of heavy vehicles like Land Raiders. (Which don't get an invulnerable save.)

Wrong. The Admantine Mantle grants immunity to Instant Death. The 4++ comes from the Iron Halo, which in itself is a ring shaped piece of gold...

It's a very similar thing.

I like the idea of a gold ring-piece.

Iron Halos actually contain a force field.

The halo is just the piece that actually generates it.

Captain Idaeus wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:All Terminators get a 5++ save because there is supposedly a splinter out of the Space Emporer's gold armour in their shoulder pad cross.

I think they wrote somewhere that terminator armor is so massive that almost no weapons can fully bypass the armor, thus you get your 2+ armor save, and your 5+ my armor is INVULNERABLE save. the armor is just too thick.

Do you disbelieve in the power of bits of the Space Emporer's gold armour?

Kilkrazy wrote:

Captain Idaeus wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:All Terminators get a 5++ save because there is supposedly a splinter out of the Space Emporer's gold armour in their shoulder pad cross.

I think they wrote somewhere that terminator armor is so massive that almost no weapons can fully bypass the armor, thus you get your 2+ armor save, and your 5+ my armor is INVULNERABLE save. the armor is just too thick.

Do you disbelieve in the power of bits of the Space Emporer's gold armour?

Kinda sortof, it would have to be a tiny-ass fragment if they really did incorporate it into the Crux Terminatus.

Ennkay wrote:What about Yarricks old force field rules, that gak must have been made out eldrads pubic hair, Tzeentches feathers, and dan abnett's writing.

You got it close - Yarrick's powers come from eldrad's feathers, tzeench's writing, and dan abnett's pubic hairs.

A vast majority of ++ saves come from force field generators (including everything in the imperium that gets a ++ save), or from force-field-esque psychic abilities/equipment.

I'm actually kind of surprised that there are ANY invuls that don't fit into the above.

What about the one where a group of enemies in front of you can some how convince your troops not to shoot at the other group of enemies behind them? In other words the intervening models rule. Where as anyone with half a brain would just shoot through one squad into the other.

Black Templars can get an invulerable save from believing in the emperor or something .ie that ability where they get a 6+ invuln but cant use cover

Ailaros wrote:

Ennkay wrote:What about Yarricks old force field rules, that gak must have been made out eldrads pubic hair, Tzeentches feathers, and dan abnett's writing.

You got it close - Yarrick's powers come from eldrad's feathers, tzeench's writing, and dan abnett's pubic hairs.

A vast majority of ++ saves come from force field generators (including everything in the imperium that gets a ++ save), or from force-field-esque psychic abilities/equipment.

I'm actually kind of surprised that there are ANY invuls that don't fit into the above.

that was the idea of this thread, when I normally think of invulnerable saves, it's force fields and magic daemon powers, but some are a bit sillier

Captain Idaeus wrote:Black Templars can get an invulerable save from believing in the emperor or something .ie that ability where they get a 6+ invuln but cant use cover

So can SOB with faith I think...

Captain Idaeus wrote:Black Templars can get an invulerable save from believing in the emperor or something .ie that ability where they get a 6+ invuln but cant use cover

any custom marines could back in 3rd with some trait, uphold the honor of the emperor, iirc

Snikkyd wrote:

Captain Idaeus wrote:Black Templars can get an invulerable save from believing in the emperor or something .ie that ability where they get a 6+ invuln but cant use cover

So can SOB with faith I think...

its something like spending a faith point to have armour saves count as invo for that turn

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

Captain Idaeus wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:All Terminators get a 5++ save because there is supposedly a splinter out of the Space Emporer's gold armour in their shoulder pad cross.

I think they wrote somewhere that terminator armor is so massive that almost no weapons can fully bypass the armor, thus you get your 2+ armor save, and your 5+ my armor is INVULNERABLE save. the armor is just too thick.

Do you disbelieve in the power of bits of the Space Emporer's gold armour?

Kinda sortof, it would have to be a tiny-ass fragment if they really did incorporate it into the Crux Terminatus.

Actually only the Crux of captains contains a fragment (well... is "said to contain").

The 5++ either comes from the extra plasteel covering the ceramite or (I believe I have read somewhere...) a force field (albeit a fairly "weak" one) built into the armor.

Ailaros wrote:

Ennkay wrote:What about Yarricks old force field rules, that gak must have been made out eldrads pubic hair, Tzeentches feathers, and dan abnett's writing.

You got it close - Yarrick's powers come from eldrad's feathers, tzeench's writing, and dan abnett's pubic hairs.

A vast majority of ++ saves come from force field generators (including everything in the imperium that gets a ++ save), or from force-field-esque psychic abilities/equipment.

I'm actually kind of surprised that there are ANY invuls that don't fit into the above.

I laughed at this, Dan Abnett must have some pretty rough pubes

Ailaros wrote:

Ennkay wrote:What about Yarricks old force field rules, that gak must have been made out eldrads pubic hair, Tzeentches feathers, and dan abnett's writing.

You got it close - Yarrick's powers come from eldrad's feathers, tzeench's writing, and dan abnett's pubic hairs.

A vast majority of ++ saves come from force field generators (including everything in the imperium that gets a ++ save), or from force-field-esque psychic abilities/equipment.

I'm actually kind of surprised that there are ANY invuls that don't fit into the above.

well I mean eldrad is a dick

Ennkay wrote:

Ailaros wrote:

Ennkay wrote:What about Yarricks old force field rules, that gak must have been made out eldrads pubic hair, Tzeentches feathers, and dan abnett's writing.

You got it close - Yarrick's powers come from eldrad's feathers, tzeench's writing, and dan abnett's pubic hairs.

A vast majority of ++ saves come from force field generators (including everything in the imperium that gets a ++ save), or from force-field-esque psychic abilities/equipment.

I'm actually kind of surprised that there are ANY invuls that don't fit into the above.

well I mean eldrad is a dick

At least Kharn is a pretty fun guy to be around.

Snikkyd wrote:

Captain Idaeus wrote:Black Templars can get an invulerable save from believing in the emperor or something .ie that ability where they get a 6+ invuln but cant use cover

So can SOB with faith I think...

Thinking about it, the SOB acts of faith are really quite odd... They aren't psychic, and they are spawned from faith... Whats going on there?

Ailaros wrote:

Ennkay wrote:What about Yarricks old force field rules, that gak must have been made out eldrads pubic hair, Tzeentches feathers, and dan abnett's writing.

You got it close - Yarrick's powers come from eldrad's feathers, tzeench's writing, and dan abnett's pubic hairs.

Sigged.

As I recall, way back when Harlequins had an Invulnerable save because they used belts which made them used some kind of holotechnology to displace where their image, making them appear to be elsewhere.

ryanjh wrote:Yeah, and I think that is the same for imperial assassins too actually.

Yeah, I miss the Assassin's Dodge Save... Back in 2nd edition, if the Assassin was hit by an area effect weapon, like a Vortex Grenade, you had to roll for scatter, to see if they successfully dodged in the right direction, or into the blast...

Displacer Fields (3+ save, with a D6" scatter in a random direction) were fun for that, too.

CrazyThang wrote:The 5++ either comes from the extra plasteel covering the ceramite or (I believe I have read somewhere...) a force field (albeit a fairly "weak" one) built into the armor.

Yeah, I mean, imperial guard commanders get a 5++ from the weak-ass force field that they all carry around. I don't see why the 5++ of a space marine would be any different.

Becuase obviously the Space Marine pouldrons enhance the force field?