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Came up with some house rules for beamy deff guns for lootas.

Str____AP____Range____Special Rules____Type
D6+4__3 ___48"_______"Gets Hot"_______Heavy 1

So what does everyone think?

Seems OK. Gets hot will result in a whole lot of dead lootas but they can kill marines a little better.

Think I should make it AP 2 instead? Compensates for gets hot better.

I'd drop gets hot and make it cost like 35-40 points. But that's just me.

*chuckles* You're making a blending between Flashgitz and zzapp gunz

With crappy armour and BS2, 'gets hot' doesn't really work for orks unless you can access FNP.

With the rules above, assuming you roll St6 or more for the shot and the marine is in the open, you've got a 5/18 chance of killing the marine, and a 5/36 chance of killing yourself. So for every two kills you inflict on the marines you'll suffer 1 to your own guys.

If the marine has a 4+ save, which is pretty likely, then the odds of killing a marine are exactly the same as killing yourself.

sebster wrote:If the marine has a 4+ save, which is pretty likely, then the odds of killing a marine are exactly the same as killing yourself.

Very orky, but a bit unbalanced, to my mind.

I'd bump the guns to AP 2 and make it a high-risk, high-reward kind of a deal or give them a special rule that lets you re-roll some "gets hot" rolls, just to give them a fighting chance.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/293525.page#1551898

Use the search function.

I think if it's AP 2, that gives it even more of a reason to be Gets Hot.

That's popping terminator armor afterall.

MekanobSamael wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/293525.page#1551898

Use the search function.

That thread hasn't had a post in over a month, I'm not grave digging and my idea is different anyway.

What if they only "got hot" on a roll of 1 to determine the strength?

I like it. Maybe a 5 Point per model upgrade on Lootas.