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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

I usually use Dullcote, but it essentially removes all of the weathering effects. I tried looking for Mig Pigment Fixer (?) but I can't find a place to buy that.

Note, any product that works well for this purpose is fine. It just cannot screw up the dullcote, since apparently the order is to finish the model, dullcote it, weather it, and then fix it with... whatever.

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You can get it from the UK here: http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/gbu0-prodshow/migp249.html

The usual order is as you've described, seal the model first with a varnish then add the weathering effects and then use the seal. That's what they recommend on the MIG tutorial DVD. I've used it on some bases that I've weathered up and some does still rub off though a lot less than without a seal so it might be necessary to use it a couple of times to get it really fixed solidly.

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What do you define as a varnish?

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From what I've learned about military modelling at various stages they will apply a varnish to the model to seal the layers below and avoid making any changes to them. This is commonly done before applying oils or pigments for various effects. I would have thought dullcote would work fine for this but you might want a more expert opinion.

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I use heavily diluted PVA applied with a syringe it seems to work fine.

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Here you go
http://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/pigments-pigment-fixer-p-11439.html in the UK
http://store.spruebrothers.com/mig-productions-pigment-fixer-75ml-p249-p13055.aspx?utm_medium=cse&utm_source=googlebase in the US

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Does the dullcoat just dissolve the pigment? I was going to start using them later this year on my new guard army.
   
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I set my weathering powders with rubbing alcohol (soak a brush and gently touch to the model - capillary action will soak everything without needing to drag the brush across every surface and smearing your powder placement) and they stay put pretty well. Takes a bit of rubbing to move them after an alcohol wash, actually. More than stable enough to spray varnish over, if that's your plan. If you really want the texture of the powders to stand out, you can't really varnish over them. In this case, alcohol would work just fine for a display model, but a gaming piece might get some rubbed off.

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Oadie has it. From all I have read over the years, this is what most military modelers seem to do. Capillary action with rubbing alcohol. They will rub off over time in regards to heavy gaming, but you can touch them up easily enough and if you use a gloss coat followed by a dullcote, they tend to hold better.

Also, one reason spray-on Dullcote is bad for powders is that it blows off a lot of it! That is why the alcohol works well, because it seals it in place. also, Dullcote will still tend to weaken the overall punch, so I would go heavy on powders, knowing they will be more subtle on the finished product.

   
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Thanks for the tips, guys, will try this tonight.

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