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When I use a Failsafe Detonator on a dreadnought does it go down to half damage because of the hole not being over the dreadnought?

the weasel king wrote:When I use a Failsafe Detonator on a dreadnought does it go down to half damage because of the hole not being over the dreadnought?

Yes.

No.

Maybe.

It's an Old Codex and it isn't written with 5th edition in mind, so it is unclear. Clear it up pre game.

...I don't see why not. It seems to be a blast weapon...uses a blast template.

VoxDei wrote:...I don't see why not. It seems to be a blast weapon...uses a blast template.

The reason he says damage is halved is because the center hole is not over his dreadnought (which counts as a vehicle) and I guess the brb says that if the hole isn't over the vehicle the strength is halved...

the weasel king wrote:

VoxDei wrote:...I don't see why not. It seems to be a blast weapon...uses a blast template.

The reason he says damage is halved is because the center hole is not over his dreadnought (which counts as a vehicle) and I guess the brb says that if the hole isn't over the vehicle the strength is halved...

For "blast" and "template" weapons which the failsafe detonator isn't. It is simply a str 8 AP - hit.

zeshin wrote:For "blast" and "template" weapons which the failsafe detonator isn't. It is simply a str 8 AP - hit.

He says no because its anything under a large "blast" "template"...I agree with you, I just need to convince him...

Oh come on, the failsafe detonator is one of the least reliable, gimmicky things in a codex full of unreliable gimmicks. The blast template defines its radius, it's not an ordinance weapon or something.

Tell your friend that he's being a jerk.

RisingPhoenix wrote:Oh come on, the failsafe detonator is one of the least reliable, gimmicky things in a codex full of unreliable gimmicks. The blast template defines its radius, it's not an ordinance weapon or something.

Tell your friend that he's being a jerk.

I agree with this one.

KingCracker wrote:

RisingPhoenix wrote:Oh come on, the failsafe detonator is one of the least reliable, gimmicky things in a codex full of unreliable gimmicks. The blast template defines its radius, it's not an ordinance weapon or something.

Tell your friend that he's being a jerk.

I agree with this one.

Hey now, what's with all the hate? I actually just gave it to him at full strength because I was unsure of the ruling. However, I would be curious to see what other people thought. I agree with Gwar! that it's a little hazy. It seems to be following the same wording as most of the blast weapons pre-5th edition, so I tend to think that it should count as a blast or template weapon.

The Failsafe Is not a Blast weapon. It is a Piece of wargear that uses a Blast Marker to define it's area of effect. If it were a Blast weapon it would scatter and count as a Shooting attack.

I'm curious as to which codex has self destructing dreadnaughts

I'm curious as to which codex has self destructing dreadnaughts

None, the tau crisis suits do

Remember because it's ap - you have -1 to the damage chart, so if you only glance when whoope -3.

Better than nothing lol