grabba stick vs the grot prod

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**Shake Zoola**

Assembling my first unit of grots and Im curious as to how most people outfit their runtherders? Im not much of a fan of a 4+ poison weapon but i can see its use against MCs...the grabbin stick seems like the better option...what do allyall think?

**Snikkyd**

I'd just stick to the Grabbin stick. I doubt the prod will help you win combat.

**General_Chaos**

Grots vs. Trygon! Battle Royal!!! hmm... wonder whose gunna win this one!

**alanedomain**

If you're going to swamp MCs with Grots, you basically have two options:

Want to have a slight chance of actually killing the creature? Use the Grot Prods and hope the poison attacks work before he chews through all your Gretchin. Want to just hold the MC in place all game long, effectively killing it as it fights your worthless units? Use the Grabbin' Sticks and reduces its attacks so low that it can only kill off one of your 33 Grots each Assault Phase.

It's up to you which option is more awesome and will embarrass your opponent more.

**Shake Zoola**

what about a squig hound then? are those worth it?

**Redbeard**

I'm not sure the squig hound is an option, I think it's default equipment. If not, it's well worth the cost to re-roll your Ld versus shooting after you've gone to ground on an objective.

**Shake Zoola**

I dont have my codex on me right now...

if it is standard equipment then awesome! if not yeah id say its worth it...

**ThatEdGuy**

Grabba sticks are the way to go. Grots are there as a tar pit and anything that helps them survive longer is helpful.

**schadenfreude**

Grot Prod V MC.
Math hammer
Best case scenario is a WS3 TMC
Hits on a 3, wounds on a 4, 3+ armor save.
1/9 attacks will wound a WS3 TMC. If the WS is 4-7 then it takes 12 attacks to cause 1 wound.
Runtherd has 3 attacks so it takes 3 rounds of CC to cause 1 wound to a WS3 TMC, or 4 rounds to kill a WS4-7 MC
Against a WS3 TMC it would take a runtherd 18 rounds of CC to kill it, or about 9 game turns.

**labmouse42**

With grots, cheaper is better. They are objective holders or screens. The poisoned weapon won't matter for CC results

**FlatlanderBoss2.0**

You're assuming you lose the abilities of the grabba stick when you take a grot prod.

**Redbeard**

Well, since you replace the grabba stick with the grot prod, it's a fairly safe assumption that you no longer have it.

**Shake Zoola**

I was correct in going w a grabba stick then...

The urty syringe never impressed me and the grot prod just seems to be an urty syringe that i have to pay for...so yeah probably rarely if ever going to be utilized...

just wanted to see what the general consensus was out there...

Thanks boyz!