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Im reading the 4th edition Tau codex atm, and I realise that there are no longer target priority tests, but it doesnt make much sense of what actually happens.

1. Is it just the owner that can split fire from the rest of his squad?

2 .Can there be more than one owner per squad of a target lock?

3. Can an owner of target lock use it for his pals in his squad to do it to?

4. Can an owner of target lock split 2 of his weapons at different enemies...wait can Crysis Suits even fire 2 weapons?

Plz help :(

Generally these types of posts belong in YMDC, but for your questions...


1) yes

2) yes

3) no

4) no....and look up multi-trackers in the battlesuit wargear section.

Maelstrom808 wrote:Generally these types of posts belong in YMDC, but for your questions...


1) yes

2) yes

3) no

4) yes....and look up multi-trackers in the battlesuit wargear section.

Ok thanks

Just in case

say i have COMMANDER GENERIC

he has a ...plasma rifle and a flamer and multitracker.

He deepstrikes, lands within 2 of an ork squad, and theres a lone terminator standing next to them

He burns the orks and plasmas the terminator. right?

Another buncha questions (probably dumb) It says in the battlesuit wargear section "No model can pick the same item twice."
Then it says you must take 2 of the same weapon to twin link them

1. Do you
A) Put them on the same arm, and count them as a single choice?
B) Put them on opposite arms, count them as a single choice?
C) But them on opposite arms, counting them as 2 of the three weapon/support choices.
2. If you have them on different arms but you have a multitracker, can you instead of firing a twin linked plasma gun, fire a plasma gun at 2 different squads?

1. Whatever looks coolest to you
2. Don't think so don't have the codex to hand and I'm not really a Tau player, just like having all the books, but I think it has to be twin-linked, multi-tracker or no...

Target locks allow you to point guns at different enemies. If a target lock is on a Hammerhead, it can, for example, fire its burst cannons at one enemy unit and its railgun at another. If it's on a battlesuit, it can fire its missile pod at one enemy and its burst cannon at another (but you need a multitracker to be able to fire both weapons in one turn). If it's on an infantryman, that single infantryman can fire his weapon at a different unit than the rest of his own unit. So, say you have a unit of four pathfinders. Three have carbines/markerlights and one has a rail rifle/target lock. The first three all have to fire at the same target, but #4 can fire at a different target if he wants, or the same one, it's up to you.

As for TL battlesuit weapons, here's how it works.

Each battlesuit has three hardpoints. You fill each of those three with a weapon or a support system. If you use the same weapon twice (e.g. plasma rifle, plasma rifle, missile pod) the weapon used twice counts as twin-linked, and you pay for it with the twin-linked point cost instead of paying for each weapon separately. I suppose if you want to put the TL weapons on the same arm you can, nothing stopping you from doing it, but that means you're going to have two hardpoints open.

You can never take three of the same weapon.

To give you an example, this is what my Shas'O and his bodyguards look like:

Shas'O
Burst cannon
Missile pod
Shield generator

Shas'vre 1
Burst cannon
Burst cannon
Missile pod

Shas'vre 2
Plasma rifle
Plasma rifle
Missile pod

On the two Shas'vre, the burst cannon on #1 and the plasma rifles on #2 count as twin-linked and are not fired separately. The plasma rifles are each on separate arms, as are the burst cannons.

If I were to give any of them multi-trackers and/or target locks, those weapons would still be twin-linked.

Think of it this way:

When you have two of the same weapon on a battlesuit...
In terms of hardpoints, it's two weapons.
In terms of points cost, it's one and a half weapons (plasma rifle is 20 points, TL plasma rifle is 30 points)
In terms of firing, it's a single TL weapon.

Did that answer your questions?

Target Lock:
Yes, but you have to declare where your shots are going before you roll the dice; you can't shoot the flamer, decide you did enough damage to the orcs and then shoot the termie with the plasma rifle.

1. Modeling is up to you but however you model the weapons does not have an impact on the rules. (i.e. the broadside has a railgun on each shoulder but it is still just 1 weapon system).

2.The rules for twin-linked weapons are quite clear, you can not separate fire as it shoots as one weapon, redundancy allows you to reroll your misses each turn (one time).

It may be easier for you to just think of a twin-linked weapon as a single weapon system where one barrel is slaved to the other so no, you can't fire at different targets or do any other things your imagination may fancy other than re-roll your misses each turn (one time).

All mulit-tracking does is allow you to fire more than one weapon; as twin-linked weapons count as 1 weapon, you may not fire them twice.

**Edit: Ninja got me.

Rerolling always happens only one time. The rules specifically state that no die can be rerolled more than once under any circumstances.

OK guys, questions answered, thanks for th help, it is much appreciated.

Last question: Can a bodyguard take hardwired stuff? Can sergeants?

Who can take HW stuff? ( I assume hardwired does NOT take up one of the 3 choices of weapon?)

Jaon wrote:OK guys, questions answered, thanks for th help, it is much appreciated.

Last question: Can a bodyguard take hardwired stuff? Can sergeants?

Who can take HW stuff? ( I assume hardwired does NOT take up one of the 3 choices of weapon?)

Good question.

In each unit description it says what equipment they can take. If it says they can choose items from the "Battlesuit Wargear" list, that means they can take the hard-wired systems. That's why the Battlesuit (and Infantry) Armory is split into different parts, the last one being "wargear."

Shas'vre (battlesuit sergeants) can take wargear in regular battlesuit squads. So can bodyguards, who are also Shas'vre.

I don't have my codex in front of me, but I think that in regular battlesuit squads if you pay 5 points to upgrade one to a team leader instead of 10 to upgrade to Shas'vre, he can still take wargear.

Like I said, it's all in the "Characters" section of the unit description.

And no, hard-wired systems do not take one of the three available hardpoints, which is why hardwired multitrackers are SHEER JOY when you have one weapon and one twin-linked weapon on a battlesuit.

WAIT! doesnt that mean a tau commander can fairly take a twin linked flamer, a twin linked plasmarifle and a twin linked missile launcher with hard wired target lock and hard wired multitracker...? or does twin linking a weapon take up 2 choices?

EDIT: nvm, found where it says twin linked counts as 2, my bad.

Jaon wrote:WAIT! doesnt that mean a tau commander can fairly take a twin linked flamer, a twin linked plasmarifle and a twin linked missile launcher with hard wired target lock and hard wired multitracker...? or does twin linking a weapon take up 2 choices?

As I said, a TL weapon takes two choices.

aw, ninja'd b4 i could edit D:

Well, shank you very much SaintHazard, you've been really helpful, specially with the quick replies .

I'm sure ill see you round the forums later on.

Well its 12:30am on a school night, so i probably should go...

Glad to help. Got any more questions about Tau, don't hesitate to ask.

Jaon wrote:

4. Can an owner of target lock split 2 of his weapons at different enemies...wait can Crysis Suits even fire 2 weapons?

No, the owner of the target lock can not split 2 of his weapons to different enemies. He can only fire at a different target than his unit. If he has a multi tracker he may fire 2 weapons.

VoxDei wrote:

Jaon wrote:

4. Can an owner of target lock split 2 of his weapons at different enemies...wait can Crysis Suits even fire 2 weapons?

No, the owner of the target lock can not split 2 of his weapons to different enemies. He can only fire at a different target than his unit. If he has a multi tracker he may fire 2 weapons.

This is correct.

My mistake.

Ack...was still brewing my first cup of coffee in the morning...like others said, no you cannot split fire with two weapons on the same suit. Edited my previous post.

Well done Voxdei, you beat me to my attempted rant...

The exeption of course is shadowsun who has an advanced target lock that can fire two weapons at two different targets.