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2010/07/15 00:47:05
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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So I'm flipping through the new edition space marine codex and i started wondering how come the Ultramarines get so much love when other chapters like the imperial fists and Dark Angels only share a fraction of the fame. I was just wondering what everyone thinks on this subject
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2010/07/15 00:48:03
Subject: Re:Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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I have a simple answer to this question, read my signature and you will know.
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It is the 3rd Millennium. For more than a hundred months Games Workshop has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Nottingham. It is the foremost of wargames by the will of the neckbeards, and master of a million tabletops by the might of their inexhaustible wallets. It is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with business strategies from the early Industrial Revolution Age. It is the Carrion Lord of the wargaming scene for whom a thousand veteran players are sacrificed every day, so that it may never truly die. Yet even in its deathless state, GW continues its eternal vigilance. Mighty battleforce starter-sets cross the online-store-infested miasma of the internet, the only route between distant countries, their way lit by a draconian retail trade-agreement, the legal manifestation of the GW's will. Vast armies of lawyers give battle in GW's name on uncounted websites. Greatest amongst its soldiers are the Guardians of the IP, the Legal Team, bio-engineered super-donkey-caves. Their comrades in arms are legion: the writing team and countless untested rulebooks, the ever vigilant redshirts, and the writers of White Dwarf, to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from other games, their own incompetence, Based Chinaman - and worse. To support Games Workshop in such times is to spend untold billions. It is to support the cruelest and most dickish company imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of sales discounts and Warhammer Fantasy Battle, for so much has been dropped, never to be re-published again. Forget the promise of cheaper digital content and caring about the fanbase, for in the GW HQ there is only profit-seeking, Space Marines and Sigmarines. There is no fun amongst the hobby shops, only an eternity of raging and spending, and the laughter of former employees who left GW to join better companies. |
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2010/07/15 00:48:07
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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They are red, white and blue.....
They are the cover boys of the 40k universe. Everyone loves them (except Dakka Dakka Users, except if they are awesomely painted then we love them)
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2010/07/15 00:52:05
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Well yes i know that the Ultramarines are a very accomplished chapter but, i just feel like some other chapter with impressive records get left in the cold. I agree with everything ur signature said sub-zero and i do like the ultramarines but, it just seems to me they get too much attention. I'm not trying to make anyone mad or anything thats just how i feel.
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Imperial Crusaders: 7,500 points
“Brothers, what we do on the battlefield is not just for our chapter but, for the entire Imperium. Every Xenos that falls by our hands will be a testament to our unwavering duty to the Emperor. Every heretic that is crushed under our feet will be a testament to our undying loyalty to the citizens of Imperial Space. We will baptize ourselves in fire and emerge as the most steadfast defenders of humanity.” - qoute from my own homegrown chapter
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2010/07/15 00:54:23
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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You aren't getting anyone mad. I agree with you. I just hate their color scheme and that everyone uses them XD
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2010/07/15 01:00:45
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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I dont like their color sceme either.
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Imperial Crusaders: 7,500 points
“Brothers, what we do on the battlefield is not just for our chapter but, for the entire Imperium. Every Xenos that falls by our hands will be a testament to our unwavering duty to the Emperor. Every heretic that is crushed under our feet will be a testament to our undying loyalty to the citizens of Imperial Space. We will baptize ourselves in fire and emerge as the most steadfast defenders of humanity.” - qoute from my own homegrown chapter
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2010/07/15 01:22:53
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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JFizzle51 wrote:I dont like their color sceme either.
What's not to like, ultramarine blue(which is really royal blue) and shining gold trim. C'mon, it just doesn't get anymore regal or royal than that.
Ultramarines FTW 
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It is the 3rd Millennium. For more than a hundred months Games Workshop has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Nottingham. It is the foremost of wargames by the will of the neckbeards, and master of a million tabletops by the might of their inexhaustible wallets. It is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with business strategies from the early Industrial Revolution Age. It is the Carrion Lord of the wargaming scene for whom a thousand veteran players are sacrificed every day, so that it may never truly die. Yet even in its deathless state, GW continues its eternal vigilance. Mighty battleforce starter-sets cross the online-store-infested miasma of the internet, the only route between distant countries, their way lit by a draconian retail trade-agreement, the legal manifestation of the GW's will. Vast armies of lawyers give battle in GW's name on uncounted websites. Greatest amongst its soldiers are the Guardians of the IP, the Legal Team, bio-engineered super-donkey-caves. Their comrades in arms are legion: the writing team and countless untested rulebooks, the ever vigilant redshirts, and the writers of White Dwarf, to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from other games, their own incompetence, Based Chinaman - and worse. To support Games Workshop in such times is to spend untold billions. It is to support the cruelest and most dickish company imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of sales discounts and Warhammer Fantasy Battle, for so much has been dropped, never to be re-published again. Forget the promise of cheaper digital content and caring about the fanbase, for in the GW HQ there is only profit-seeking, Space Marines and Sigmarines. There is no fun amongst the hobby shops, only an eternity of raging and spending, and the laughter of former employees who left GW to join better companies. |
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2010/07/15 01:23:59
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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IT would be awesome if they had a jet black color....
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2010/07/15 01:25:51
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Asherian Command wrote:IT would be awesome if they had a jet black color....
Well... the allmighty chaplain Cassius of the ultramarines DOES in fact have jet black armor.
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It is the 3rd Millennium. For more than a hundred months Games Workshop has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Nottingham. It is the foremost of wargames by the will of the neckbeards, and master of a million tabletops by the might of their inexhaustible wallets. It is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with business strategies from the early Industrial Revolution Age. It is the Carrion Lord of the wargaming scene for whom a thousand veteran players are sacrificed every day, so that it may never truly die. Yet even in its deathless state, GW continues its eternal vigilance. Mighty battleforce starter-sets cross the online-store-infested miasma of the internet, the only route between distant countries, their way lit by a draconian retail trade-agreement, the legal manifestation of the GW's will. Vast armies of lawyers give battle in GW's name on uncounted websites. Greatest amongst its soldiers are the Guardians of the IP, the Legal Team, bio-engineered super-donkey-caves. Their comrades in arms are legion: the writing team and countless untested rulebooks, the ever vigilant redshirts, and the writers of White Dwarf, to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from other games, their own incompetence, Based Chinaman - and worse. To support Games Workshop in such times is to spend untold billions. It is to support the cruelest and most dickish company imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of sales discounts and Warhammer Fantasy Battle, for so much has been dropped, never to be re-published again. Forget the promise of cheaper digital content and caring about the fanbase, for in the GW HQ there is only profit-seeking, Space Marines and Sigmarines. There is no fun amongst the hobby shops, only an eternity of raging and spending, and the laughter of former employees who left GW to join better companies. |
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2010/07/15 01:26:51
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I agree, replace the Blue with black and you would have one of the coolest looking chapters. I guess i dont like the color scheme because it is the same exact colors as my highschool and i really didnt like my highschool
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The chaplin has black armor because he is a CHAPLIN. and alot af chaplins have black armor
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Imperial Crusaders: 7,500 points
“Brothers, what we do on the battlefield is not just for our chapter but, for the entire Imperium. Every Xenos that falls by our hands will be a testament to our unwavering duty to the Emperor. Every heretic that is crushed under our feet will be a testament to our undying loyalty to the citizens of Imperial Space. We will baptize ourselves in fire and emerge as the most steadfast defenders of humanity.” - qoute from my own homegrown chapter
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2010/07/15 01:29:26
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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All chaplans have jet-black armor 
Also, the ultramarines have successfully battled every single xenos race, and basically kicked buttcheeks (except arguably the tyranids, which people insist they lost,idk..). That's worth a lot to me
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2010/07/15 01:30:17
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Yeah but black armor would be awesome.
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2010/07/15 01:30:44
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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JFizzle51 wrote:I agree, replace the Blue with black and you would have one of the coolest looking chapters. I guess i dont like the color scheme because it is the same exact colors as my highschool and i really didnt like my highschool
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The chaplin has black armor because he is a CHAPLIN. and alot af chaplins have black armor
Well you could replace the blue with black armor and keep the gold trim...Wait a minute...THOSE ARE TRAITEROUS CHAOS COLORS OF THE BLACK LEGION...SOMEONE CALL THE INQUISITER QUICK!!! LOL
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It is the 3rd Millennium. For more than a hundred months Games Workshop has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Nottingham. It is the foremost of wargames by the will of the neckbeards, and master of a million tabletops by the might of their inexhaustible wallets. It is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with business strategies from the early Industrial Revolution Age. It is the Carrion Lord of the wargaming scene for whom a thousand veteran players are sacrificed every day, so that it may never truly die. Yet even in its deathless state, GW continues its eternal vigilance. Mighty battleforce starter-sets cross the online-store-infested miasma of the internet, the only route between distant countries, their way lit by a draconian retail trade-agreement, the legal manifestation of the GW's will. Vast armies of lawyers give battle in GW's name on uncounted websites. Greatest amongst its soldiers are the Guardians of the IP, the Legal Team, bio-engineered super-donkey-caves. Their comrades in arms are legion: the writing team and countless untested rulebooks, the ever vigilant redshirts, and the writers of White Dwarf, to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from other games, their own incompetence, Based Chinaman - and worse. To support Games Workshop in such times is to spend untold billions. It is to support the cruelest and most dickish company imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of sales discounts and Warhammer Fantasy Battle, for so much has been dropped, never to be re-published again. Forget the promise of cheaper digital content and caring about the fanbase, for in the GW HQ there is only profit-seeking, Space Marines and Sigmarines. There is no fun amongst the hobby shops, only an eternity of raging and spending, and the laughter of former employees who left GW to join better companies. |
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2010/07/15 01:31:14
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Ultramarines are popular?
edit: (before someone inevitably overreacts, I honestly only know of one person IRL that owns a UM painted army... most people prefer BA, SW, or their own DIY chapters).
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2010/07/15 01:31:51
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Once again, I'm not denying the Ultramarines battle prowess but, alot of other chapters have great sevice records too. like the Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, White Scars, Salamanders... and so on.
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Imperial Crusaders: 7,500 points
“Brothers, what we do on the battlefield is not just for our chapter but, for the entire Imperium. Every Xenos that falls by our hands will be a testament to our unwavering duty to the Emperor. Every heretic that is crushed under our feet will be a testament to our undying loyalty to the citizens of Imperial Space. We will baptize ourselves in fire and emerge as the most steadfast defenders of humanity.” - qoute from my own homegrown chapter
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2010/07/15 01:32:43
Subject: Re:Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Matt Ward, Codex Writer, Ultramarines Player wrote:"Chapters [not descended from Guilliman's geneseed] are disciples who owe their genetic inheritance to another Primarch, but follow the Codex Astartes as keenly as their divergent heritage allows. While primarily composed of successor Chapters, this group also includes several Chapters of the First Founding - notably the Imperial Fists, White Scars and the Raven Guard. These chapters can never be Ultramarines, for their gene-seed is not that of Roboute Guilliman. Nevertheless, they will ever aspire to the standards and teachings of the great Primarch.
[Chapters who do not emulate the Ultramarines] are aberrants, Chapters who, through quirk of gene-seed, mutation or stubbornness, eschew the Codex Astartes in favor of other structural and combat doctrines. Some, such as the Blood Angels and their successors, strive to be worthy of Guilliman's legacy, but their recalcitrant gene-seed drives them ever further from it. Others, such as the Space Wolves and the Black Templars, remain stubbornly independent, looking to their own founder's ways of war and caring little of how they fare in the eyes of others. These aberrant Chapters were always few in number and their presence diminishes with each passing decade, for their gene-seed is no longer the source of fresh Chapters."
Basically, Ultramarines are the super-duper-best and everyone wants to be them. They can't be though, but they can try!
I'd be fine with the UM just being vaguely roman marines with a really good chapter master and the best psyker in the Imperium, but the fact that Matt Ward wrote this crap into the fluff... it just pushes it over the edge.
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2010/07/15 01:32:48
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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sub-zero wrote:JFizzle51 wrote:I agree, replace the Blue with black and you would have one of the coolest looking chapters. I guess i dont like the color scheme because it is the same exact colors as my highschool and i really didnt like my highschool
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The chaplin has black armor because he is a CHAPLIN. and alot af chaplins have black armor
Well you could replace the blue with black armor and keep the gold trim...Wait a minute...THOSE ARE TRAITEROUS CHAOS COLORS OF THE BLACK LEGION...SOMEONE CALL THE INQUISITER QUICK!!! LOL
you noticed it didn't you MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
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2010/07/15 01:37:02
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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So basically everyone thinks the Ultramarines are Perfect?
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Imperial Crusaders: 7,500 points
“Brothers, what we do on the battlefield is not just for our chapter but, for the entire Imperium. Every Xenos that falls by our hands will be a testament to our unwavering duty to the Emperor. Every heretic that is crushed under our feet will be a testament to our undying loyalty to the citizens of Imperial Space. We will baptize ourselves in fire and emerge as the most steadfast defenders of humanity.” - qoute from my own homegrown chapter
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2010/07/15 01:39:12
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Yep but every chapter has their secerts. The ultramarines are no different.
And i agree with you purplefood
I hate them because of their attiude towards other chapters.
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2010/07/15 01:39:18
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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I think they're d**ks but mainly because of their attitude towards other chapters that don't follow the magical book of how to win at life.
Also Sicarius is a moron but i do like some of the sergeants in the fluff.
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2010/07/15 01:42:20
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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I think the Ultramarines are popular because they have ultra in their name.
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2010/07/15 01:44:17
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Yea the Ultramarines look down on the chapters who dont adhere to the codex astartes word for word. Basically they're the stuck up rich kid jocks of the imperium
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Imperial Crusaders: 7,500 points
“Brothers, what we do on the battlefield is not just for our chapter but, for the entire Imperium. Every Xenos that falls by our hands will be a testament to our unwavering duty to the Emperor. Every heretic that is crushed under our feet will be a testament to our undying loyalty to the citizens of Imperial Space. We will baptize ourselves in fire and emerge as the most steadfast defenders of humanity.” - qoute from my own homegrown chapter
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2010/07/15 01:44:27
Subject: Re:Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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ph34r wrote:Matt Ward, Codex Writer, Ultramarines Player wrote:[snip]
Basically, Ultramarines are the super-duper-best and everyone wants to be them. They can't be though, but they can try!
I'd be fine with the UM just being vaguely roman marines with a really good chapter master and the best psyker in the Imperium, but the fact that Matt Ward wrote this crap into the fluff... it just pushes it over the edge.
And this is why Matt Ward shouldn't be allowed to write Marine codices...
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2010/07/15 01:47:11
Subject: Re:Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Melissia wrote:ph34r wrote:Matt Ward, Codex Writer, Ultramarines Player wrote:[snip]
Basically, Ultramarines are the super-duper-best and everyone wants to be them. They can't be though, but they can try!
I'd be fine with the UM just being vaguely roman marines with a really good chapter master and the best psyker in the Imperium, but the fact that Matt Ward wrote this crap into the fluff... it just pushes it over the edge.
And this is why Matt Ward shouldn't be allowed to write Marine codices...
I concur. At least Have Dark Lord Sean or someone like him do it.
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2010/07/15 01:48:45
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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I only hope whoever writes the Sisters codex isn't braindead and allows them to actually win battles occasionally in the fluff without losing over ninety percent of their forces. Maybe Matt Ward should do it, tell him "Sisters are the new Ultramarines". Sure, it'd get people mad, but it's better than the current fluff 
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2010/07/15 01:50:04
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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True. But i do like the Captain Idaesus lore. Because that is from index astartes. And i based one of my characters on him.
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2010/07/15 01:50:40
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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A good idea would be to have 1 team of writers all on the same wavelength so no one gets stupid fluff like every chapter claiming to have the most powerful psyker or the best person at drop pod assaults etc
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"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
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2010/07/15 01:51:15
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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we all have to agree the most powerful pyskers are in the grey knights chapter.
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2010/07/15 01:52:53
Subject: Why are the Ultramarines so popular?
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Yeah but the Ultramarines say it's Tony the tiger and apparently the Space Wolves say it's Nijel the Stormcaller and a bunch of other claims after that including Je- Mephiston.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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2010/07/15 01:57:39
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I think the only reason people hate ultras is because of the attention they get, if say the hawk lords were the poster boys then everybody would hate them instead
personally my DIY chapter HATES Ultras and will open fire on them if they come into contact with them
(haven't thought of a reson yet but I will, soon. it will have something to do with either the codex or rowboat sillyman as they are sally decendents)
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