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hey, i would greatly appreciate it if i got advice and the such on the following army list: (my experience in 40k is low)

Warhammer 40,000 Ork Army List: 2000 Points
HQ:
Warboss:
Power Klaw, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, Bosspole, ‘Eavy Armour
Warboss:
Power Klaw, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, Bosspole, ‘Eavy Armour
Elites:
Lootas:
15 Lootas
Kommandos:
12 Kommandos
Troops:
Ork Boyz:
30 Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas, Sluggas & Choppas
Ork Boyz:
30 Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas, Sluggas & Choppas
Ork Boyz:
30 Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas, Sluggas & Choppas
Gretchin:
20 Gretchin, 2 Runtherds, 2 Grot-Prods
Gretchin:
20 Gretchin, 2 Runtherds, 2 Grot-Prods
Fast Attack:
Stormboyz:
15 Stormboyz
Stormboyz:
15 Stormboyz
Heavy Support:
Battlewagon:
Killkannon, Deff Rolla, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, 4 Big Shootas

The list isn't bad at all. With the grots serving as meat shields and giving your boyz a 4+ cover save, you should make it to the other side of the field just fine. Needless to say there are going to be those people who are going to insist you put everything in a trukk or BW because "footslogging boyz without a kan wall just aren’t good enough". I will strongly disagree. Even without the grots chances are most of your boyz will make it across just fine. Boyz are a good deal more survivable that people give them credit for.

The stormboyz will work great if you give them a purpose in the battle. Personally if I were to ever run Stormboyz I would use them to get ahead of the line and tie up any shooting line infantry, saving your boyz that horrid rapid-fire round before you charge, at least from two enemy units.

Overall, well done.

I dont have some xp with orks but I realy think that you are wasting a lot of pionts on stuff here like the storm boyz, grot prods,2 runtherders per squad

If you dont mind I would like to see the cind of list I could make out of the models that you have, if you dont own any orks tell me and that will give me more options that I can make a list from

PM me please if you want

THANKS

waaaghpwnage wrote:hey, i would greatly appreciate it if i got advice and the such on the following army list: (my experience in 40k is low)

Warhammer 40,000 Ork Army List: 2000 Points
HQ:
Warboss:
Power Klaw, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, Bosspole, ‘Eavy Armour
Warboss:
Power Klaw, Attack Squig, Cybork Body, Bosspole, ‘Eavy Armour
Elites:
Lootas:
15 Lootas
Kommandos:
12 Kommandos
Troops:
Ork Boyz:
30 Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas, Sluggas & Choppas
Ork Boyz:
30 Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas, Sluggas & Choppas
Ork Boyz:
30 Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas, Sluggas & Choppas
Gretchin:
20 Gretchin, 2 Runtherds, 2 Grot-Prods
Gretchin:
20 Gretchin, 2 Runtherds, 2 Grot-Prods
Fast Attack:
Stormboyz:
15 Stormboyz
Stormboyz:
15 Stormboyz
Heavy Support:
Battlewagon:
Killkannon, Deff Rolla, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, 4 Big Shootas

This list could use a lot of improvement.

HQ - Warboss, PK, Squig, Cybork, Bosspole, 'eavy Armour - 120
HQ - Warboss, PK, Squig, Cybork, Bosspole, 'eavy Armour - 120

I'm going to be honest in that I don't like Warbosses. At all. Not when for 85 points you can give huge portions of your army a 5+ Cover save. The KFF Mek, in almost ANY situation, is superior to any other HQ unit in the Ork codex. Second is Ghazkull Thrakka. This is a pretty foot heavy list, I bet we can pick up enough points to get him in there. Additionally, why have Bosspoles on your Warbosses if your Boyz get them? Why have two different armors?

Elites - 15 Lootas - 225
Elites - 12 Kommandos - 120

Kommandos NEED upgrades. If you take Kommandos, you'd be crazy not to throw Burnas in there (you can take two, and they work as power weapons if you don't fire them) and Kommando squads are nowhere near as potent without Snikrot. He could even sneak Ghazzy onto the table with him if you decide to take him. Also, inb4 Claypool tells you to split your Lootas. Split lootas are more targets for you opponents to deal with, not to mention if you're using 15 to do the job 5 could have done, you've wasted 20 shots. Just sayin'. Personally, I like the full 15 man mob.

Troops - 30 Slugga Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas - 225
Troops - 30 Slugga Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas - 225
Troops - 30 Slugga Boyz, Stikkbombs, 3 Big Shootas - 225
Troops - 20 Grots, 2 Runtherds - 80
Troops - 20 Grots, 2 Runtherds - 80

Now I'm wondering if you're just a troll. I'll repeat this mantra over and over again until I die: Boyz exist in two and a half states, and nothing else;

30 Shootas on Foot
12 Sluggas in a Trukk
(Sometimes) 20 Shootas in a Battlewagon, it's a convention, but I hate it, personally.

Always take a Nob with a Power Klaw and Bosspole. There are no arguments about this. Stikkbombs are literally a waste of points. With that sweet initiative of 2 (3 on the charge) you're going last whether you've got the Stikkbombs or not, and anything that's going at initiative 2 (Fire Warriors and Guardsmen) shouldn't pose a threat to you anyway.

You can save a few points by taking mobs of 19 Grots and 1 Runtherd. Just sayin', it would save you 13 points per mob.

Fast - 15 Stormboyz - 180
Fast - 15 Stormboyz - 180

Once again, Stormboyz have options that you should take. Personally, I'd suggest one unit of Stormboyz with Zagstruck, so you can assault when you deepstrike. Alternatively, Stormboyz make great turn 1 assaulters if you put them at the line, move average 13.5", then assault 6". Just go second. Also, for Fast Attack, consider the solitary Deffkopta with TL Rokkits and a Buzzsaw. They make a 24" scout move, then move 12", shoot TL Rokkits, and then assault stationary armor 6" further on turn 1.

Heavy - Battlewagon, Killkannon, Deff Rolla, RPJ, Riggers, 4 Big Shootas - Lots Of Points

There's nothing in your list that can be transported by a Battlewagon with a Killkannon on it. Are you just using it as a gunboat? Those four big shootas are pretty useless if you move your Battlewagon at all, and Killkannons are pretty bad. More importantly, you have nothing worth protecting with a Battlewagon (nobz, whatever). Orks are very "Go big or go home" kind of guys. You armor up entirely, or not at all. As an alternative, I might suggest the "Kan Wall" which would be a screen of Killa Kans protecting your Shootas with 4+ cover saves, and then KFF Meks, which give your Kans a +4 cover save. March across the field and tear your opponent apart.

Here's my suggestion for your army.

HQ - Ghazkull Thrakka - 225 (Paired with Snikrot, in reserve, for Ambush)
HQ - KFF Mek - 85 (Paired with Shootas #1)

Elite - Lootas x15 - 225 (on back edge, screened by Grots)
Elite - Lootas x15 - 225 (on back edge, screened by Grots)
Elite - Kommandos x10, Burna, Burna, Snikrot - 210 (in reserve with Ghaz)

Troops - Shoota Boyz x30, Nob, PK, BP - 220 (Behind Kans)
Troops - Shoota Boyz x30, Nob, PK, BP - 220 (Behind Kans)
Troops - Grots x19, Runtherd - 67 (Screening Lootas)

Fast - Stormboyz x12 + Zagstrukk - 260 (in reserve)

Heavy - Kans x3, Rokkits - 150 (front of army, screening boyz)
Heavy - Kans x3, Rokkits - 150 (front of army, screening boyz)

That's 2001 points.

allright then thank you all so very much!!!!! hmm... ill have to take this into account again... again, thanks so much! ill take this all into account

Did I hear my name? I think Frosty covered pretty much everything and that second list looks absolutely delicious.

I do love me some Stormboyz...

A useful tip is that Ghaz does not need to be on the field to call his WAAAGH so Ambush away!