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The depths of this man's stupidity continue to boggle my mind.
Mark Williams, the flamethrower leading the battle against the Ground Zero mosque, was kicked out of the National Tea Party Federation Saturday for a racist blog post.
He shrugged off the diss, calling it "grandstanding" from a "minor player on the fringe."
A California radio host and leader of the Tea Party Express, Williams had labeled the Manhattan boro president a "Jewish Uncle Tom" and President Obama an "Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug."
But when he posted a satirical letter supposedly from "the Colored People" to President Lincoln praising slavery, that apparently crossed the line.
The federation, an umbrella organization that claims to represent 85 Tea Party groups, kicked out Williams' group when it wouldn't fire him.
"We have expelled Tea Party Express and Mark Williams from the National Tea Party Federation because of the letter that he wrote," federation spokesman David Webb said on CBS's "Face the Nation."
He called the letter - written after the NAACP called on Tea Party leaders to oust racists from their ranks - "clearly offensive."
In the voice of slaves, Williams wrote: "Mr. Lincoln, you were the greatest racist ever. We had a great gig. Three squares, room and board, all our decisions made by the massa in the house.
"We Coloreds have taken a vote and decided that we don't cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!"
He went on to say blacks don't want taxes cut because "how will we Colored People ever get a wide screen TV in every room if non-coloreds get to keep what they earn?"
In a press release, the National Tea Party Federation says it ordered the Tea Party Express to kick Williams out and say so "prominently" on their Website. They did not.
Williams' response: who's the National Tea Party Federation anyway?
"There are internal political dramas amongst the various self-anointed tea party 'leaders' and some of the minor players on the fringes see the Tea Party Express and Mark Williams as tickets to a booking on Face the Nation," he said.
"There is no tea party leadership; every tea partier is a tea party leader."
The federation says it represents more than a million activists in 85 groups.
Williams' Tea Party Express is one of the most influential in the conservative movement. It has reportedly raised $2.3 million this year, helped elect Sen. Scott Brown in Massachusetts and organized a rally in Nevada that featured a rare Sarah Palin speech.
Williams stepped down as chairman last month to concentrate on leading the fight against the proposed Lower Manhattan mosque, which he called a monument to the 9/11 attackers to "worship the terrorists' monkey-god."
He called Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer, who backs building the mosque, a "Jewish Uncle Tom who would have turned rat on Anne Frank."
Why the feth are they building a Mosque at ground Zero? Thats like building a Mosque on the ruins of Solomon's Temple, or converting one of the largest Christian churches into a Mosque. It just aint right.
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No, it isn't like either of those things; unless America is now a religion? More importantly, why are we fixated on the religion of the 9/11 terrorists? It seems foolish to pretend that any Islamic building is somehow an affront to those who died in 9/11. Actually, scratch that, it doesn't seem foolish: its equal parts blatant idiocy and whaaaambulance worthy whining.
Also, its actually 2 blocks from Ground Zero.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
And we are fixated on the religion of the terrorists because its the reason the did it. We were fixated on Nazi aggression and Soviet ideology too. Just because its their religion doesn't give it immunity from being the target.
OR
You can view it as the natural and eternal struggle of East vs. West.
Or
You can view it as a continuation of the Crusade-era prejudices in reverse
Or
You can view it as the natural repercussions of Imperialism.
It matters little, there should be a monument at Ground Zero, nothing else out of respect.
To the darkness I bring fire. To the ignorant I bring faith. Those who welcome these gifts may live, but I will visit naught but death and eternal damnation on those who refuse them.
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Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Your tongue in cheek meter is out of batteries.
This is a text-based format. You must specifically state when you are being sarcastic outside of those instances in which it is obvious. Your use of sarcasm was not obvious. Do not blame me for your own failings.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
And we are fixated on the religion of the terrorists because its the reason the did it. We were fixated on Nazi aggression and Soviet ideology too. Just because its their religion doesn't give it immunity from being the target.
The assignment of guilt via association is intellectually lazy. Nazism is bad because of what it specifically states. Soviet ideology is not a single thing, but if it were it would be proper to determine its worth on the basis of its specific consequences. Similarly, Islam should be judged by its nature, not by the works of its practitioners. Unless we should begin referring to Christians as arsonists because one of them decided to burn down an abortion clinic?
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
You can view it as the natural and eternal struggle of East vs. West.
Why is it natural? Why is it eternal? Its fun to throw around words every so often, but qualifying them is important if you want to appear as though you know what they mean.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
You can view it as a continuation of the Crusade-era prejudices in reverse
You're looking for the word 'affiliations'. Please make an attempt to learn what I assume is your native language.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
You can view it as the natural repercussions of Imperialism.
The natural repercussions of Imperialism include demonizing a given faith?
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
It matters little, there should be a monument at Ground Zero, nothing else out of respect.
The mosque isn't at Ground Zero, its 2 blocks away. Read the the thread.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
The way it's phrased is very deliberate, 'mosque at Ground Zero' implies the construction is part of the area destroyed by the 9/11 attack. A much more accurate expression would be 'a mosque is to be built out of a pre-existing building that is two blocks from the sight of the 9/11 attacks.
People like Mark Williams phrase it using the deliberately obscure term above to make it sound like they're placing it on the actual sight of the attack. This allows them to tap into the myth of Islam vs the West, making the heavy implication that this building is part of some Islamic victory over the West. He does this because he's a racist jackhole, people fall for it because the myth is powerful and all too easy to accept, if you don't follow the actual facts and just accept the story as presented by guys like Williams.
There's also the problem with assuming that an Islamic building placed on that sight somehow is from the same people who attacked 9/11. Islam has more than a billion adherents, and they’re more diverse than Christianity. The group planning to build the mosque are a moderate group, promoting peaceful relations between Islam and the West. But again, the racists don’t refer to that part of the story.
I guess the moral is don’t listen to the racists.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Your tongue in cheek meter is out of batteries.
This is a text-based format. You must specifically state when you are being sarcastic outside of those instances in which it is obvious. Your use of sarcasm was not obvious. Do not blame me for your own failings.
Oh, I didn't read that in Dogma's rules of the internet. My bad
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
And we are fixated on the religion of the terrorists because its the reason the did it. We were fixated on Nazi aggression and Soviet ideology too. Just because its their religion doesn't give it immunity from being the target.
The assignment of guilt via association is intellectually lazy. Nazism is bad because of what it specifically states. Soviet ideology is not a single thing, but if it were it would be proper to determine its worth on the basis of its specific consequences. Similarly, Islam should be judged by its nature, not by the works of its practitioners. Unless we should begin referring to Christians as arsonists because one of them decided to burn down an abortion clinic?
So the terrorists weren't radical fundamentalists? And I shouldn't associate radical fundamentalist Muslims with the works of radical fundamentalist Muslims? Because thats what I associate with the terrorists.
Clearly my response was about terrorists, since I you know, said it in the fething post. Since the Islam of the terrorists is the crazy Islam and not the one that focuses on loving its neighbor and charity, I will not associate it as such. We arn't talking about Sulayman the Magnificent here, we are talking about some 20 something donkey-caves. In the same way no one likes the Westboro mother fethers and their Christianity, we dont like the terroists and their brand of crazy.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
You can view it as the natural and eternal struggle of East vs. West.
Why is it natural? Why is it eternal? Its fun to throw around words every so often, but qualifying them is important if you want to appear as though you know what they mean.
How long has the East been fighting the West? How long has the East been totally opposite of the West? Forever. In no world will the East and West ever be together. We can trade, we can share, we can coexist (nowadays) but they can't integrate any more than oil and water. Why has the Middle East been the site of constant warfare throughout civilized History? Its where East and West meet. Even when one conquered the other for centuries they remained different.
Are you just being an donkey-cave or can you really not see that the East and West have never gotten along without incident nor will they ever.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
You can view it as a continuation of the Crusade-era prejudices in reverse
You're looking for the word 'affiliations'. Please make an attempt to learn what I assume is your native language.
Continuation? It means to prolonging a state of activity, or continue. During the Crusades the Islamic and Christian worlds were at war with each other. Some branches of Islam view the West as the great Satan, and an enemy that must be destroyed, similar to how the Christian world viewed the Muslim world at the time of the Crusades. During said time it is reasonable and proven that Muslims didn't like Christians, hence the 'prejudice'. And now they attack the Christian World, hence the 'reverse'.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
You can view it as the natural repercussions of Imperialism.
The natural repercussions of Imperialism include demonizing a given faith?
The natural repercussions being a group of people having recovered from Imperialism now seek to damage the entity which they perceive as having stolen its glory.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
It matters little, there should be a monument at Ground Zero, nothing else out of respect.
The mosque isn't at Ground Zero, its 2 blocks away. Read the the thread.
There should be nothing at Ground Zero besides a monument. Nothing. Not a Mosque. Not a gift stand. Not a Starbucks. Nothing. Why are you attacking me for my comprehension when you couldn't understand a plain sentence.
Do you have some sort of problem? Because nothing in your post had any substance other than an to attack me and make me look stupid.
If you are just having a bad day and needed to take it out on someone, know that I am here for you in whatever capacity I can be. I'm sure we'll get through this.
If you were just being a dick, well...I guess there isn't anything I can do about it.
To the darkness I bring fire. To the ignorant I bring faith. Those who welcome these gifts may live, but I will visit naught but death and eternal damnation on those who refuse them.
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Marshal2Crusaders wrote:There should be nothing at Ground Zero besides a monument. Nothing. Not a Mosque. Not a gift stand. Not a Starbucks. Nothing. Why are you attacking me for my comprehension when you couldn't understand a plain sentence.
There are people living and working in buildings that are closer than the site of the proposed mosque. Are those people to have their buildings knocked down as part of a monument?
It isn’t being built on the site of the 9/11 attack. It is being built somewhat near the site of the 9/11 attack. The former is how the racists phrase it, because they want you to be outraged.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Again, guys, I am stating an opinion. I dont give a feth about the mosque. Put out the torches.
To the darkness I bring fire. To the ignorant I bring faith. Those who welcome these gifts may live, but I will visit naught but death and eternal damnation on those who refuse them.
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The Vengeance Crusade Black Templars Resource Faith and Fire The Ammobunker Gamertag: MarshalTodt
Allowing a mosque to be built by the site shows that the attacks accomplished nothing, it shows that we stand by the most basic tenant of our country freedom of expression. It shows that no matter how much the terrorists wish to divide us we will refuse to be terrified, and instead strengthen our resolve to stand behind our constitution beliefs of our founders.
H.B.M.C. wrote:
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Three things matter in marksmanship -
location, location, location
MagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
Eric
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
Oh, I didn't read that in Dogma's rules of the internet. My bad
Its common courtesy. If you don't want your words to be misinterpreted you should be clear in your meaning. When you aren't clear in your meaning you should admit to the absence of that clarity; doing otherwise makes you appear needlessly defensive.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
So the terrorists weren't radical fundamentalists? And I shouldn't associate radical fundamentalist Muslims with the works of radical fundamentalist Muslims? Because thats what I associate with the terrorists
I didn't indicate that the terrorists weren't radical, fundamentalist Muslims, or that their action were not representative of radical, fundamentalist Muslims. I indicated that the terrorists and, by extension, radical, fundamentalist Muslims are not representative of the whole of Islam; which is what would be required for the construction of a mosque near Ground Zero to be offensive. Read the thread.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
Clearly my response was about terrorists, since I you know, said it in the fething post.
No, that's wrong. Your response appeared to equate terrorists with all Muslims. You should pay more attention to what you're saying, as you do not appear as though you are doing so presently.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
Since the Islam of the terrorists is the crazy Islam and not the one that focuses on loving its neighbor and charity, I will not associate it as such. We arn't talking about Sulayman the Magnificent here, we are talking about some 20 something donkey-caves. In the same way no one likes the Westboro mother fethers and their Christianity, we dont like the terroists and their brand of crazy.
No, we're talking about other Muslims that want to re-appropriate a presently existential structure for use as a house of worship, and the ridiculous tendency of certain people (yourself seemingly included) to associate that desire with 9/11.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
How long has the East been fighting the West? How long has the East been totally opposite of the West? Forever.
That's a cute little myth you have, but it isn't particularly well grounded in reality. Neither the East nor the West is a monolithic body, and neither have been engaged in some sort of 'war' against the other.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
In no world will the East and West ever be together.
Well duh, they're geographically distinct places. One would have to fold space-time for the two to exist on top of one another.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
We can trade, we can share, we can coexist (nowadays) but they can't integrate any more than oil and water. Why has the Middle East been the site of constant warfare throughout civilized History? Its where East and West meet. Even when one conquered the other for centuries they remained different.
The Middle East has been the site of warfare, off and on, for centuries because it is the origin of the oldest human civilizations. Humans fight each other, its what they do. Association with a cardinal direction is hardly the determinant of that.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
Are you just being an donkey-cave or can you really not see that the East and West have never gotten along without incident nor will they ever.
I'm pointing out that your analysis is childish.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
During the Crusades the Islamic and Christian worlds were at war with each other. Some branches of Islam view the West as the great Satan, and an enemy that must be destroyed, similar to how the Christian world viewed the Muslim world at the time of the Crusades. During said time it is reasonable and proven that Muslims didn't like Christians, hence the 'prejudice'. And now they attack the Christian World, hence the 'reverse'.
No, prejudice is the wrong word. A prejudicial reaction is one based on an assessment prior to any instance from which knowledge can be taken. An affiliation is something which indicates a certain preference or sort of allegiance which implies taking a side in any possible conflict. During the Crusades the Muslims were affiliated with themselves, and therefore would have been opposed to Christians for reasons of social psychology, which does not necessarily have anything to do with prejudice.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
The natural repercussions being a group of people having recovered from Imperialism now seek to damage the entity which they perceive as having stolen its glory.
Which has nothing to do with blocking the creation of a mosque near Ground Zero. You don't seem to be able to follow this conversation.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
There should be nothing at Ground Zero besides a monument. Nothing. Not a Mosque. Not a gift stand. Not a Starbucks. Nothing. Why are you attacking me for my comprehension when you couldn't understand a plain sentence.
I'm attacking your comprehension because you seem to be intent on going off on unrelated topics. The mosque isn't at Ground Zero, and what should, or should not, be at Ground Zero has nothing to do with the presence of a mosque near Ground Zero.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
Do you have some sort of problem? Because nothing in your post had any substance other than an to attack me and make me look stupid.
I found my post quite substantive in its rebuttal of your, now seemingly tangential, statements.
If you posted relevant information, or managed to cling to a consistent narrative, then I wouldn't have been inspired to critique what, to my mind, was an exceedingly poor example of a post. Put differently, I'm not making you look foolish, you did that yourself.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Again, guys, I am stating an opinion. I dont give a feth about the mosque. Put out the torches.
I you don't care about the mosque, then why did you mention it?
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Again, guys, I am stating an opinion. I dont give a feth about the mosque. Put out the torches.
Yeah, but an opinion needs to have some relation to the reality of the situation, doesn’t it?
A belief that there shouldn’t be anything on the site but a memorial is fine, but doesn’t have much to do with conversation about a building being turned into a mosque two blocks away from the site. Yeah?
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Ah, your upset I was taking the thread off topic. Ok, that makes more sense.
As for everything else:
I'm sure one day you might forgive me for having a different viewpoint from your own. I can assure you I do plenty of study in my major, and know what I am talking about. If you choose to think I don't, there is nothing I can do about that either.
Have a good evening, internet.
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To the darkness I bring fire. To the ignorant I bring faith. Those who welcome these gifts may live, but I will visit naught but death and eternal damnation on those who refuse them.
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youbedead wrote:Allowing a mosque to be built by the site shows that the attacks accomplished nothing, it shows that we stand by the most basic tenant of our country freedom of expression. It shows that no matter how much the terrorists wish to divide us we will refuse to be terrified, and instead strengthen our resolve to stand behind our constitution beliefs of our founders.
It does nothing of the sort. Why? Because everyone knows that the US stopped being the easy going country it had been. When the patriot act was rammed through congress, we shed all rights to claim our nation as to being free. It only demonstrated just how easily we could be stampeded into sacrificing the Liberty that most americans pay lip service to while having no idea of its true meaning.
The second we showed our selves to be a society that indulges in the fear based thought process we lost an important part of ourselves. You can trace the current AZ immigration idiocy back to the fear based policies enacted after 9/11.
Truth be told, the Mosque means nothing except that it is something for the people to be distracted over rather than dealing with our real problems currently. Basically, the story about the mosque is a political Jerry Springer Show. To engage in a debate about such is to play the game of those that are seeking to destroy this country. For the record, I am not engaging in the debate about the mosque now. Merely stating that it is a gistraction from the real underlying issue.
Now, I will debate the underlying issue and the postives I see in the Tea party.
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Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Ah, your upset I was taking the thread off topic. Ok, that makes more sense.
I'm not upset at all. I'm wondering why you would seemingly go out of your way to present a series of disjointed, irrelevant points.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
I'm sure one day you might forgive me for having a different viewpoint from your own.
What viewpoint? The only statement you've made that's even remotely related to anything that I've said is the odd bit of neo-Said East v. West commentary.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:
I can assure you I do plenty of study in my major, and know what I am talking about.
I don't know of any academic discipline that makes a habit of considering the East and West as diametrically opposed groups of people.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
We should build a pair of skyscrapers in Mecca. That would make the Muslims think twice about messing with the USA!
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Ah, your upset I was taking the thread off topic. Ok, that makes more sense.
No, no-one is upset or bothered that you're taking this off topic.
I am annoyed that you realised you misunderstood the situation (mosque on site compared to mosque near to site in pre-existing building), but lack the honesty to admit that, and instead are posting nonsense to backtrack out of the thread. Seriously, just own up and admit you goofed, it is no biggie.
I'm sure one day you might forgive me for having a different viewpoint from your own. I can assure you I do plenty of study in my major, and know what I am talking about. If you choose to think I don't, there is nothing I can do about that either.
Lots of people know lots of things, but that doesn't stop them from goofing up every once in a while. Thing is, people who are honest and don't play ego games over silly little points will accept where they were in error, and then allow the conversation to move forward. It's the thing that makes academic discourse more productive than internet postings from random goobs. Given you're studying right now I'd have thought you would understand it's importance.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
lol. Indonesian Muslim turned wellfare thug? So ridiculous its genuinelly funny, but surely he cant possibly be this much of an idiot? Perhaps we all underestimate him and he is actually a brilliant satirist who votes democrat and thinks Barack is the best thing sinced sliced bread? :-)
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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dogma wrote:Hank Williams would probably have more poise in public.
Well of course Hank Azaria would have more poise in public. Who could possibly have more poise than Hank Azaria?
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
If we're going to talk about Hank Williams II, can we at least append 'junior' to his name out of respect for the actual Hank Williams? One is a legen, one is simply ok. Come on now.
It takes a real man to be badass in a business suit.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
To the darkness I bring fire. To the ignorant I bring faith. Those who welcome these gifts may live, but I will visit naught but death and eternal damnation on those who refuse them.
+++ Chaplain Grimaldus of the Black Templars, Hero of Helsreach +++
The Vengeance Crusade Black Templars Resource Faith and Fire The Ammobunker Gamertag: MarshalTodt
Officially elevated by St. God of Yams to the rank of Scholar of the Church of the Children of the Eternal Turtle Pie at 11:42:36 PM 05/01/09 
