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Made in se
Fresh-Faced New User





Hi!

the other week i posted a "Noob in need of help!"-thread, were i needed advice on what to buy next. I decided to make an army specialized in "mechanized assault". this is my noobish attempt to make such a list of 1500 pts. please, critisize it as much as possible. keep in mind the intention of this list is not to win every single match , but perhaps a few more than half of them. thanks!

HQ : Ghazghkull Thraka, 225 pts.
Big mek w/ KFF and choppa, 85 pts.

Elites : 9 lootas, 135 pts.
4 nobz w/ big choppas, eavy armour, 120 pts.

Troops : 12x5 boyz, 1x5 nobz w/ power klaws and bosspoles, trukks w/ wrecking balls (as dedicated vehicles), 157x5pts (=785pts).
11 boyz, nob w/ power klaw, trukk w/ wrecking ball and grot riggers (as dedicated vehicle), 150 pts.

total points : 1500pts.
total models : 92.

The idea really is to shove ghazghkull into the 4 nobz, just so that he has "bodyguards" to rely on when fired upon, the big mek goes into the 11 ork troop (fits into the trukk). so, the trukks will pretty much be right next to eachother to hand them the force field save and gives them a significantly higher chans of survival. the 9 lootas are backing everything up with firepower. the wrecking balls on the trukks are there to give the trukks something to do when they're done with transportation (good for damaging walkers i've heard). i had 5 points left to spend and thats the main reason the grot riggers are on one of the trukks with the big mek in it so it stays mobile... ghazghkull waaaghs and thats when chaos is unleashed.

anything completely whacked with this list? could i win 3 out of 5 ordinary games with this list?

Thanks!

/alex.
   
Made in us
Angry Blood Angel Assault marine





Tigard Oregon

Loose a couple trukks and give gaz a battlewagon, dont bother with 4 nobs, have him with some boys in that wagon.

 
   
Made in gb
Waaagh! Warbiker





yeah like above i would say take out the nobs (with trukk) and another one of the boyz trukk and make the unit to 18 and give it a battle wagon and if possible give it a deff rolla to take out vechiles like land raiders because right now you have ghaz to take them out thats it.

Plus it's fairly credible that a GW marketing campaign for their biggest release would fit on one side of A4 - Flashman  
   
Made in se
Fresh-Faced New User





Okay, lets see if this is more agreeable.

HQ : Ghazghkull Thraka, 225 pts.
Big mek w/ KFF and choppa, 85 pts.

Elites : 9 lootas, 135 pts.

Troops : 12x4 boyz, 1x4 nobz w/ power klaws and bosspoles, trukks w/ wrecking balls (as dedicated vehicles), 157x4pts (=628)
15 boyz, 90pts.
11 boyz, one nob w/ power klaw and bosspole, trukk w/ wrecking ball (as dedicated vehicle), 151pts.

Heavy Support : Battlewagon w/ deff rolla, kannon and 2 big shootas, 130 pts.

total points : 1444
total models : 86
what should i do with the remaining 56pts?

thanks for the help so far!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/09 20:19:02


 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka





Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents

Hey there!

I play Mechanized orks.

I don't want to copy/paste the entire book I just put elsewhere....so please do me a favor, click this thread, and read the very long post I just made about thematic play with Orks.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/310129.page

Also in there is my own mechanized ork list, and links to some battle reports where I've taken the Pink Waaaugh! out and curb-stomped almost everyone.

At 1500 points, I'd give you a few pointers.

1. 9 Lootas is a bad choice. Take two units of 5. You get to fire at two different targets instead of one, and honestly....all you *need* is a shaken result on something with a lot of guns for it to be effective. 5 Lootas shaking a vendetta that in turn can't fire at your battlewagon with its triple twin-linked lascannons is a unit of 5 Lootas paying for themselves. Just as importantly, Lootas have a 48" range - the weapons that can range you are anti-tank weapons - meaning that your opponent has to choose between your tanks and your Lootas for targets. ALWAYS make them have to make difficult choices.

2. Nobs in 1500 is iffy. You *need* a powerful unit, but in 1500 points, you're forced to dedicate so much of your army point allocation to the unit to make it worthy of taking that you hurt the rest of your army. 1750+ is another story, but at 1500, I would leave the nobs out.

3. Trukks: Eh. An exploding truck probably means 3-5 dead boyz, leaving you with a potentially pinned and understrength scoring unit. In my mechanized lists, trukk units are simply there to back up my main efforts. Wherever I'm not sure I'm bringing enough force to decisively end a fight, I add in a trukk full of boyz to swing the fight in my favor. Honestly, given the amount of tanks out there, and how easy it is to explode a trukk - I'd shy away from them in this edition.

4. You *do* need a powerhouse unit. You have Ghazghkull, who can literally take on anything in 40k by himself (except for a C'Tan), but that's only good while he's on the Waaaugh! Have you considered burna boyz?

5. Gretchin!!! Don't underestimate the value of a 67 point scoring troop choice of 19 dudes that can hold the backfield objectives to free up the rest of your army to go kick tail.

I'd continue with a book, but let me just provide you with a 1500 point list and let you decide if I'm worth listening to for yourself.


HQ1: Ghazghkull Thraka
HQ2: Big Mek + KFF

Troop1: 16 Boyz, Nob + Powerklaw + Bosspole
Troop2: 12 Boyz, Nob + Powerklaw + Bosspole // Trukk + Reinforced Ram + Boarding Plank
Troop3: 10x Gretchin + Runtherder

Elite1: 15x Burnas
Elite2: 5x Lootas
Elite3: 5x Lootas

FA1: Deffkopta + TL Rokkits + Buzzsaw
FA2: Deffkopta + TL Rokkits + Buzzsaw
FA3: Warbuggies x2 with Twin-linked rokkits

Heavy1: Battlewagon + Deffrolla + Big Shoota + Grabbin' Klaw + Boarding Plank + Armor Plates
Heavy2: Battlewagon + Deffrolla + Big Shoota + Grabbin' Klaw + Boarding Plank + Armor Plates

Total: 1498

Ghazghkull with Burnas in one battlewagon, KFF with boyz in the other; if you lose either one, there is room for the IC to jump into the other battlewagon and keep trukking. All vehicles have boarding planks for extra anti-vehicular ability. Whether the burnas are dropping 15 templates out of their wagon (and boy, if you read some of my batreps, you'll read some fantastic stories about causing 90+ wounds to units) or assaulting with all power weapons, you have your dead killy answer to death star units to back up Ghazghkull.






   
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Moldy Mushroom




Also, Don't for get killa kans. With their High(er) BS, and complex options, with relative cheapness. Nobody can stop the wall.


I can't hit the broad side of a barn cuz, I'm too busy hitting the broad side of your mom!!!  
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka





Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents

Chocobo_joe wrote:Also, Don't for get killa kans. With their High(er) BS, and complex options, with relative cheapness. Nobody can stop the wall.



I'm pretty sure the OP is pursuing a mechanized list, which....kans don't belong in, IMHO.

   
Made in se
Fresh-Faced New User





Actually, i based the first list on your post..

HQ1: Ghazghkull Thraka = 225pts
HQ2: Big Mek + KFF = 85pts

Troop1: 16 Boyz, Nob + Powerklaw + Bosspole = 136pts
Troop2: 12 Boyz, Nob + Powerklaw + Bosspole // Trukk + Reinforced Ram = 152pts
Troop3: 12 Boyz, Nob + Powerklaw + Bosspole // Trukk + Reinforced Ram = 152pts
Troop4: 10x Gretchin + Runtherder = 50pts

Elite1: 15x Burnas = 225pts
Elite2: 5x Lootas = 75pts

FA1: Deffkopta + TL Rokkits + Buzzsaw = 70pts
FA2: Deffkopta + TL Rokkits + Buzzsaw = 70pts

Heavy1: Battlewagon + Deffrolla + 2 Big Shootas + Armor Plates = 125pts
Heavy2: Battlewagon + Deffrolla + 2 Big Shootas + Armor Plates = 125pts

Total = 1500pts.
total models = 79.

I made it more affordable for me , and yet it remains a decent list, amiright? or did i simply suckify it?
thank you very much, dash! you saved me from eternal gameloss. luls. like your avatar too.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/11 14:59:36


 
   
 
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