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This is my current list for 1500 Points. I'm trying to fine tune it to the best of its abilities.

1500 Point List. Waaagh! Da Gang Green Gang

Boss Dun'Goofed
1 Ork Warboss (Power Klaw, Twin-Linked Shoota, Cybork Body, 'eavy Armour, Boss Pole) 110 points.

Mek Boss Slugstoppa
1 Ork Big Mek (Burna, KFF) 105 points. or 1 Big Mek (KFF, Cybork Body, 'eavy Armour, BP) 105 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

20 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 160 points.

5 Nobz (4: Big Choppa, 1: Waaagh! Banner, PK)

10 Lootas 150 Points.

10 Lootas 150 Points.

(Things I'm questioning.)

Lootas: 2, 10 man squads or 5, 5 man squads?

Nobz: Yes or No on this for point filling? If yes: Waaagh! Fits nicely but I'm up for suggestions.

Mek: Burna or the armor upgrades?

Boyz: Should I make the last squad 25? I have 28 so I can't make the last 30 man squad.

Any other ideas or tips welcomed.

No power claw in your nob squad? big choppers are nice but iiirc they lack the armour penetrating abilities of a power claw (klaw whatever).

CHR15T09H3R wrote:No power claw in your nob squad? big choppers are nice but iiirc they lack the armour penetrating abilities of a power claw (klaw whatever).

There is one and I needed a 165 point fill.

Are you gonna get any kans or dreads? you have a lot oy boyz- perfect meat shield for some heavy stuff.

You can't do 5, 5 man loota squads by the standard FoC.

Howdy,

There are 2 ways to run footsloggers.

1. Kan wall
2. Massed boyz

You have opted massed boyz. With a decent amount of boyz.

1. Your boyz are set up perfectly

2. Warboss and nobs here are pointless, they will die fast and be laughed at by your enemy.

3. Your lootaz are fine, but unless there is terrain they will have a hard time getting a shot off.

4. Mek is should only have the KFF and taking him down to 85 points.

5. fill up the 20 boyz to 30 with the left over points.

6. add some grots for objective grabbing or add another squad of boyz and split the number up among them.

If you want to change it up put in kanz (but no less than 6, and must have grotzookaz or rokkits)... wow, i just gave too much advice

Tossy wrote:Howdy,

There are 2 ways to run footsloggers.

1. Kan wall
2. Massed boyz

You have opted massed boyz. With a decent amount of boyz.

1. Your boyz are set up perfectly

2. Warboss and nobs here are pointless, they will die fast and be laughed at by your enemy.

3. Your lootaz are fine, but unless there is terrain they will have a hard time getting a shot off.

4. Mek is should only have the KFF and taking him down to 85 points.

5. fill up the 20 boyz to 30 with the left over points.

6. add some grots for objective grabbing or add another squad of boyz and split the number up among them.

If you want to change it up put in kanz (but no less than 6, and must have grotzookaz or rokkits)... wow, i just gave too much advice

You mean Green Tide, which is clearly what the list is called?

What makes the Warboss and Nobz pointless?


@ Chris
Kan Wall is a completely different list, which I am not running. This is Green Tide meaning lots of Boyz.

It'd also be good to note I do not own Grots currently.

Swap the Warboss for another Mek with a KFF

Drop everything BUT the KFF from the Big Mek - he isnt mobile so the template wont get used much and he's an IC which means He'll get singled out early in CC.
Id drop the NOB unit and add DeffKoptas


30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

5 Lootas

5 Lootas

5 Lootas

1 DeffKopta TL Rokkits and Buzzsaw

1 DeffKopta TL Rokkits and Buzzsaw

1 DeffKopta TL Rokkits and Buzzsaw

You have 15 points left over for another loota or drop the second Big Mek for a Warboss with PK and Attack Squig.

Swap the Warboss for another Mek with a KFF

Drop everything BUT the KFF from the Big Mek - he isnt mobile so the template wont get used much and he's an IC which means He'll get singled out early in CC.
Id drop the NOB unit and add DeffKoptas


30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

5 Lootas

5 Lootas

5 Lootas

1 DeffKopta TL Rokkits and Buzzsaw

1 DeffKopta TL Rokkits and Buzzsaw

1 DeffKopta TL Rokkits and Buzzsaw

You have 15 points left over for another loota or drop the second Big Mek for a Warboss with PK and Attack Squig

See but then here comes the whole, why not Shoota boyz, grots, blah blah.

@The_Savior. Sure? You're real weakness could be heavy armored units holding the line, that is why I think amongst the tide you should have a few kans or dreads, to finish up the tough units. Like in one match I saw, heaps of gaunts (a lot) fighting a squad of necron warriors, the warriors held the line for ages and were only killed with the combined assault of genestealers and a broodlord.

Orks arent Nids, and it's a known fact Orks beat Necrons.

Also, look at every Green Tide list and Kan Wall list, they vary from different ways. I'm not trying to cookie cutter or copy anyones list.

I'm asking for some small help and opinions on what to use.

oh...

Don't get me wrong, you're providing help.

If I was making a Kan wall list, sounds by your experience you'd be like... so and so is good.

However Green Tide is different, vehicles seem the way to go though.

The_Savior wrote:Don't get me wrong, you're providing help.

If I was making a Kan wall list, sounds by your experience you'd be like... so and so is good.

However Green Tide is different, vehicles seem the way to go though.

Lol , I'm only really posting to raise my posts so that Commander Endova can do my sig (need 100 posts).

That's selfish, and rather sad for a forum name.

You could easily go to the painting and modeling thread and just comment on pictures and such.

The_Savior wrote:That's selfish, and rather sad for a forum name.

You could easily go to the painting and modeling thread and just comment on pictures and such.

Don't get the wrong idea, I like posting my opinion up, the 100 post thing is an added bonus. I don't why I have to get 100 posts, he says to show loyalty to the forum.

CHR15T09H3R wrote:

The_Savior wrote:That's selfish, and rather sad for a forum name.

You could easily go to the painting and modeling thread and just comment on pictures and such.

Don't get the wrong idea, I like posting my opinion up, the 100 post thing is an added bonus. I don't why I have to get 100 posts, he says to show loyalty to the forum.

Loyalty to the forum? I can get 100 posts on the first day here if I wanted to.

Anyways... have you ever fought against Deff Koptas? If so how were they?

Haven't fought them, have used them though, very valuable with buzz saw and twin linked rokkits. Only problem is bs but I suppose all orks that involve shooting have that problem. Guess you could use them on charge? stead of kans or dreads?

CHR15T09H3R wrote:Haven't fought them, have used them though, very valuable with buzz saw and twin linked rokkits. Only problem is bs but I suppose all orks that involve shooting have that problem. Guess you could use them on charge? stead of kans or dreads?

I was thinking use them or use Warbikers. Because my list is stuck at 1280 but I could use 6 Warbikers or 3 Koptas and upgrade the Mek a bit.

Hmmm... I would use Deffkoptas but then again I've never used warbikes before.

Well mainly people say use Koptas, but I also heard some good things about Warbikers.

The_Savior wrote:Well mainly people say use Koptas, but I also heard some good things about Warbikers.

Please elaborate...

CHR15T09H3R wrote:

The_Savior wrote:Well mainly people say use Koptas, but I also heard some good things about Warbikers.

Please elaborate...

Well Koptas and Bikers can both emit a smoke effect giving them a cover save.

However a Kopta and a Biker vary...

They both get the normal Ork special rules Furious Charge and Mob rule.

Kopta: Twin-linked rokkit launcha , Buzzsaw (Scout - Hit and Run)

Warbiker: Big Choppa (Exhaust Cloud) 4+ Cover Save

Warbiker Nob: Power Klaw, Bosspole (Ditto)

The Bikers have a Dakka Gun 18" Str: 5 AP: 5 Assault 3

The_Savior wrote:

CHR15T09H3R wrote:

The_Savior wrote:Well mainly people say use Koptas, but I also heard some good things about Warbikers.

Please elaborate...

Well Koptas and Bikers can both emit a smoke effect giving them a cover save.

However a Kopta and a Biker vary...

They both get the normal Ork special rules Furious Charge and Mob rule.

Kopta: Twin-linked rokkit launcha , Buzzsaw (Scout - Hit and Run)

Warbiker: Big Choppa (Exhaust Cloud) 4+ Cover Save

Warbiker Nob: Power Klaw, Bosspole (Ditto)

The Bikers have a Dakka Gun 18" Str: 5 AP: 5 Assault 3

Woad dakka guns are awesome, assault 3 str 5! So warbikers are really just fast moving nobz?

CHR15T09H3R wrote:

The_Savior wrote:

CHR15T09H3R wrote:

The_Savior wrote:Well mainly people say use Koptas, but I also heard some good things about Warbikers.

Please elaborate...

Well Koptas and Bikers can both emit a smoke effect giving them a cover save.

However a Kopta and a Biker vary...

They both get the normal Ork special rules Furious Charge and Mob rule.

Kopta: Twin-linked rokkit launcha , Buzzsaw (Scout - Hit and Run)

Warbiker: Big Choppa (Exhaust Cloud) 4+ Cover Save

Warbiker Nob: Power Klaw, Bosspole (Ditto)

The Bikers have a Dakka Gun 18" Str: 5 AP: 5 Assault 3

Woad dakka guns are awesome, assault 3 str 5! So warbikers are really just fast moving nobz?

Fast nobs with Armor and Guns

The_Savior wrote:

CHR15T09H3R wrote:

The_Savior wrote:

CHR15T09H3R wrote:

The_Savior wrote:Well mainly people say use Koptas, but I also heard some good things about Warbikers.

Please elaborate...

Well Koptas and Bikers can both emit a smoke effect giving them a cover save.

However a Kopta and a Biker vary...

They both get the normal Ork special rules Furious Charge and Mob rule.

Kopta: Twin-linked rokkit launcha , Buzzsaw (Scout - Hit and Run)

Warbiker: Big Choppa (Exhaust Cloud) 4+ Cover Save

Warbiker Nob: Power Klaw, Bosspole (Ditto)

The Bikers have a Dakka Gun 18" Str: 5 AP: 5 Assault 3

Woad dakka guns are awesome, assault 3 str 5! So warbikers are really just fast moving nobz?

Fast nobs with Armor and Guns

Do koptas have an Armour value? iirc they have +4 armour, but some how that doesn't sound right.

+4 save you mean?

The_Savior wrote:+4 save you mean?

Oh yeah right.

Yeah they don't have armor values. They're just jetbikes and bikes haha.

Deff Koptas have the advantage if you get the first turn, because you cahn charge the machines that have not moved and get insta-power klaw hits. Thats about it from my experience fighting agaisnt orks.