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So I brought my "unorthodox" daemon list to NOVA, and I'd like to think I did fairly well.

My list you may ask.
HQ
Fateweaver

Bloodthirster- might

Elites
6 crushers- icon musican champ

6 crushers- icon musican champ

6 fiends

Troops
5 horrors- bolt changeling

5 horrors- bolt

5 horrors- bolt

5 horrors- bolt

8 bloodletters

Fast
3 screamers

3 screamers

3 screamers

Well round one I find myself on table 25 against a local ork player Mike S.

His list
Warboss- bike claw cybork

Big Mek- KFF

7 meganobz
Battlewagon

12 tankbustas
(in battle wagon with kill kannon)

20 boyz- claw

20 boyz- claw

12 shoota boyz
Trukk

8 warbikers- klaw (not nob bikers)

2 battle wagons

1 battle wagon- kill kannon

All the battle wagons had standard stuff

So its dawn of war deployment, VP's primary, Quarters secondary, and Objectives Tertiary

He won the roll for first and gives it to me. He reserves his whole army (not DoW reserve, Reserve.)

My Turn 1
I want Fateweaver, bloodthirster, 1 squad of crushers, the fiends, the horrors with changeling, and 2 screamers and I get it. I deploy in the center of the table and run to spread out, fateweaver and screamers in back.

His Turn 1
...

My Turn 2
More crushers 1 more horrors come in. Crushers deep strike on a flank off the icon, and the horrors in fron of them also off the icon. I spread my army so I'm on the center with 1 squad of crushers on each flank fateweaver, fiends and bloodthirster in middle and the screamers boost in front and the horrors run to form a wall in front of all of it.

His Turn 2
He gets all but his warboss and bikes and 1 squad of 20 boyz. He brings on his 2 battle wagons with 20 boyz and tank bustas and the trukk with the shootas on 1 flank. And the mega nobz on the other. Minor shooting does nothing.

My Turn 3
I get 2 squads of horrors a squad of screamers and a squad of bloodletters. I put the horrors way on the flank with 1 battle wagon, with bloodletters deepstriking right behond (as bat for the mega nobz) I moved a crusher squad in position to counter charge. 1 squad of horrors came in and wrecked the triukk with shooting Fiends and the remaining screamers (some died to shooting) charged out and hit 2 battle wagons and the boyz. After the dust settled thre boyz were dead, 1 wagon was immobile and the other was fine. The rest of my army moved over to support when the fiends get counter charged.

His Turn 3
The rest of his stuff rolls on. His warboss detaches from his bikes and charges fiends, he is killed before he gets to swing. The bikes come onout of charge range in attempt to shoot fateweaver. His last wagon with boyz comes in ready to charge at the crushers that I was using to countercharge when the mega nobz charge the bloodletters and horrors. Speaking of which the battle wagon with the nobz moves up and they unload ready to eat bloodletters. So heres where it goes wrong, the bikes fail their leadership test from changeling and have to shoot the boyz that are attempting to charge the crushers. Then the mega nobz charge the bloodletters after shooting them, lose 1 and wipe them. The boyz still attempted to hold up the crushers but with only 12 out of 20 and 18 WS 5 S 5 attacks going first they lost 7 did 1 wound in return and ran away. The crushers consolidate closer to the nobz. He had another squad of 20 boyz get out and charge the other squad of crusher, with me killing only 5 and him doing nothing thanks to fateweaver.

My Turn 4
Fiends and thirster fly over and eat the bikes. Crushers hop over and eat the mega nobz. The crushers clean up the remaining 15 orks.

The rest of the game is me catching wagons and opening them up, eventually i also got the tank bustas.

So I won with 1905 VP's he had a big mek hiding in a corner all 4 quarters, and 2 objectives.

Off to table 8 in th winners bracket!



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So round 2
Playing this guy Tim's footslogging bloodangle army.

He had 5 ten man tactical squads with tons of different weapons 3 10 man devesaters with 2 of like everything. A libby, 2 priests, and 3 units of single attack bikes.

Mission who cares I play daemons

Deploment who cares I play daemons but it was pitched for those who care.

I wan roll for turn and graciously gave it to him

He combat squaded everything and put it sprad through his deployment zone.

I want fateweaver thirster 1 squad of crushers 1 squad of fiends and 2 units of horrors 1 with changeling and the chaos gods smile upon me!

His Turn 1
uhh move up a bit

My Turn 1
I get my preferred wave and bust it out, spread out and shoot a bit doing much of nothing, I think I did manage to maim a 5 man squad and bolt an attack bike however.

His Turn 2
Shoot the piss out of me, accoplishing all of 3 wounds to a not fatweavered bloodthirster.

My Turn 2
more crushers show up, I charge killing 12 marines with the crushers and the thirsters charges a 10 man squad and libby and punches the libby, fateweaver charges in too to avoid being shot. He's in the middle of everything. Other stuff came in but I dont really care about it right now

His turn 2
he almost kill an entire crusher squad with everything shooting at it.

My turn 3
I rape signifigantly more of his army.

Because I'm a lazy piece of crap, I'm not going to bother writing this out, as both me and my opponent knew before we started that that tis game was over.

However, in all fairness to my opponent he did successfully manage to make a game out of it, where I figured I would just roll over him, and fof that I congratualte him.

I finished with 1800ish VP's 3 objectives, and all 4 quarters again!

Next round Dash of Peppers pink orks!

well as i met you at nova open (steven abel) i talked to you bit there gratz on the first 2 wins and i wot spoil rest for others but your first round opponent must have been mad as i tabeled him right after you almost did so grats on first 2 wins cant wait to see how 4th game went as i knowwhat happened third but wont spoil it(just dont know the details)

Hey yermom grats on first 2 games. I hear from John you nuked your phone at some point, did you get it working yet?

Also, did the screamers do anything for you at any point? They seem so lackluster for the large amount of points you pay for them.

ah, so thats why that ork player was really not in a great mood when i played him. thanks guys (btw.....his name was greg, not mike.....unless two people brought an identicle army list, which I doubt).

I dont think I saw your daemon army there though, altough I know the outcome of the dash game since he went 4-0 lol.

Nice work on the first 2 games tho

yeh the guy I played was the exact same list but his name was greg didnt notice yermom said mike lol but when I saw yermom after round 1 the guy across table was the guy I played so yermom I think you made a mistake with the name.

To answer your question Brad, the screamers did litterall nothing in my second game for obvious reasons, they really shined in my first when i was killing wagons, I was losing too hard against dash for it to matter, and againstmy 4th opponent they blew up a pirahna a devilfish and tied up some battle suits for a turn. All 9 of them only cost 144, well worth it IMO.

whoopsies sorry about that Greg* its been a long weekend...

Anywho my game with Dash.

His list
Gazghkull

Big mek KFF

3 battle wagons

15 burnas

16 boyz (in wagon)

12 boyz in trukk

7 diverse nobz

3 TL rokkit buggies

1 deffkopta buzz saw

1 deff kopta buzz saw

5 lootas

5 lootas

His Turn 1
He moves up the deployment is spearhead.

My Turn 1
I get my preferrred wave but crusher scatter toward his wagons stopping about 4 inches in front, fateweaver away from them 10, and bloodthirster 12 in a totally different direction, my shooting drops a loota squad.

His Turn 2
He takes full advantage of my poor scatters and charges into the heart of my army, burnas and ghazzy take care of my crushers 16 boyz and nobz bring down fateweaver, and shooting kills my screamers and horrors, and brings the thirster to 1 wound.

Chances of victory are small.

My Turn 2
Fiends charge the 16 man boyz squad with 36 attacks at S 5 and kill 8 for thos with calculaters in hand ill save you the trouble statistically I kill 13. Then he swings back and puts 7 wounds on me. Thirster charges the nobz and kills 3, 2 power kalws attacking back, 6 attacks, 4's to hit, 2's to wound, 4's to svae, 3 wounds left. He deals 3 wounds I fail three saves. Also 3 squads of horrors and the last screamers come in and kill 1 deff kopta.

Chances of victory dont exist.

His Turn 3
Table the remaing part of my army.

My Turn 3
Crushers and letters come in, in his back field.

His Turn 4
Mount up and head to the neew fight, fail with shooting.

My Turn 4
Charge crushers and kill 5 lootas and a deff kopta.

His Turn 5
He charges nobz burnas and ghazz into the crushers, I kill the nobz and put a wound on Ghaz, he rolls awfully and does like 3 back total. He also charged 12 boyz into my letters after shooting them and wiped them.

My Turn 5
Put another wound on Ghazzy and kill some burnas, now my crushers are hurting.

Time gets called I think and clearly Dash wins. I held no quarters, had no objectives. But don't stop reading yet I did make i tto day 2 I promise!

Yermom, I thought it was "Yermon" for the longest time.....hope you had a laugh at my expense at the Nova Open for being dim-witted.

rough loss there.....hurry up with the other games

This guy......Awesome army and way to help me show that Daemons can run with the big dogs Yermom! It was nice meeting you dude. I'll be back out that way for the next Nova

Hey Hulk! Your conversions were seriously stunning dude, great job! You and I wrecked face at this thing, and it was great meeting you! Can't wait to see you again next year, or maybe in Vegas

Hem so yermom me and mafty all fought greg and won. hem gang banged by dakkites much? watch his fourth fight show up to be another dakkite

Round 4 had me paired against a Tau player with a great looking army.

His list had

batttlesuit commander

3 units of 3 battlesuits

3 units of firewarriors 2 in devilfish

2 units of 15 kroot

3 individual units of piranahs

and 5 broadsides

I win the roll for first and give it off to him, e deploys all castled uo in a corner.

His Turn 1
He moves up a little.

My Turn 1
I get my prefered wave and come in about 16 inches from his army minor shotting stuns a pirannah.

His Turn 2
2 Shoot everything at fateweaver, I take 1 wound. He also boosts up the piranahs to right in my face as the first layer for me to get through.

My Turn 2
Horrors come in the backfield to hold objectives. Screamers and and crusher make short work of the pirannahs, bloodthirster and fatewweaver move to support. The fiends go thrrough a squad of kroot with a 22" charge.

His Turn 3
He pulls back and creates a kroot and drone wall for m to get through, then shoots at fatewever and pops him and puts some owundss on the bloodthirtser and bloodcrushers.

My Turn 3
Crushers come in and scatter into mishap and he places them in my backfield. I keep charging forward, the screamers charge a devilfish and kill it the thirster hops to an unoccupied space in his wall and kills a squad of 3 suits. The fiends and crushers kill all the drones and leftover kroot.

His Turn 4
He pulls back an throws devilfishes in my face. Then shoots and kills the thirester and erapid fires fire warriors and kills 3 fiends, and the battle suits kill all but 3 crushers which have wound on them.

My Turn 4
I bypass the devilfish wall with my crushers and fiends and kill some broadsides and 3 battlessuits. The fiends multi assualted to hit some fire warriors to make them lose combat and run, but they actually stayed. Morebloodletters show up to put more pressure on him. The screamers attempts to blow up the other fish.

His Turn 5
He shoots and wipes the crushers.

My Turn 5
Fiends killl the last of the fire warriors I onle had 1 left. Bloodletters charge rapinf another squad of battle suits and 5 screamers charge 8 firewarriors winning combat and wiping them.

His Turn 6
Move broadsides and shoott

My Turn 6
Proceed to table with bloodletters.

So I git full 2000 points, 4 quarters, 5 objerctives. It was just a rough match for my opponent.

So with 3 masacres and a pretty gakky loss I sneak into top 8 as 1 of the few 3-1 finishers to make it.

Sweet!! Looking forward to hearing about day 2

Yermom: Dash wanted me to ask you this:

Given the importance of the proximity of deepstriking models in a Fateweaver list, why don't you have any icons?

Plaguebearers can take icons, can't they? Can anything else? Also, do they work the turn they deepstrike?


Yeah. So he called me on the phone and wanted me to post that.

Icons don't work when you deepstrike. And Yermom probably has the same thought that I do. Paying 25pts for something that might not come when it's suppose to and doesn't work the turn it does is a waste when your trying to cram in more models.

DONT WORRY GUYS THE LAST BATTLE REPORT IS COMING!

I just flew in to Hawaii today for vacation, and am utterly exhauste and its really not on the top of my to do list, so youre gonna have to wait

Anyway, to answer Dash's questiion, they dont wirk the turn they come in otherwise yes it would remove half the risk of playing a fateweaver list. So, I have 2 icons in my whole list, 1 in each of my crusher squads, for 2 reasons. 1. BS wound allocation crap. 2. The icon is most useful for getting units in places you would otherwise not want to risk deepstriking. I often have the 1 crusher squad land turn 1, (hence why I NEVER put both crusher squads in the same wave, it makes the other too weak). Then the other crusher squad or the bloodletters, or hell even fateweaver if hes in the wave that I didn't get come off the icon right in the enemys face.

Giving plaugebearers or horrors an icon is a waste, they should be in the backfield holding stuff, in places where you don't care if your units scatter.

Okay I just read dash's battle report and his was a little more descriptive of your 3rd round game .

Did you think about going first instead of giving it to Dash? Against almost every ork army out there I like to go first if I can arrange it. The main reason I do it is because they can't waagh on the first turn, and especially against a kult list it means they can't spread out across the table to wait for you.

I also couldn't tell did you run fateweaver and the crusher's to try to get within the bubble or only the crusher's?

How often have you had fateweaver poof from the leadership test? It's the main reason I never use him because I just know I would fail it left and right. I'm always curious how other people feel about it.

Warmaster wrote:Okay I just read dash's battle report and his was a little more descriptive of your 3rd round game .

Did you think about going first instead of giving it to Dash? Against almost every ork army out there I like to go first if I can arrange it. The main reason I do it is because they can't waagh on the first turn, and especially against a kult list it means they can't spread out across the table to wait for you.

I also couldn't tell did you run fateweaver and the crusher's to try to get within the bubble or only the crusher's?

How often have you had fateweaver poof from the leadership test? It's the main reason I never use him because I just know I would fail it left and right. I'm always curious how other people feel about it.

If I recall correctly, Fateweaver ran a massive 1". The crushers tried running towards Fateweaver, and got a massive 2". They ended up about 6.5" from each other.

Yeah Dash has it right, bad run rolls + bad scatters were the end of me. Well I've probably plaed my fateweaver list about 20 times throughtout the summer, he's only flown on me 4 times. 2 times in this tournament (next round) one in a previous GT and once in a friedly game. If it helps the odds of failing a LD 9 test is around 13%. Given that you have to take it twice in most games, the odds go up to 26%. Just a thought.

It's really funny, I was in the bathroom this morning remembering my game with Dash, and thought to myself I should have gone first to deny his waggh! move. So yeah I'd say I agree with you about going first against orks.

Nice report and congratulations on your finish. You should have borrowed my extra camera to take pictures. I like your crusher conversions. I think I might post some pictures for you when I sort through them.

Kinda funny how we both played Dash and all posted reports.

I still think you should have Soul Grinders. The Battle cannon is good.

I wish I knew you had an extra camera pictures would have been awesome! And thanks, I'd really like if you could post some pics up for me

Grinders are too expensive to run in a fate crusher list. I just cant get everything I need. I guess I could cut the fiends and screamers for 2 of them, but losing the fiend just doesnt seem good to me. I wouldn't mind dropping the letters and screamers but that's still not enough for 2.

I thought I offered the camera to you too. I know Rich said it was too distracting to his playing. I should have picture of your round 1 game also but will find that later.

Yermom's Daemons on display board.