.... frustration.... (Primer)

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**TheGreatKevin465**

So, i usually prime my models with black gw primer. I recently started a blood angels army. i first primed them all black and tried painting red. obviously its really hard.

SO. i decided to use white instead. I first used simple green and bought a "plastic primer". After the primer had dried the primer white just literally scraped off.

Next i bought normal white primer by krylon sp?. i simple greened it again and sprayed it again. well its scraping off again.

I DONT KNOW WHY. ITS FRUSTRATING. halp?!

**insaniak**

Best guess would be that the model still has residue on it from the simple green. Try giving it a good scrub in soapy water.

Also, for what it's worth, you can get good results painting red over a black base, but you need to work down to it. Black, then Red Gore or Scab Red (I have a feeling one of those two doesn't exist anymore), then the Blood Red.

**TheGreatKevin465**

damn that simple green. isnt that simple if you asked me. but it does do a good job. Yeaahh i used to do mechrite red(foundation) red gore into blood red. but it STILL didnt come out as solid and bright as i wanted it to be. well... thanks again..

while i'm on the subject. how would you do the red over white? also i wanna know how you (the people) paint sanguinary priests. with the white over the red.

**Oreren**

scrub down the models in warm soapy water, let them dry then use GW skull white and watered down red gore, then dry brush blood red.

**Infneon**

Give them a good scrub and then get your hands on some Red Army painter, Blood Angels in minutes!

**Lennysmash**

+1 big time on the Army Painter spray primers. I've been using them for just over a year now. The coverage is excellent and the colours are very vivid. I use the Dragon Red primer from them and it gives me that initial brightness straight from the can.

Go on you know you want to, lol.

**Aerethan**

my 2 copper: mechrite red with blood red over it gives a fairly "animated" tone of red, a soft red if you will.

Blood red over a white primer will be VERY bright and as long as you use a thin wash should come out quite nicely for BA.

Alas, when all else fails, as others have mentioned use a red spray paint in the shade you want.

I myself prefer the rather smooth look of blood red over mechrite on black primer.

**Leigen_Zero**

With the reds you do need to build up the colour over time IMHO.

For the red on my boyz, i use black undercoat -> mechrite red, which I apply in several thin coats to get a solid base -> red gore (same application as mechrite) until I get a nice strong red -> highlight blood red.