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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 10:14:22
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Hey guys just wanted to share my second try on a 1500 pts of BA well at least the stuff i got. It might take a while to get other stuff but so far this is what i got and can play with any ideas or comments are welcome
HQ:
Reclusiarch
Total - 130 pts
Troops:
(5) Scouts
1 of them has a rocket
camo cloaks
Total - 115 pts
(5) Assult Squad
Sarge with Thunder hammer
Total - 130 pts
(7) Tactical Squad
Rocket for free
Sarge Storm bolter
Total - 125 Pts
Fast attack:
(1) Baal Predator
Heavy Flamers
Extra Armor
Total - 155 pts
(2) Land Speeders
Typhoon Missile
Assult Cannon
Total - 180 pts
Heavy Support:
(5) Devastator Squad
Rocket launcher
3 Plasma Cannons
Total - 145 Pts
(1) Dread
Lascannon
Missile Launcher
Total - 140 pts
Elites:
(1) Furioso Dread
Drop Pod
Total - 160 pts
(5) Assult Termies
Thunder hammer and Storm shields
Total - 225 pts
Grand Total of 1505 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 10:28:14
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Legendary Dogfighter
Garden Grove, CA
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1. In order to take a ML in a tac squad you need 10 men.
2. What is the Baal armed with? TL-AC or Flamestorm? Either way, like Leman Russes, Baal's with sponsons are slow. And a Baal relies on speed. So drop the sponsons and EA is generally bleh.
3. You seem to be lacking long range anti-tank, the plasma cannons in the dev squad while very, very nice, is about as useful as a bolt pistol versus vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 10:48:37
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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5 man assault squad is a waste of time.
No Sanguinary Priests in a BA list makes no sense.
Tac squads are a poor option in a Vanilla marine list in a BA list they are woeful. Plus you can't take any Special or Heavy weapons until you are the full 10 men.
So none of your troops choices do anything. Not mechanised Tac squads are even more awful. The only remotely good thing is the objective camping Scouts. Just don't expect them to ever kill anything. I hope they've got sniper rifles right?
You have no anti-tank of any real description. 1 Drop pod is rarely a good idea, dropping the dread in unsupported on turn 1 is a good way to get rid of 200 points for literally no gain.
Typhoons are OK but don't spend the points on the assault cannon they need to keep their distance and snipe.
Heavy flamer sponsons are a waste on the Baal. they'll rarely get to fire at all and when they do they will rarely do so with much force and you'll never get to fire both. Keep the Baal moving 12" and firing 1 gun is your best bet. If you HAVE to take sponsons get the heavy bolters.
Devastators are again a poor option in a Vanilla list let alone BA list. You need to be focused on assault. Devastators rea just hugely over priced heavy weapons. Take 2 normal Preds with Las-sponsons instead of Devastators always.
Assault Terminators are great but with no LR they may literally never make combat. Also again you're missing a trick with no SP to give them FnP. FnP on a 2+/3++ model is ludicrously good. Hammernators only real weakness is volume of dice (very few things can do enough high AP wounds to really worry them) and FnP cuts that out.
This feels more like a poor attempt at a Vanilla list than a BA list at all. I'd honestly start from scratch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 10:48:55
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Ok I did A couple of Tweaks from what you said and i got 1510 pts
changes are
10 men squad with rocket 170 pts
Baal Predator with FlameStorm Cannon 115 pts
Changes only did a 5 point difference. Also 2nd time im going to play so thats why i got that list lol and for anti tank I got my dread with Lascannon and Missile Launcher Plus 6 missile shots all together I think haha
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ok Im Probably going to need a lot of help to come up with something ok with what i have. Like i said I wont be getting New models anytime soon till next bonus might be a couple of months lol
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/28 10:55:05
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 11:06:03
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, as far as I understand it, its the list made of the models you have.
Your collection is a good starting point but I'd recommend to post a list which you wanna play.
Scouts and Tacticals have no place in a BA army.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 11:07:38
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Soooo For troops it would better to have Assult Squads and Death company? maybe a death company Dread?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/28 11:20:54
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, I'd start with Assault Marines. You need to decide if you want to go with jump packs or mounted in transport.
The DC should be transported anyway, otherwise, it would be too unpredictable.
By the way, the subforum on tactics provides some recent threads about BA.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/29 06:38:58
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Giving it another try!! here we go!
HQ
Reclusiarch with 5 Vanguard Vets
hammer
2 power weapons
jumpacks
total - 365
Elites
Furioso dread with pod
extra armor
total - 175 pts
5 assult terminators
t/s
total - 225 pts
2 priests
1 for termies
1 for HQ
total 100 pts
fast attack
2 speeders
typhoon
assult
total - 180 pts
Baal pred with flamecannon
total - 115 pts
Anti Tank
2 attack bikes with multi meltas
total - 100 pts
Troops
Assult squad (10)
power fist
total 125 pts
5 scouts snipers
camo cloaks
1 rocket
total 100 pts
final cost - 1510 pts!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/29 06:48:38
Subject: 2nd Try on 1500 BA
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Lord of the Fleet
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hmm in 1500, I would try to get in 1 or more extra troops. ones that can rush up to get objectives. plus list is illegal. you have 4 fast attack choices. I would get rid of vanguard in favor of more assault marines. switch out the assault cannon on landspeeder for another typhoon launcher to be more versatile. I dont think the termies would fare well here without a land raider. maybe they should be let go. also this list is lacking in melta. I suggest giving assault marines a few.
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