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Simple question why are orcs in whfb spelled wih a c , whereas orks in 40k are spelled wth a k , i hough i migh be to help seperate them from a tecnicahl overview , what do you people think?

'claw

blackclaw1 wrote:Simple question why are orcs in whfb spelled wih a c , whereas orks in 40k are spelled wth a k , i hough i migh be to help seperate them from a tecnicahl overview , what do you people think?

'claw

It's to make them easily distinguishable from each other. Which is what you said, kinda.

I guess it's a design thing they went with in order to try to make them a little bit different from each other. Never really thought about it Orcs/Orks is Orcs/Orks and all.

thought so i just wondered if there was a fluff reason or something i didn't pick up on.

blackclaw1 wrote:thought so i just wondered if there was a fluff reason or something i didn't pick up on.

There is.

Orks in 40k are just similar to the characteristics of Orcs in WHFB. They're both violent, clan driven, and fight in huge hordes with primitive-ish weaponry and Gork/Mork's favor.

That's where the similarities end.

Orks in 40k are fungus based lifeforms created by the Old Ones, repopulating by dropping spores that will grow into new Orkoid lifeforms as an "adult" Ork dies.
Orcs in Fantasy are your stereotypical D&D styled Orcs. Violent, clan driven, fight in hordes following a particularly strong warboss...and of course, reproduce sexually rather than asexually(which is the key difference here).

Kanluwen wrote:

blackclaw1 wrote:thought so i just wondered if there was a fluff reason or something i didn't pick up on.

There is.

Orks in 40k are just similar to the characteristics of Orcs in WHFB. They're both violent, clan driven, and fight in huge hordes with primitive-ish weaponry and Gork/Mork's favor.

That's where the similarities end.

Orks in 40k are fungus based lifeforms created by the Old Ones, repopulating by dropping spores that will grow into new Orkoid lifeforms as an "adult" Ork dies.
Orcs in Fantasy are your stereotypical D&D styled Orcs. Violent, clan driven, fight in hordes following a particularly strong warboss...and of course, reproduce sexually rather than asexually(which is the key difference here).

So are Orcs hermaphrodites or are there female orcs in the fluff and all?

sbrook129 wrote:
So are Orcs hermaphrodites or are there female orcs in the fluff and all?

Female Orcs *shudder*.
Though I guess nothing gets uglier than the female ogres >.<

Kanluwen wrote:

Orks in 40k are fungus based lifeforms created by the Old Ones, repopulating by dropping spores that will grow into new Orkoid lifeforms as an "adult" Ork dies.
Orcs in Fantasy are your stereotypical D&D styled Orcs. Violent, clan driven, fight in hordes following a particularly strong warboss...and of course, reproduce sexually rather than asexually(which is the key difference here).

Not so anymore. Warhammer online has made fantasy greenskins 'fungus-based' and almost the exact same as the 40k origins.

Basically fantasys official stance is 'ambiguity' and the modern orc does not explicitly reproduce sexually and there are no females anywhere.

Yup. As far as I am aware Orks and Orcs are both big, green G.I. Joes.

Just don't get the two confused. If you say 'Orcs,' people will expect you to talk about WHFB. If you say 'Orks,' people will expect you to speak of WH40k.

I dunno if this still happens, but I used to see a lot of nerd rage when people referred to 40k Orks as Orcs.

I think they're called "Orks" because they're supposed to be a futuristic alien of "Orcs".

Trilobite wrote:

sbrook129 wrote:
So are Orcs hermaphrodites or are there female orcs in the fluff and all?

Female Orcs *shudder*.
Though I guess nothing gets uglier than the female ogres >.<

Dunno. There is the orc cheerleader from Blood Bowl...

I don't think Orc females exist anymore, as I'm aware Orcs have become a fungal based race just like there futuristic companions. Although I doesn't say there's no female Orcs so they might be able to reproduce both sexually and asexually at least

that would allow them rape some of the more good looking Empire "villagers".

Cheesecat wrote:that would allow them rape some of the more good looking Empire "villagers".

That is quite a sick thought on its own. The fact you added a at the end is even more disturbing.

Orks in 40k are fungus based lifeforms created by the Old Ones, repopulating by dropping spores that will grow into new Orkoid lifeforms as an "adult" Ork dies.
Orcs in Fantasy are your stereotypical D&D styled Orcs. Violent, clan driven, fight in hordes following a particularly strong warboss...and of course, reproduce sexually rather than asexually(which is the key difference here).

Warhammer Online qualified this, the orcs in the game do reproduce fungally.

Were not the Black Orcs however created by the chaos dwarves as servants? I believe I read that somewhere or other.

Unless they changed it, yeah Black Orcs are supposed to "reproduce" normally. It's mentioned that Black Orcs are the result of generations of careful breeding by the Chaos Dwarves.

wizard12 wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:that would allow them rape some of the more good looking Empire "villagers".

That is quite a sick thought on its own. The fact you added a at the end is even more disturbing.

Well it's better than banging Female Orcs.

I think it's because Orcs in Fantasy didn't name themselves, they adopted the name the humans referred to them as and interpreted their own spelling now that their intelligence had evolved.

That's just my take.

Kanluwen wrote:

Orks in 40k are fungus based lifeforms created by the Old Ones, repopulating by dropping spores that will grow into new Orkoid lifeforms as an "adult" Ork dies.
Orcs in Fantasy are your stereotypical D&D styled Orcs. Violent, clan driven, fight in hordes following a particularly strong warboss...and of course, reproduce sexually rather than asexually(which is the key difference here).

Not quite. the orcs on the old world arrived as spores on the ships of the old ones, so they were, at least, at one point the same sort of breed.

Of course the krork genus is very adaptable and they may well have adapted in numerous ways over the millennia.

I thought that GW had retconned all the fluff that left the Warhammer world in the 40k galaxy? In the originals wasn't it in the eye of terror or something? All the red shirts at my local stores have a deny on hearing policy where as I know that that, or something similiar, used to be the case.

It appears that they are separate universes, but they are or can be connected via the warp and its multidimensional loveliness.

..which is very handy for licensing purposes I guess.

I don't think it was ever officlially in the EOT, but they always used to throw hints or nods of the head in that direction -- see the new "magic" items up for grabs after the Albion campaign.

It's all because of the influence of Mortal Kombat-the 40k orks started playing the game, realized how much cooler everything was by being spelled with a 'k' rather than a 'c' and they switched their names too. I figured it out gents, problem solved. Fantasy orcs existed long before Mortal Kombat and never had a chance to play and make their names cooler. Poor, poor orcs

An apology-I got very little sleep last night and lack of sleep causes disturbing thoughts to pop out of my mouth (or in this case fingers)

timetowaste85 wrote:It's all because of the influence of Mortal Kombat-the 40k orks started playing the game, realized how much cooler everything was by being spelled with a 'k' rather than a 'c' and they switched their names too. I figured it out gents, problem solved. Fantasy orcs existed long before Mortal Kombat and never had a chance to play and make their names cooler. Poor, poor orcs

An apology-I got very little sleep last night and lack of sleep causes disturbing thoughts to pop out of my mouth (or in this case fingers)

hahahaha that's it!

I was told that the spelling was altered to aid the mail room trolls and reduce the possibility of mixed up shipping.