A 'Different' Ork Unit

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**Atode**

Mad Dok Grotsnik with mega nobs and a warphead =
fearless, 2W models with a 2+/5+ and a 4+ FNP roll, and provided you're a lucky roller they can deep strike.

Seems like it would be funny to try out, or at least test in a leisurely game. Has anyone already tried this combination or anything of the likes?

**sn0zcumb3r**

The Mad Dok with the Meganobz is quite a powerfull unit. However the Mad Dok must attempt to assault the nearest target which doesnt mix well with the warpheads powers. Also once they have deep struck then they can't assault and they certainly aren't good at shooting...

**Ail-Shan**

If Mad Dok just gives rage than you don't have to assault the nearest unit, just move towards it.

That would be powerfully resilient, except it still dies to a demolisher cannon or pulse laser fire, and is rather expensive, especially with SnP.

**svendrex**

The Mad Doc has rage +1. He must always move as far as possible toward the nearest enemy, assaulting if possible.

**Atode**

Yes I did omit that fact that Mad Dok does have rage, my reasoning was the fact that close combat is where the nobs want to be anyways.

Have any of you guys actually fielded this concoction of troops in a game? And with what results.

**sn0zcumb3r**

The Mad Dok with the Nobz does well. It is not worth it's points IMHO however and can be goaded around by your opponet. A transport of some sort is mandatory.
With a Warphead it just wont work. He can be singled out in melee which means that 2 wounds =85 poins of damage
and his powers dont help the squad very much (pretty much only warpath is good for them the rest is either neutral or bad.)
With the combo you suggest you have also used up both your HQ slots for a deathstar unit which is a bit on the weak side (due too the warpead)
2 more meganobz would be better

**Miraclefish**

Having an assaulty unit that has to move towards the enemy which repeatedly deep strikes AND is slow and purposeful is pretty confused. Sod the Mad Dok, get a Painboy and trust in the Waaaaagh!

**sn0zcumb3r**

Meganobz don't get a painboy..

**Nurglitch**

Better to stick a Warphead in a unit of Flashgitz with a Painboy.

**alanedomain**

+1 To what Nurglitch said. Deep Striking Snazzguns are always a surprise and can wreak havoc on rear armor. You don't even need all that many Flashgitz, either, something like five will do.

**KingCracker**

alanedomain wrote:+1 To what Nurglitch said. Deep Striking Snazzguns are always a surprise and can wreak havoc on rear armor. You don't even need all that many Flashgitz, either, something like five will do.

Or you can use those FlashGits for what they are really used for and take out troops in mass quantity. I never understood why people were so SHOOT VEHICLES WITH THEM, oh yea they suck at that though.
Gits a re perfect for anti troop. So stick a warphead in there as mentioned, and deepstrike them boyz in range of a "scary" squad and laugh as they get mowed down. And for the love of GOD do not give them Blastas, nothing more useless then an upgrade that kills off your mob in no time. I dunno what it is, but everytime Ive used that upgrade, they kill themselves. Thats just the way of it

**QuietOrkmi**

Stop mentioning the flashgits! There is too much cover available for them to be good!

Instead of a Warphead, try Ghazghkull and now you have a unit that can take on an army by itself through multi-assault.

On Grotsnik, does he have to be able to draw LOS to the unit or is it just the closest one? (Grotsnik reaches out into the force and feels a presences his eyes cannot detect, "Thata 'Ay Boyz!")

**sn0zcumb3r**

Hehe Grotsnik doesn't need LOS! He has homing instincts much like a pigeon... with a powerklaw..

**MagicJuggler**

People are advocating Flash Gimps? Really now Dakka, I am disappoint.

**QuietOrkmi**

Now now, I think dakka rolled a :1: on their "don't push that" and flashgits were being mentioned in a positive fashion.

**ChrisCP**

Oi, whos complaing about gets hot for 5pts?
That's like a 1, a 4+ armour and a 4+ fnp on a two wound model... like only 4.16~% chance to take one wound and only 0.001736 to instagib a guy from a double gets hot ^_^... unless my maths has gone all orkie

**Thaanos**

You don't get saves for Get's Hot! You just automatically take the wound.

**Illumini**

Thaanos wrote:You don't get saves for Get's Hot! You just automatically take the wound.

You get a save (and FNP if you have that)

**Eyclonus**

It still doesn't fix the fact that the cost too much!

**Atode**

Haha I do agree with everyone when the only 2 skills the warphead have that are relevant to the meganobz themselves are a 5 and a 6. I just thought deepstriking meganobs would be a fun unit to play.

**QuietOrkmi**

It might be, but 3 MegaNobz that are individually equip coming out of a Battle wagon is much more reliable. With Grotsnik, they do indeed wreck units.

Awhile back, before I leaned of "complex Units" I ran the following unit in my Mech List.

For 870 Points (750 Points for the unit)
Ghaz, Grotsnik, 8 Meganobz with cybork armor, in a Battlewagon with a Deff Rolla, Big Shoota, and Red Paint.

They were the spear-head of my force as they would disembark and multi-assault entire arrmies with the 2" disembark, 2d6 pick highest, and 6" run. The rest of my army just cleaned up.

**vikings vs mafia**

You can only move after disembarking if you didn't move your transport. Do you zoom the transport up first and then stay inside it for a turn? That doesn't seem like a good strategy.

**Ail-Shan**

battlewagons are open topped so you can assault out of them. True you can't move but he was correct with his distances.

**Dashofpepper**

This whole thread makes the Ork in me cry. :(

**QuietOrkmi**

Sorry Dash, The lad wants meganobz, The lad wants Grotsnik... at least he wont run flashgits and will hopefully realize that...

Battlewagon > Warphead in terms of reliability, and speed...