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will be made using converted kroxigors, scary idea, I know, but it's going to look awesome. Will it ever be builit? Not for a LONG LONG time.

Lord
tyrant [306] [thundermace, Enchanted Shield, Dawn Stone, wallcrusher, Heavy armor]

Heroes
Bruiser [170] [Battle Standard, Banner of swiftness]

core

9 Ironguts [482] [Full Command]
14 bulls [652] [Full Command]
20 Gnoblar Fighters [40]



Rare
Slave Giant [175]
slave Giant [175]

Toatal: 2000

Two tyrants - WHOA

This is some balls out stuff, good luck to you. I'd say use the last 15 points to buy the ironguts a magic standard from the BRB, like MR(1) or +1M

Props on the modeling idea too, I love me some krox and use them as ogres and dragon ogres in my chaos army

- Salvage

Hmm I dont have much expertise on ogres but what do slave giants do that normal giants dont?

i really love the idea of the army, please make a P&M blog when you start it.

i think more models would be better so take out a tyrant or a slavegiant and put in more bulls.

Sageheart wrote:i really love the idea of the army, please make a P&M blog when you start it.

i think more models would be better so take out a tyrant or a slavegiant and put in more bulls.

Lol. In ten years, because that's at least a $650 army after the conversion bits.


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Maybe if Lizards get a new army book sometime soon and new kroxies to go with it.

Ok, besides my initial pantsplosion, I know from experience that you want a BSB in the army. Should make for fun conversion times, but def consider swapping a tyrant for a bruiser BSB. You'll also have more points allotment to dump into the tyrant to make him truly mean, instead of sorta so-so like now.

- Salvage

Just throwing this out there – TENDERIZAH!!!

Wow that's a great army idea. You could even use skinks as gnoblars.

kenshin620 wrote:Hmm I dont have much expertise on ogres but what do slave giants do that normal giants dont?

they arn't stubborn and are much cheaper. and some of their attacks are more destructive.


@OP: 2 tyrants is NONO.

you can only have 0-1 tyrants and no the new FAQ did NOT remove any of those restrictions.


personally i would swap the illegal tyrant for a Slaughter master.

drop the IGs for another unit of 6 bulls. get ironfists on your bulls and drop the Crushers, they are a point sink. a 1/3 price increase over a normal bull for 1 extra attack is bad.


Lord
tyrant [250] [enchanted Shield, Sword of Strife, Ironcurse Icon]
Slaughter master [205] (sword of slaying)

Heros
Bruiser [198] (BSB, Cathayen Longsword, Armor of Fortune)

core

6 bulls [250] (Ironfists, Bellower)
14 bulls [702] [Bellower, Standard, Ironfists]
22 Gnoblar fighters [44]

Rare
Slave Giant [175]
slave Giant [175]

total: 1999

here is a more optimized list based of what you had. with Ironfists your bulls can either get +1 attack OR a 6+ ward save in CC.

you now have Gutmagic(very strong now) you can now stack your buffs on units and even have the same buff multiple times on the same unit(T6 bulls are nasty)

BSBs are almost MANDATORY now. rerolling your Ld is golden especially if you are stubborn from being steadfast.

for more check out www.ogrestronghold.com

DOH @ 2 tyrants being illegal, you're totally right GT

But do recall that ogre BSB's can't take any mundane weapons, as they're a pre-HE book

- Salvage

They couldn't take any mundane items, but the FAQ removed that line.

and as long as they don't take a magic banner they may take magic items/bignames up to 50 points total.

I don't know that I could do gut magic as there are no priests that are kroxigors, most of the priests I could use would be gnoblar types.

Or you could have a suer ancient krox who after centuries of living in the jngle has made a spiritual connection with Sotek himself.

yeah, oooh or a slann, they're big enough right?

Yea, altho coming up with an explanation how that moutionless frog got so killy is a wee bit harder.

They're already str 5, with access to spells that can make them very killy.

Its a different base size but could still work out nicely, you plan to convert most everything anyway, why listen to a bunch of web trolls with no guts to do it themselves

HoverBoy wrote:Its a different base size but could still work out nicely, you plan to convert most everything anyway, why listen to a bunch of web trolls with no guts to do it themselves

Because I'm insane and so are most of my ideas, so I use the internets opinion to keep my army ideas somewhat grounded.

Well if you use a slann just don't make him float on that smaller base he has a hard enough time staying up already.

I don't know the sotek krox sounds rather nice.

Cools i'll be glad to help with fluff if you have a writers block or somethin just PM me.

go with the krok priest that sounds amazing!

Grey Templar wrote:They couldn't take any mundane items, but the FAQ removed that line.

and as long as they don't take a magic banner they may take magic items/bignames up to 50 points total.

Whoa really? I just noticed that. Is that for all armies or just them?

I love the conversion idea, as I think kroxigor are awesome! Tempted to get a few myself. I'm not sure how this compares to ogres in price, but it'd be worth it imho. Not a huge fan of the ogre look... and minotaurs as ogres is much more common than this idea!

I love the idea. I won't try it myself as:

A- I don't have the time n'or money to convert an army like this

B- I really like the current Ogre models

C- I wouldn't want to put loads of time and money into an army I hardly play anyway, no matter how awesome they look

Looking forward to seeing how you get on with your project though =D

Oshova

gendoikari87 wrote:I don't know that I could do gut magic as there are no priests that are kroxigors, most of the priests I could use would be gnoblar types.

Maybe have a combo model, where you have a krox with a skink priest riding on his back? That way the krox bashing the stuffing out of anything that comes near it while the skink is casting spells on his enemies?

Redeemer31 wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:I don't know that I could do gut magic as there are no priests that are kroxigors, most of the priests I could use would be gnoblar types.

Maybe have a combo model, where you have a krox with a skink priest riding on his back? That way the krox bashing the stuffing out of anything that comes near it while the skink is casting spells on his enemies?

Ah then it made sense with the ogre magic risk right? cant remember much but isnt there a chance that with ogre magic the mage does damage to himself? he accidentally whacked the priest!

kenshin620 wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:They couldn't take any mundane items, but the FAQ removed that line.

and as long as they don't take a magic banner they may take magic items/bignames up to 50 points total.

Whoa really? I just noticed that. Is that for all armies or just them?

Just them

gutmagic buffs also stack now(with multiples of the same spell being allowed)

yes, T8, 9, or even 10 ogres is possable.


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kenshin620 wrote:

Redeemer31 wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:I don't know that I could do gut magic as there are no priests that are kroxigors, most of the priests I could use would be gnoblar types.

Maybe have a combo model, where you have a krox with a skink priest riding on his back? That way the krox bashing the stuffing out of anything that comes near it while the skink is casting spells on his enemies?

Ah then it made sense with the ogre magic risk right? cant remember much but isnt there a chance that with ogre magic the mage does damage to himself? he accidentally whacked the priest!

Close...

most of the spells involve the Butcher taking a hit at a certain Str. only Trollguts causes an autowound, but the Halfling cook book is great for this instance.

against all the other spells he can Bloodgruel himself back up.

I really Like this idea... Dang it why does this army have to be so expensive! GW MAKE PLATIC KROXIGORS!!!!!

As for the gut magic issue, if you can find an original 5th ed slaan model with the TG carrying him then that could explain where the combat portion of the stats come from. Just picture the four of them drop the slaan and fight for him.

The 'master blaster' skink on a krox model idea is also a good one.