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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 14:32:46
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Legendary Dogfighter
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This may be a weird question but can a human and and eldar reproduce? and do they have a similar DNA? As they look quite alike sept for the ears and culture.
I may say it would be unlikely to happen. But maybe if they were darkeldar I can see a situation that would involve contact between the two races.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 14:41:12
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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No.
Eldar have Quintuple Helix DNA, while Humans have a Double Helix DNA.
They are genetically incompatible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 14:41:28
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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They probably could, but to be honest both kind would probably be repulsed at the thought of intercourse with the other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 14:46:13
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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RogueSangre
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In the Rogue Trader era there was a Librarian that was Half Eldar. Such a thing would be nigh impossible these days, as Space Marine candidates are genetically screened. Deviation from "normal" human DNA would exclude the candidate from training, if not sentence him to death for the crime of mutation.
I also remember reading something that states Eldar mates must copulate several times over the course of the pregnancy in order to reproduce. That alone suggests that their DNA makes them more than simply "pointy-eared freaks." While both species may be anatomically compatible, I am doubtful that they would be genetically so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 14:47:31
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Legendary Dogfighter
Australia
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Good to see some serious answers here  So they are genically diffrent not able to produce young.
I would of thought they could produce a hybrid like a mule or a lyger being that they are sterile but from what you said melissia it would be impossible to reproduce at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 14:47:34
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Yes, and in Rogue Trader, the titular Rogue Traders commanded companies of Space Marines and regiments of Imperial Guard.
Rogue Trader cannot reliably be taken as canon anymore you know...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 14:53:57
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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RogueSangre
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Agreed. Most things from RT have been retconned. I simply enjoy passing on nuggets like that from an earlier age.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 15:02:29
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Major
Middle Earth
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Considering we are on this topic, does the same apply for humans and Tau?
I know they're closer genetically but the Tau have cobalt instead of iron in their blood.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 15:12:22
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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I'm not even sure if Tau are mammals...
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 15:14:08
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Melissia wrote:I'm not even sure if Tau are mammals...
They probably are mammals but i doubt if they're anywhere near compatible with humans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 15:19:06
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Painting Within the Lines
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Just think of the circumstances that two individuals of differant races come into contact in the Warhammer 40k universe:
1) On the battlefield. Unlikely to have sex there, if they do the mother would have to survive.
Implausible.
2) Diplomatic meetings. Those are very scarce and diplomats would know the implications of "sleeping with the enemy", literally.
Implausible.
3) On homeworlds. Yeah, I'd like to see how long a human settlement indoctrinated by the Inquisition would allow a alien to live amongst them. And Eldar wouldn't let a human on their Craftworld, not even as a prisoner.
Implausible.
I don't know about the genetics, but the situations for inter-specie sexy-time are very, VERY unlikely to happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 15:26:09
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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RogueSangre
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Tau is an interesting question. Eldar and Humans have, on the exterior, many similarities. Toed feet, 5 fingers, and melanin-based pigmentation that goes from pale-pinks to dark browns, and most importantly, obvious sexual dimorphism. Tau on the other hand, are hooved, 4 fingered, blue, and the level of sexual dimorphism is debatable. The one known female Tau model has a slightly different face-slit that what we are largely sure are males, and her suit suggests nothing alluding to the human definition of a mammary gland. (i.e. boobs.) Hell, we aren't even sure how Tau reproduce. They are bipedal, so genitalia in a location similar to humans is possible, but for all we know, Tau reproduce by slamming their face-slits against each other. What's more, the above only deals with Fire Caste and Ethereal models, and to a lesser extant, Air Caste. There is, to my knowledge, no deceptions of Water or Earth Caste physiology. We don't even know the results of inter-caste breeding, never mind inter species. So lets assume that Tau come in both sausage and taco varieties, and that their genetic makeup is stable enough to produce inter-caste offspring. There's no way that a human/tau fetus could come to term, due to the above mentioned anatomical differences. You'd have about as much luck as painting a two legged cow blue and having a proper go at it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 15:30:26
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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It says a few times in the fluff that the Eldar look fairly human, but are as alien as anything else out there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 15:30:29
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Water Caste is roughly as tall as Fire Caste if not a bit taller, and possibly a bit more slender.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 19:46:58
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Calm Celestian
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Phloop wrote:Just think of the circumstances that two individuals of differant races come into contact in the Warhammer 40k universe:
1) On the battlefield. Unlikely to have sex there, if they do the mother would have to survive.
Implausible.
2) Diplomatic meetings. Those are very scarce and diplomats would know the implications of "sleeping with the enemy", literally.
Implausible.
3) On homeworlds. Yeah, I'd like to see how long a human settlement indoctrinated by the Inquisition would allow a alien to live amongst them. And Eldar wouldn't let a human on their Craftworld, not even as a prisoner.
Implausible.
I don't know about the genetics, but the situations for inter-specie sexy-time are very, VERY unlikely to happen.
With those points put aside, we all know because of those three points it would never happen we're referring to the possibility of reproduction theoretically.
Melissia wrote:No.
Eldar have Quintuple Helix DNA, while Humans have a Double Helix DNA.
They are genetically incompatible.
And in theory this is the end result, with all points put aside. Humans and Eldar are simply genetically incompatible, also with the differences in how humans and eldar reproduce. Humans only need to do it once to conceive, where as eldar have the initial "seeding" and several more applications afterward. While Eldar are very human looking beneath all of that they are quite alien.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 19:58:59
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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It's always possible that the species might end up mating in some situation or other. Maybe they both need comfort in a time of desperation. Weirder things have happened. But no viable child would come of it, if any at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 21:47:29
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Step away from that Howling Banshee Yak9, she's NOT smiling because she's happy to see you!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 21:48:53
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Oberfeldwebel
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Brotherjulian wrote: Step away from that Howling Banshee Yak9, she's NOT smiling because she's happy to see you!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 21:52:20
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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O'emperor!!!
not this thread again
Final answer, as has been discussed to death, Shot, brought back to life, and shot again, on other threads has been nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 21:55:03
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Proud Phantom Titan
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Genetic basic ... if you have one chromosome more or less the child will be deformed (Down syndrome). This is because the Genome is the instructions to build us you cannot easily add or remove from this without breaking it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 21:55:24
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Oberfeldwebel
Palma de Mallorca, Spain
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Grey Templar wrote:O'emperor!!!
not this thread again
Final answer, as has been discussed to death, Shot, brought back to life, and shot again, on other threads has been nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
is the first one i've seen of this kind.... but, well, is a bit freak, but still as freak as some other themes, the only difference is the kind of answers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 21:59:13
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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in the last year there have been at least 2.
RT had interspecies reproduction, but all the fluff from those days has been destroyed.
GW has said many times that interspecies reproduction is impossable in the current fluff.
if you want 1/2 elves go play DnD or LotR.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 22:00:13
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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The internet has decided that Eldar-Human crossbreeding is perfectly legitimate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 22:01:57
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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i hate this thread. Its like a vampire....
Wheres buffy when you need her? Or blade...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 22:02:02
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I agree that Eldar and Humans coulden't reproduce under normal circumstances but just as an idea what about genetic manipulation? And I think we should refer to this theoretical offspring as a Hudar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 22:03:24
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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4Chan is NOT a legit fluff source.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 22:06:07
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Oberfeldwebel
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Grey Templar wrote:4Chan is NOT a legit fluff source.
maybe.... but what about fun-source?
i like to adjust things to the fluff, but sometimes, or more often, is good to make shut up the "inquisitor" within...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 22:07:20
Subject: Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Proud Phantom Titan
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Manchu wrote:The internet has decided that Eldar-Human crossbreeding is perfectly legitimate.
... the internet has decided lots of things ... many of them very very wrong ... beware the internet for it will answer yes, no and maybe (ok and more likely No0b!11!!12 RolF)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 22:07:47
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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@Black Corsair: that sir is
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/12 22:10:24
Subject: Re:Can Humans and Eldar reproduce?
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Oberfeldwebel
Palma de Mallorca, Spain
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Purge me.... if you can
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2000 foot sloging IG
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