so what makes Death Korp different from normal guard?

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**Darwin_green**

I'm humoring the idea of picking up the guard, but I don't plan on using the forge-world models since i've seen really impressive stuff done with cadians and Pig-iron stuff.

So what am I sacrificing from a normal guard force by using the krieg rules, and what do I gain. I always want to do a nice gunline army supported by big guns so I don't think it would be hard for me to make a list that could work with either list.

**Eyclonus**

Look up the army list rules on the FW website.

**Jaon**

I am under the impression there are no free rules given out for them? If there are, link please.

**Jihadnik**

Erm...there are definity rules for them on thier website, I got them a few weeks ago in a nice PDF file!

Sorry though, I'm too much of a noob to put in a link!

**Darwin_green**

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/k/kreig.pdf

it's available on the forgeworld site, so I don't think there should be any issues about posting it here.

**H.B.M.C.**

They're to scale with Marine models?

**Gwar!**

I have to admit, I rather like the DKoK rules.

**Darwin_green**

Ok, so you basically get immobile versions of most common artillery like griffin mortars(heavy mortars), and medusa's and basilisks. they are a little cheaper though.

Basic squads get +1 weapon skill and stubborn, but lose heavy weapons in your average platoons.

You still get access to staples like hellhounds, and leman russ's.

**erwos**

This requires some correction.

Darwin_green wrote:Ok, so you basically get immobile versions of most common artillery like griffin mortars(heavy mortars), and medusa's and basilisks. they are a little cheaper though.

Normal guard armies can take these, too, as far as I know. They're all in the IA books. Same goes for breaching drills - I have three and don't play DKoK.

You still get access to staples like hellhounds, and leman russ's.

But no chimeras, which is a rather painful loss.

You also get access to engineers, which, depending on your view, might be a bit better or worse than veterans.

**Lord Manimal**

Wait a second, no chimeras? Am I missing something? Grr.... gonna have to re-read that list.

EDIT: Holy crap, I was reading Centaur as Chimera. Well this is going to change my army build plans.... lol

**erwos**

Yes, who would have thought that FW would release a list that required buying masses of models from them?