Mierce Miniatures Darklands Ongoing News and Rumors Thread! Darklands Rulebook ships on April 18!

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**Mierce Miniatures**

@Azreal - mate I am exactly the same, I need something physical. You could, of course, print the rules out...!

The QS rules won't be long in printing now.

Regarding more fluff, that is coming, but time is my enemy I am afraid. Unfortunately it's all I can do to get "the basics" out there right now!

Cheers

**Azreal13**

Like I said, printing not an option right now, I had to skip my last printer because it got used so little that the ink dried in the print head to the point it was irretrievable.

You can understand I'm in no hurry to spend cash on something I normally use so little!

Happy to wait for the full book TBH, if I am fairly sensible with my painting time it should line up nicely with getting all my models painted up.

**prankster**

Update #22 Apr 3 2014
Hosts, and what you can get your hands on post-project!

There's been a bit of confusion as to what you can expect from this project after it actually ends - i.e., how you can spend your money - so here's a rundown.

It is worth noting that you can can add the costs of the existing or KS2 products to your pledge here. It will get us all more from this project!

Existing Miniatures

When this project ends, you will be given access to a special "Kickstarter category" on the Mierce Miniatures website, where you can manage your pledge.

As well as the items from this project (which you can purchase right up until they are shipped) you will have the opportunity to purchase the following from this category, until the end of May 2014:

any product that is currently released to the general public, at 20% off the UK RRP
any product not yet released that was part of the Darklands: a World of War project, at 20% off the UK RRP
any product from the Darklands: First Edition project, at that project's prices (including the free foot general with the mounted general deal)
any encounter host or skirmish host from the Darklands: First Edition project, at the host's prices
the "Darklands, Uhtred & Nobles" reward (including the free Uhtred on foot and Finnan)

You cannot purchase:

The reward "DARKLANDS & UHTRED" from Darklands: First Edition
The reward "THE SWEET SPOT" from Darklands: First Edition

Additionally, you do NOT get:

the free Danilo Cruz miniature if you spend more than £150

Encounter and Skirmish Hosts

This is something that many of you out there have requested, so we've decided to bring them back into the KS2 section for you. We can't add the hosts to this project, but we will allow you to purchase them on our website afterwards - at least, until the end of May!

Don't forget, you can add the cost of these hosts - or indeed for anything existing - to your pledge here!

Shipping Existing Items, KS2 items and Hosts

Existing items (i.e., those purchased from our existing range, or from Darklands: a World of War) will be shipped as either a Wave 0 shipment or a Wave 4 shipment; the choice is yours. If you choose to have your existing items shipped as Wave 0, you MUST purchase the Wave 0 shipment item in the pledge management phase. However, Wave 0 items can be shipped once the project ends and you have managed your pledge.

Darklands: First Edition items will be shipped as per the Waves indicated for that project, so please bear that in mind. However, you can still wait until all of your Darklands: First Edition II items are ready before we ship it all, which will of course be just one shipping cost (Wave 4).

Hosts, again, will be shipped as per the Waves indicated for the Darklands: First Edition project, but some Hosts can be shipped as part of Wave 0. Shipment waves for hosts are indicated on the graphic above.

Managing your Pledge

Managing your pledge couldn't be simpler. When the project ends, you simply select the items you want from our webstore after the Kickstarter ends, just as if you were shopping.

As part of the pledge management system, we give you store credit called Moneyback on our website. The amount you pledge here (as well as the gold reward bonus, which we'll add) is the amount of Moneyback you will get, and you can spend this in a special "Kickstarter category" on our webstore.

In a nutshell, it's very simple, you choose what you want as if you were online shopping - there's no forms to fill in, or spreadsheets to complete.

**nerdfest09**

Can we buy any of the models from the website? I see a few with them but I still don't really understand the ks thing and really would like to see how much a troll model is to buy, I really like the face and want to paint one up as something different for me to do?

**Azreal13**

If they have been released, you can buy them from the website at the going rate.

If the model was a part of any of the Kickstarter projects, they may not be on general sale (or even finished) yet. There are a number of trolls completed and released, there are some yet to come.

If you back the current Kickstarter, you will be able to buy any model up to the final unlocks in this project (new stuff gets unveiled as the pledged total increases) including things that are already on sale, or in production from a previous project, at 20% discount.

If the models you choose at that point are yet to be finished, Mierce will send them out as and when they are, if you pay the shipping fees, or in a lump once they are all done if you just pay for the final shipment costs.

**Yodhrin**

OK I've tried googling to no avail; does anyone have proper scale pictures of any existing Mierce human models which they described as being "30mm to the eye" next to GW and/or FW human models? I want to get in on this but I can't afford to blow £100+ on models that end up being completely the wrong size for the project I want to use them in.

**Azreal13**

Yodhrin wrote:
OK I've tried googling to no avail; does anyone have proper scale pictures of any existing Mierce human models which they described as being "30mm to the eye" next to GW and/or FW human models? I want to get in on this but I can't afford to blow £100+ on models that end up being completely the wrong size for the project I want to use them in.

I don't know if you've seen this and dismissed it as not "proper" for your needs, but this link from a few pages back gives some good pics, including man sized Mierce dollies up against more familiar models.

razormage wrote:
Since people keep asking questions about models that weren't in my last Mierce Scale post, I did another one last night on my blog. I apologize for lighting/picture quality and general silliness of the post, but it's hard to say, "This model is bigger than all this other stuff" over and over without it being repetitive.

http://thebeerwaaagh.blogspot.com/2014/04/balancing-scales.html

Let me know what you guys think, and if there are other models you'd like to see compared!

**razormage**

If there are specific GW models you want to see them against, let me know. I've got a camera and eight Fantasy armies and can expand that post easily.

**decker_cky**

razormage wrote:
If there are specific GW models you want to see them against, let me know. I've got a camera and eight Fantasy armies and can expand that post easily.

No rush on this, but it would make sense to have a scale shot with the Gabrax shaman on a base at some point, just to show how he's a bit larger than the other Gabrax. You have him off a base beside the other gabrax who are on bases, which hides that fact. Of the 'beastmen' models, he's the only model I'd really say is out of scale.

Here's another scale shot I haven't seen for would - be beastmen players:

**plastictrees**

Yodhrin wrote:
OK I've tried googling to no avail; does anyone have proper scale pictures of any existing Mierce human models which they described as being "30mm to the eye" next to GW and/or FW human models? I want to get in on this but I can't afford to blow £100+ on models that end up being completely the wrong size for the project I want to use them in.

You were looking at the formor humans right? I'll try to get something up later.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

So from left to right: Cadian legs/torso with a maximini head, Maagaan with no head, Coteaz, Redbox Helsvakt, Angelcynn, flagellant.

**decker_cky**

So....just assembled the new Chaagmuth on foot. He's beastly - makes for a very imposing leader, even standing next to Brunchaath. Much bulkier, and a few milimeters taller.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Yodhrin wrote:
OK I've tried googling to no avail; does anyone have proper scale pictures of any existing Mierce human models which they described as being "30mm to the eye" next to GW and/or FW human models? I want to get in on this but I can't afford to blow £100+ on models that end up being completely the wrong size for the project I want to use them in.

It would be worth telling us which specific Mierce humans you're interested in as there are some that are 7 foot tall in the background (like eirik longaxe, steersman of hrafnen) and thus much taller than the others and guaranteed not to fit with other stuff

**zedmeister**

KS2 update - I'll let the pictures do the talking

Warning: Explosions May Occur

It's a cracker of an update today, this Mierceday.

We have awesome work in progress images, including two of sculpts never before seen; fantastic news about project fulfilment; and, of course, news of our current Kickstarter project,Darklands: First Edition II...

Angedern, Prifdyndraig of Gwaelod

Roberto Chaudon has now completed the awesome Angedern, as you can see... He's brilliant!

Angedern will be with us soon, and sent out during Wave 1.

Ágriosávra, Sun Warrior

Fresh from completing Angedern, Roberto Chaudon has started work on our lovely lizard Ágriosávra, from the concept by Christophe Madura. It's early days yet but he's certainly taking shape!

Once again, Ágriosávra is a Wave 1 dude, so he'll be sent in June.

Knútr of Víkin, Skipari of Hrafnen

This is what you've all been waiting for: Allan Carrasco's utter masterpiece that is our Norse general, Knútr. Believe me when I say that this is perhaps the finest human, let alone viking, miniature ever made at this scale. We defy you to find a better one. It's just astonishing. Don't believe us? Here...

Knútr is a Wave 1 merchant so will be sent out in that shipment...

Rollo Iron Head, Filungi of Hrafnen

We had high hopes for Allan's other Norse miniatures, too; and as you can see, those hopes have been realised...

Like Knútr, Rollo's a Wave 1er, so you'll have to wait until June.

Allan has already begun sculpting Víthar and Birna, we are led to believe; so expect images of those soon...

Zethag of Carn Dhu, Harvest-Drune

The ultra-fast and ultra-amazing Stéphane Simon has finished everybody's favourite boiler, Zethag of Carn Dhu... she's beautifully disgusting!

Zethag will, of course, be sent in June as part of Wave 1.

Gondard of Karaez, Flesh-Drune

Stéphane Simon is sculpting faster than a fast thing eating fast berries: not only is Zethag done, Gondard of Karaez is getting there too!

Gondard (along with his Nithing, Ekk) will be a Wave 1 shipment.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

another concept leaked, dynwocor warrior

**razormage**

Another concept we managed to get out of Mierce: a Fomoraic Sorcere riding a Cugacx (giant wolverine)

**Trodax**

Those Norse are pretty spectacular. Wow!

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

**Azreal13**

razormage wrote:
Another concept we managed to get out of Mierce: a Fomoraic Sorcere riding a Cugacx (giant wolverine)

Squee!

Just when you don't think it can get better for a General than a massive bloke riding an awesomely sculpted polar bear, they give us this!!

**grefven**

Knutr and Rollo are, to me, some early contenders for best sculpts of 2014!

**Azreal13**

You can just see the cliff Knutr is stood on and the sea he's looking out over can't you?

I'd kind of scrolled past him in a hurry, but your comment made me go back and look again. There's something intangible about it which elevates to another level.

**decker_cky**

I'll have to wait and see how mounted Knutr turns out. Those Norse are starting to look like must-buys.

**Looky Likey**

I'm rather glad I brought the Norse set, might just have to get somebody else to paint them for me as they are beyond my skillset to do them justice.

**Makaleth**

I would buy Knutr right now... but putting that into my pledge instead... WOW, cannot wait to also see him mounted

**Yodhrin**

plastictrees wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
OK I've tried googling to no avail; does anyone have proper scale pictures of any existing Mierce human models which they described as being "30mm to the eye" next to GW and/or FW human models? I want to get in on this but I can't afford to blow £100+ on models that end up being completely the wrong size for the project I want to use them in.

You were looking at the formor humans right? I'll try to get something up later.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

So from left to right: Cadian legs/torso with a maximini head, Maagaan with no head, Coteaz, Redbox Helsvakt, Angelcynn, flagellant.

That'll do nicely thanks chief. Are the Warriors of Baalor unit going to be on the same scale as that character chappie then do we think, or more like the size of the Angelcynn soldier? Either way, next to tru/artscale Marines, I think I can get away with using them as feral world Imperial Army. Better start ferreting about for cash to grab a Gold Spot pledge then....*shudder* this army is going to cause me actual physical wallet pain by the end(I have the horrible feeling that when FW eventually put out an Imperial Army list, it's going to require an abhorrent number of models, even compared to normal 40K footGuard hordes).

And thanks to everyone else that offered to help or posted links

**Azreal13**

I seem to remember that the heroic models, (specifically Fomoraic) are deliberately larger than their equivalent infantry, so the Warriors of Baalor are likely to be a smidge smaller.

**Yodhrin**

azreal13 wrote:
I seem to remember that the heroic models, (specifically Fomoraic) are deliberately larger than their equivalent infantry, so the Warriors of Baalor are likely to be a smidge smaller.

Even better thanks. Now to try and figure out what the hell a "laspike" is actually going to look like.

**Mierce Miniatures**

@Yodhrin - the Warriors of Baalor will be of a similar size to the commanders, perhaps a little smaller in some instances.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Creator Mierce Miniatures about 2 hours ago

Okay... Khthones concept:

Srók, Krokodarch

**Alpharius**

Well, that's certainly confirmed my decision to go with Kthones!

**decker_cky**

I'm hoping that when Mierce eventually does man-sized Kthones, they take some design cues from the old GW half-snake slaanesh champion:

They already have some half-man models, so the design wouldn't really be out of place.

Xontor from here:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/999/460/37ab747766774ed11e817d6a01a65df7_large.jpg?1381248459

Ophios:
http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_kth_gor_wld_001_000

Sthena:
http://www.mierce-miniatures.com/index.php?act=pro&pre=mrm_dkl_kth_gor_wld_051_000

Those are all quite a bit bigger, but I think man-sized half snake people would be a popular choice.