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This is my first BA list. I got assault on black reach last christmas. I've also bought a death company box and a chaplain.
Please tell me what you think about it and what I should add to it.
And btw do reculisarches look like chaplains?

HQ

Reclusiarch 145pt

Elites

Terminator squad 200pt
Sergeant with power sword and stormbolter.
4 Terminators with powerfist and stormbolter.

Troops

Tactical squad 170pt
Sergeant with chainsword and bolt pistol.
1 Tactical marine with flamer.
1 Tactical marine with missile launcher.
7 Tactical marines with boltguns.

Death company 130pt
1 Death company marine with power sword and bolt pistol.
1 Death company marine with chainsword and infernus pistol.
3 Death company marines with boltguns.

Heavy support

Dreadnought 105pt

total: 750pt

The death company and the reculsiarch will move towards the enemy, the tactical squad will give fire support and the terminators will deep srike and punch the enemy!

Im thinking of buying another death company and a rhino to put them and the reculisarch in.

As footslogger lists go it's pretty static. The Death Company offer nothing to your for ranged support, and they can be easily lead around due to their Rage rule. Your opponent could draw them out into the open, then concentrate fire on them and leave you without a commander or a decent melee unit.

The Terminators are decent if they Deep Strike, and the Dreadnought is fine, but I would look at making this into a 1,000 point list and picking up a Rhino for those Tactical Marines, fleshing out the Death Company and sticking them in a Rhino as well. I know that involves picking up some additional models but without them I think you will be fighting an uphill battle against anyone with decent ranged firepower.

I agree your army needs some rhinos. Especially the Death Company. And yes the Recluisarch looks like a Chaplain, in fact he is a high ranking Chaplain - basically a perk for Blood Angels.

I forgot to write but the reculisarch has plasma pistol thats why I've written 145pt instead of 130pt.

Do you have any actual preference to your army? aka do you NEED DC? Do you want only the Chaplain as an HQ?

If not, I would say put the Chaplain with the DC in a Razorback. Get a Libby HQ with an Assault squad + Sanguinary Priest. With the left over points invest in some Baal Preds/Scouts depending on how/what you are playing.

Death Company really aren't as good as they used to be. Putting them in a transport is a must now. For the points you are spending on them though, you'd be better off with a different unit.

If you purchased the box set out of appreciation for the models, it's understandable. I hope you haven't put them all together yet though. A suggestion that I have for you, is to buy a squad of assault marines, and mix the two boxed sets together. You could then run the models as really good looking, regular Assault Marines. If you're feeling really up to the challenge, you could magnetize their backpacks, so you can swap out for jump packs.

Your sergeants should always have a Power Fist. +8 Strength attacks alone will win you combat 85% of the time. If you're not going to run Jump troops, you will need a transport. I prefer Razorbacks, even though you can only carry six guys in it.

Honestly... if you're new to playing Blood Angels, I know that Death Co., Death Co. Dreadnoughts, and Sanguinary Guard look extremely tempting. But you should consider refraining from filling up your armies with all of these things, you'll become a better player without all the snazzy units.

For death co you want to assault and with the Reclusarch giving them the re-roll on hit and wounds. Try to find to points to add in some power weapons/fist to make sure when they hit something they are going to kill it!

Thanks for the tips and I havent assembled the death co. yet.

Consider taking a Librarian for 45 less points - and giving him Shield of Sanguinius, which gives everything in a 6" bubble a 5+ cover save.

Also consider giving all Sergeants a power fist (as mentioned), because you need that "bite" to force your enemy to save fearless saves in CC.

I wouldn't take a regular Dreadnaught, but instead take Furiosos, if you want to try them out - they're an elite slot (which is better than taking up a heavy), and with a drop pod, they can alpha strike a vehicle with a magna grapple upgrade and built in meltagun, effectively allowing you two chances to pop a tank's back armor, provided you drop in.

I personally don't like them but some people swear by them, so try them out.

Death Company can be "kited", meaning an enemy can take a Landspeeder type unit and force them to follow it, effectively ruining your squad the rest of the game - they need a transport, but I'd recommend not even taking them (after trying them of course, but against a smart enemy they're as good as useless).

Finally, try out some Predators or Baal Predators - they're fast, which as you'll find out, is EXTREMELY coveted in 40K. You get to move 18" (and not fire) for starters, as a huge tank, and move 6" and still fire heavy weapons - it's a pretty sweet deal.

Also consider a Sanguinary Priest - it's just 50 points to give everything within 6" Furious charge and Feel No Pain, which are really, really good things to have.

Just remember to consult the FAQ online (search for Blood Angels FAQ) - there are limitations, among limitations for other units.

Edit: Also if you assemble the Death Company because you like them, there's nothing stopping you from using them as "counts as" normal assault or tactical marines, and claim that they overcame the black rage. Any non nerd-rage opponent would understand you just don't have any Death Company fielded.

Edit 2: Depending on who you play with, you should try out what you want to try out first, then try out some of our above suggestions via proxying - you'll probably find much greater success with them, and you might enjoy the game more as a result. Then you can figure out what you want to convert/buy (ie a Chaplain should convert pretty easily to a Librarian; all you have to do for the Dread is buy claws).

I suggest buying a PVC pipe arm (the cone type) in the plumbing section of your local hardware store for a drop pod proxy - they're like $3, and roughly the same size.

Magnalon wrote:...Death Company can be "kited", meaning an enemy can take a Landspeeder type unit and force them to follow it, effectively ruining your squad the rest of the game - they need a transport, but I'd recommend not even taking them (after trying them of course, but against a smart enemy they're as good as useless).

Remember though that the DC can hurt landspeeders with their Bolters (since a bolter is Str 4 and speeders have an armor of 10)

also the DC can fire their bolters 24" even after they move 6" so its gonna be tough to kite em with a speeder without the speeder being effected by bolter fire) and if the speeder is within 12" they each get 2 shots.

I have used my death company to great effect, though i usually use 10 of them in a stormraven, this works really well.

Plus you can just kill the speeder with assault cannons or Lascannons.

and I would not take tac squads, they never seem to do much in a BA army. but try em out and see how you like em.

Agreed on not taking Tactical Squads - Blood Angels are an assault based army - taking Tactical Squads defeats the purpose of being Blood Angels in many ways.

That, and Jump Packs and Chainswords are sexy. You'll get all the ladies and all of the nerds will be jealous of your assaulty-goodness.

Kilgore19d wrote:That, and Jump Packs and Chainswords are sexy. You'll get all the ladies and all of the nerds will be jealous of your assaulty-goodness.

HAHAHA!!! That's really funny!