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http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/20668/petite+woman+who+bagged+monster+alligator+defends+trophy+hunt/

^^^ Link to the story.


Now, I know gator hunting is legal and all, but this is just sick. Such a magnificent creature, and she felt the need to torture it to death just to have a neat trophy? Disgusting.

"I hunt because I want these creatures to be here forever."

Oh yeah, you just love them so much you just had to kill the biggest one you could find.

Because we all know that amazing creatures are best admired dead.



Now there are probably a few of you hunter types that will be all "Yeehooo! That's a bigun! Having gator tonight!"

I just think that this is sad.

I love animals. therefore I kill them in needlessly elaborate ways. what a slow.

It also bugs me that by the time one gets to be really big like that it's probably somewhere around 30-50 years old.

And then it gets killed by some hillbilly.

I'm not anti-hunting, but this is a pretty bad story.

Edit- Reading a little more closely, this thing was 60-75 years old. I don't know why that annoys me so much.

rubiksnoob wrote:http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/20668/petite+woman+who+bagged+monster+alligator+defends+trophy+hunt/

^^^ Link to the story.


Now, I know gator hunting is legal and all, but this is just sick. Such a magnificent creature, and she felt the need to torture it to death just to have a neat trophy? Disgusting.

"I hunt because I want these creatures to be here forever."

Oh yeah, you just love them so much you just had to kill the biggest one you could find.

Because we all know that amazing creatures are best admired dead.



Now there are probably a few of you hunter types that will be all "Yeehooo! That's a bigun! Having gator tonight!"

I just think that this is sad.

Gator tastes like chicken.

Gator. The other other other white meat.

As long as the animal is eaten, some forgiveness can be meted out.

But how she killed it? Wrong if you ask me.

Mr Mystery wrote:As long as the animal is eaten, some forgiveness can be meted out.

But how she killed it? Wrong if you ask me.

What? She hooked it, dragged it in and then shot it. Yea she took too long because frankly she's not Cajun. If she was qualified they should have been able to pull it close and cap it toot sweet. Used a .22LR for the hide. pop the spot right at the intersection of the skull and spine. The fact she had to go for a knife is amateur hour.

13 foot. Probably made some half decent bank on that. Imagine how many boots and fashionable Italian leather goods can now bemade.

The thing is, I can understand hunting for sustenance, but this was just killing for the sake of being able to say you killed something that big.

Same thing with why people hunted elephants and loads of other creatures almost to extinction.

"Damn that things big. . . let's kill it! Woo!"

Where's the sport in killing something for fun? It's just sadistic.

Not to mention that thinning out the old is part of proper wildlife management. It was 60+ years old waaaaay past the life expectancy of gators.

LOL! I just knew you couldn't resist a comment Fraz...

Up here in the north woods come deer season it's amateur hour... with most of the amateurs coming from the surrounding urban centers. Good hunters are very careful about the animals they choose and never take a shot unless they know it's a killing shot. Unfortunately they give out licences to anyone with a check book and a pen, which all too often leads to the yankee version of that gator story, and sometimes to a listing in the obit column.

After reading the article callign what she did 'torture' is pretty inaccurate. Torture would be getting it on shore and taped/tied up and then cutting or hurting it without intending to kill it, causing pain for the sake of causing pain. That is not what this lady did.

It took a while to get the thing in. I've had a big snapping turtle get on a line while fishing in my pond. Darned thing must have been 20 pounds. It took over 20 minutes to get him on shore and then another 15 to get the hook out. (and yes, we let the damned thing go )

I imagine a 1,000 pound gator puts up a hellish fight when hooked and that accounts for much of the time it took to bring it in before the killing could happen. Once on shore I seriously doubt it just laid there to be killed which would probably account for the rest of the time.

If she doesnt know how to kill a gator she should either bring someone along who does know how or she should stay at home. AF

I thought at first this was a gator attack.

Poor little fella.

That's a shame. I remember seeing the largest bear, a kodiak, stuffed in some gakker's house because he'd shot it with a huge rifle from half a mile away, he was discussing the nobility of the animal and the desperate struggle he'd endured with it, doubtless as he sipped his coke and ate his sub sat in his hide with a telescopic sight. Nature's wonders laid low by nature's mistakes.

I've hunted for food for many years and have always found hunting for trophies to be utterly repellent. You want to take that gator down, get your speedos on, pick up a knife and dive in, otherwise, you're a lazy bastard masquerading as a gladiator.

Isnt the large reptiles that breed the most? I know with white sharks, killing the 'big ones' really hurts their population growth.

rubiksnoob wrote:The thing is, I can understand hunting for sustenance, but this was just killing for the sake of being able to say you killed something that big.

Same thing with why people hunted elephants and loads of other creatures almost to extinction.

"Damn that things big. . . let's kill it! Woo!"

Where's the sport in killing something for fun? It's just sadistic.

Gators are rarely hunted for sport as its hard, hot, and potentially dangerous. Its a business. They are hunted for the skins and secondarily for the meat.
Should also note, 13 foot is people eating size. Unless you want to live next to something that has no problems eating people you might shut up.

I wonder how many hillbillies it ate over it's 70 year lifespan.

Not enough, obviously.

CptJake wrote:After reading the article callign what she did 'torture' is pretty inaccurate. Torture would be getting it on shore and taped/tied up and then cutting or hurting it without intending to kill it, causing pain for the sake of causing pain. That is not what this lady did.

It took a while to get the thing in. I've had a big snapping turtle get on a line while fishing in my pond. Darned thing must have been 20 pounds. It took over 20 minutes to get him on shore and then another 15 to get the hook out. (and yes, we let the damned thing go )

I imagine a 1,000 pound gator puts up a hellish fight when hooked and that accounts for much of the time it took to bring it in before the killing could happen. Once on shore I seriously doubt it just laid there to be killed which would probably account for the rest of the time.

well actually torture has nothing to do with intent to kill or not kill them afterwards the oxford dictionary defines torture as;

noun
[mass noun]
the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something
-great physical or mental suffering:
the torture I've gone through because of loving you so
-a cause of great physical or mental suffering:
dances were absolute torture because I was so small
verb
[with object]
inflict severe pain on:
most of the victims had been brutally tortured
-cause great mental suffering to:
he was tortured by grief

http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_gb0872700#m_en_gb0872700

also she could of done some research into how to kill gators it isn't hard. the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources tells you a shotgun or handgun is common. a .22 is quite laughable.

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well i'm not really happy with this i like herptiles and i don't like hunting for sport, but i'm happy it's quite a rare event unlike in africa where there are a lot of hunters.

Actually a boomstick is different then a shotgun. Shotguns aren't effective for underwater hunting because the shot loses most of its penetration after hitting the water. A boomstick is essentially a harpoon with a water effective 12 gauge shell on the end, most of the time they are single shot, and that wouldn't have done much considering the size of the gator. If she shot it in the head it would have ruined its trophy value, which is probably why she stuck to a .22 overall.

Not saying what she did is right, as I'm not a fan of trophy killing, I'm just saying why she didn't use a shotgun

also she could of done some research into how to kill gators it isn't hard. the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources tells you a shotgun or handgun is common. a .22 is quite laughable.

If you want to sell the skin you use a .22. If its in your backyard you use a shotgun, or name it Bob and teach it to walk on a leash.

Frazzled wrote:

also she could of done some research into how to kill gators it isn't hard. the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources tells you a shotgun or handgun is common. a .22 is quite laughable.

If you want to sell the skin you use a .22. If its in your backyard you use a shotgun, or name it Bob and teach it to walk on a leash.

i'd name him jermy and every summer we would go to florida and hang out in the everglades with his extended family... ah to dream...

eg0u80bf wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

also she could of done some research into how to kill gators it isn't hard. the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources tells you a shotgun or handgun is common. a .22 is quite laughable.

If you want to sell the skin you use a .22. If its in your backyard you use a shotgun, or name it Bob and teach it to walk on a leash.

i'd name him jermy and every summer we would go to florida and hang out in the everglades with his extended family... ah to dream...

The inlaws have a gator that hangs in the area in the lake right behind them. I think they've named him Ralph or Bob or something.

this sounds like my mom D:
As she could gut me in like 30 seconds.

All mother in laws can gut you in 30 seconds. They take a class. One should always remain very respectful of the mother in law.

It is my mother. Shes a Tasmanian Red neck

HEY! i'm Tasmanian! and no red neck!

nerdfest09 wrote:HEY! i'm Tasmanian! and no red neck!

My mom is from the redneckest parts of australia. And I am from Australia dude. NO trying to hurt your feelings. Just saying my Mom could kill an Alligator.

Oh yeah, my mum could beat your mum!......with an alligator!....actually my mums nickname is G.I Jan and my mates have been scared of her since school! whilst i shall not condone the killing of any beasty for sport and nor shall I dismiss your mothers prowess for killing allligators, I wasn't really offended, when you've lived here you get used to it :-) and then you get over it! and then you get out in the backyard with all of Australias lovely little dangerous creatures and thank god our mothers know how to handle them!

nerdfest09 wrote:Oh yeah, my mum could beat your mum!......with an alligator!....actually my mums nickname is G.I Jan and my mates have been scared of her since school! whilst i shall not condone the killing of any beasty for sport and nor shall I dismiss your mothers prowess for killing allligators, I wasn't really offended, when you've lived here you get used to it :-) and then you get over it! and then you get out in the backyard with all of Australias lovely little dangerous creatures and thank god our mothers know how to handle them!

unlike in america where everyone is either a iduiot or fools, or they are so not cool, and they don't know how to handle anything.

Lol, some people aren't gonna like that :-).......redback spider anyone?.....blue ring octopus?.....

Asherian Command wrote:

nerdfest09 wrote:Oh yeah, my mum could beat your mum!......with an alligator!....actually my mums nickname is G.I Jan and my mates have been scared of her since school! whilst i shall not condone the killing of any beasty for sport and nor shall I dismiss your mothers prowess for killing allligators, I wasn't really offended, when you've lived here you get used to it :-) and then you get over it! and then you get out in the backyard with all of Australias lovely little dangerous creatures and thank god our mothers know how to handle them!

unlike in america where everyone is either a iduiot or fools, or they are so not cool, and they don't know how to handle anything.

You speak for yourself and yourself only teenager.