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Hello. Noob here. This is my first army I plan to play at the local shop.

Goal: I'm looking to build a 1000pt all-comers tourney list from the DA codex.

I'm 5 points over and don't know what to cut/change. All help APPRECIATED.


Chaplain, bike 130

Tactical Squad (10-man), pf, meltagun, plasmacannon, rhino 250
Tactical Squad (10-man), pf, meltagun, plasmacannon, rhino 250

Devastator Squad (5-man), 4x heavy bolter, rhino 185

Ravenwing Attack Squadron (4 bikes), 3 meltaguns 190
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Total: 1005


What I intended: Dev squad and Tacticals (in combat squads) on firing line while Chaplain/bikes flank.

Thanks.




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None? I guess its solid enough then. I'll just drop a plasma cannon to missile launcher and call it good.

To start with a Ravenwing attack Squad can only be 3 or 6 bikes plus one attack bike and/or a land speeder (land speeder only if 6)

Second the Ravenwing Attack Squad can only have two melta guns on the bikers.

Not quite sure how to fix this though atm and make it viable

Thanks for reply and you are right.

The squadron has 3 bikes with an option to buy an attack bike that has a multi-melta.

I should of called it 'attack bike' and it ends up 4 bikes + 2 meltaguns + multi-melta.

Hey and welcome to the Dark Angels

Your right in going ravenwing if you want to be a bit more competative but i disagree with a couple of small pointers in this list.

One, dont take a chaplain with the bike a this stops you from outflanking that unit. and i find outflanking with bikes very useful.

Id take something like this myself,

HQ

Chaplain - 100pts

Troops

Tac Squad - 220pts
/w Melta Gun
/w Missile launcher
/w Rhino

Tac Squad - 220pts
/w Melta Gun
/w Missile launcher
/w Rhino

Fast Attack

Ravenwing Attack Squadron - 195pts
/w Melta Gun
/w Plasma Gun
/w Attack Bike (Multi Melta)

Ravenwing Attack Squadron - 195pts
/w Melta Gun
/w Plasma Gun
/w Attack Bike (Multi Melta)


As far as i can see you should have 70 pts left to play with. mebbe try and squeeze a little armour in there. if no the drop one of the rhinos and take a razorback with lascannon sponsons. if you did hat then combat squad the tac squad putting the chaplain, melta gun and seagant with 3 normal marines in the razorback leaving the missile launcher back in cover. It might be possible to do the same with the other rhino too. mebbe not the lascannons on the second one though.

The idea of the bikes is to outflank them in turn 2 if you get the roll, turn 3 is fine also. they come on and pop any armour that your oponent might be carrying, very nice

Anyways i hope this helps.

Regards

Thanks so much Besper!

[My spelling is bad.] Belial? The DA champ HQ. That guy has kicked by butt many times. I opened a thread about "How many points do people use for their HQ." There are quite a few DA HQ.

Theres nothing special about belial. naturally hell be a little bit more difficult with a termie squad probs in an LRC but he has nothing special about his characteristics. NOT immune to instant death, No force weapon, not buffs. hes just an expensive terminator essentially. only reason people take him is because of the troop ruling for termie squads.

Regards

I think Besper's list is a big improvement, though I'm iffy about the lone chaplain -- he can't fit in either of the rhinos with the full 10-man squads, and he won't add very much to a 5-man squad.

I'd be inclined to drop a tac squad and take Sammael... or, better still, just do a pure Ravenwing army, at 1000 pts:

Sammael on jetbike (205)
3-man ravenwing squad, apothecary, 2 plasma guns, meltabombs, multimelta attack bike (220)
3-man ravenwing squad, 2 plasma guns, multimelta attack bike (200)
3-man ravenwing squad, 2 flamers, power weapon, multimelta attack bike (195)
3-man ravenwing squad, 2 flamers, multimelta attack bike (180)

1000 pts precisely, but it gets you 4 multimeltas, 1 plasma cannon, 4 plasma guns, and 4 flamers, all on highly mobile platforms, almost all of them capable of scout moving (for 1st-turn multimelta joy if you get to go first) or outflanking (for multimeltas that can hit anything on the half of the board they outflank on, if you don't get to go first), and all of them capable of getting a 3+ cover save to get them where they need to be if they come on somewhere less useful.

Ian hit it on the head, make the army pure ravenwing. Added bonus, you get to use the awesome Sammael model.

the chaplain will be able to fit in the Rhino with the combat squad tac squad although i do agree that he shouldnt be in this kind of list.

I was trying to keep to the theme that the original post was going for.

And there is no point putting sammael in a 1000pt list as he is too expensive for it.

In a game this small take an unnamed character to keep his costing down.

Regards

My version of a 1k point list for my Dark Angels usually is a small assault squad a ravenwing bike squad with meltas and attack bike with multi melta and 2 tactical squads. For HQ you should always go for the Interrogator Chaplain. Ignore the regular chaplian, he just isn't as good.

My battle plan is for the tactical squads to hold and the interrogator chaplain with assault squad to attack. A combat squad with rhino or full squad in rhino to take objectives. I avoid devestator squads. Cost too many points. Too stationary. I prefer mobile hard hitting armys.

So something like
Interrogator Chaplain Melta Bombs, Jump Pack
Tactical Squad of 10
Tactical Squad of 10
Tactical Squad of 10 with transport
Assault Squad of 10
Ravenwing Squad of 6 with Attack Bike

Something roughly like that is what I run. One tactical squad and assault squad with Interrogator Chaplain and Ravenwing for attack. The other 2 tacticals for defense. The big thing to rememgber is that it's better to hide the assault squad for a turn than to charge faster and get shot up a lot.