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chowderhead13 wrote:


This is why I HATE America. Seriously. Free speech goes only so far. This guy takes free speech, throws it out the window, sets it fire, and punches it in the face.

Insert required 'if you don't like it, get out' statement here.

Eh. I'm 14. I'm going to get out, eventually.

Why am I so not surprised.

The gay flag with the swastika is confusing.

Why? I can be entitled to my own opinions. I, personally, do not like the U.S. system of government. I wish we could have a direct Democracy, so we, the people, could boot this idiot out, and have more laws that we, the people, want. The idea that someone is filling in for what we believe in is a little over the top.

Dear god, I'm ranting. Well, you get the point.

the guy is a twit, no doubt. but he has a 1st ammendment right to be one. he isnt breaking the law and he can say whatever he wants. its up to the voters (or in this case, the governor) to decide whether he gets to keep his job or not.

Personally I think trans-gender housing is a really dumb idea. I wouldnt have attacked it on the grounds that gay people are bad - just on the grounds that they dont deserve any special molly-coddling from the government. strait people pay taxes too. AF


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chowderhead13 wrote:Why? I can be entitled to my own opinions. I, personally, do not like the U.S. system of government. I wish we could have a direct Democracy, so we, the people, could boot this idiot out

they the people might in fact boot that idiot out. but if you arent a citizen of that state then you dont get a say in the matter anymore than they get a say in who gets to hold office in your state. thats federalism.
AF

chowderhead13 wrote:Why? I can be entitled to my own opinions. I, personally, do not like the U.S. system of government. I wish we could have a direct Democracy, so we, the people, could boot this idiot out, and have more laws that we, the people, want. The idea that someone is filling in for what we believe in is a little over the top.

Dear god, I'm ranting. Well, you get the point.

You're entitled to your incredibly wrong opinions, that is true. But so does that scumbag.

We the people? You mean you the dictator. Nice.

chowderhead13 wrote:


This is why I HATE America. Seriously. Free speech goes only so far. This guy takes free speech, throws it out the window, sets it fire, and punches it in the face.

So basically you hate America because people are allowed to hold and express views that you strongly disagree with? Granted, this guy seems like a complete douche, but I don't see how expressing extreme views that many people will probably disagree with "takes free speech, throws it out the window, sets it [on] fire, and punches it in the face." Don't get me wrong, I'm not agreeing with or supporting this guy's ideas, but being able to express unpopular views is kind of what free speech is all about.

I hope Shirvell will learn a lesson from this and come back to reality (assuming he's ever visited reality in the first place).


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Ahtman wrote:The gay flag with the swastika is confusing.

This is a perfect expression of the thought process of ultraconservatism in America. People like Shirvell honestly believe that there is a massive gay conspiracy to . . . actually, I never quite understood what it was aiming to do.

Exactly.

This is why I hate SOME parts of America. I believe in democracy, just a Direct democracy, like the Athenians. I believe in free speech, just I don't like some aspects of it. I believe that all US citizens should be directly involved in the Government, not a few select people. I do not, like Frazzled said, like Dictatorships. They are a horrible Idea, and have all ended with massive bloodshed and countrywide turmoil. No, I believe in the people having power. And scumbags like this losing his job over this.

Also, what happened to rule no 1? I feel like a ass for saying this, but a a Dakkan citizen, I feel I should have rights.

Manchu wrote:

Ahtman wrote:The gay flag with the swastika is confusing.

This is a perfect expression of the thought process of ultraconservatism in America. People like Shirvell honestly believe that there is a massive gay conspiracy to . . . actually, I never quite understood what it was aiming to do.

Massive conspiracy to...color coordinate!

Manchu wrote:I hope Shirvell will learn a lesson from this and come back to reality (assuming he's ever visited reality in the first place).


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Ahtman wrote:The gay flag with the swastika is confusing.

This is a perfect expression of the thought process of ultraconservatism in America. People like Shirvell honestly believe that there is a massive gay conspiracy to . . . actually, I never quite understood what it was aiming to do.

I think they're concerned that the people involved in their imaginary massive gay conspiracy want to "recruit" more gays, and that they're a "threat to the American family" or something like that. Like, they're afraid they'll turn people gay or something. Lewis Black has a pretty good explanation for why that's crazy (in case anyone actually needs an explanation). You can find it on YouTube.

That asst. AG is obviously a closeted gay. I'm talking sucking dick in a major airport bathroom gay. Sending texts to congressional pages gay. Inviting teenage parishioners to your cabin in the mountains so you can be their "spiritual father" gay.

He is by far the gayest of the two people taking part in that interview.

Also, OP what you believe about politics now doesn't mean jack you're going to have a completely different political leaning within 5 years. I guarantee it.

avantgarde wrote:That asst. AG is obviously a closeted gay. I'm talking sucking dick in a major airport bathroom gay. Sending texts to congressional pages gay. Inviting teenage parishioners to your cabin in the mountains so you can be their "spiritual father" gay.

He is by far the gayest of the two people taking part in that interview.

Pulling a Larry Craig, I see? Hmm...

Also, OP what you believe about politics now doesn't mean jack you're going to have a completely different political leaning within 5 years. I guarantee it.

I probably will, but for now, I'm sticking by my guns.

Frazzled wrote:

Manchu wrote:

Ahtman wrote:The gay flag with the swastika is confusing.

This is a perfect expression of the thought process of ultraconservatism in America. People like Shirvell honestly believe that there is a massive gay conspiracy to . . . actually, I never quite understood what it was aiming to do.

Massive conspiracy to...color coordinate!

You laugh but one of his favorite mentors actually has this theory that gay men have used flat-chested fashion models to manipulate otherwise psychologically healthy men into pedophilic tendencies. I gak you not.

Those Westburo baptists aren't the only sideshow freaks out there. Some of them may be working in your very own local government!

Manchu wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Manchu wrote:

Ahtman wrote:The gay flag with the swastika is confusing.

This is a perfect expression of the thought process of ultraconservatism in America. People like Shirvell honestly believe that there is a massive gay conspiracy to . . . actually, I never quite understood what it was aiming to do.

Massive conspiracy to...color coordinate!

You laugh but one of his favorite mentors actually has this theory that gay men have used flat-chested fashion models to manipulate otherwise psychologically healthy men into pedophilic tendencies. I gak you not.

Those Westburo baptists aren't the only sideshow freaks out there. Some of them may be working in your very own local government!

This is Texas. All our freaks are out in the open or closeted (pun intend) on self imposed compounds waiting for the end times.

Well I have serious issues with the fashion industry and models used but thats related to image issues and the same opinion as the girl scouts (you're pushing what are eseentially concentration camp victims out to represent what women should look like). Thats completely separate however from this, and is in line with the people protesting the hip hop lyrics that glorify the degredation of women.


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chowderhead13 wrote:This is why I hate SOME parts of America. I believe in democracy, just a Direct democracy, like the Athenians. I believe in free speech, just I don't like some aspects of it. I believe that all US citizens should be directly involved in the Government, not a few select people. I do not, like Frazzled said, like Dictatorships. They are a horrible Idea, and have all ended with massive bloodshed and countrywide turmoil. No, I believe in the people having power. And scumbags like this losing his job over this.

Also, what happened to rule no 1? I feel like a ass for saying this, but a a Dakkan citizen, I feel I should have rights.

You want to control what free speech is. Thats pretty god damn dictatorial and antithetical to USA ideals.

Rule #1 has not been violated. I have not once insulted you. But the truth shall set you free!

I can't decide if this guy is the best or the worst troll ever.

chowderhead13 wrote:


This is why I HATE America. Seriously. Free speech goes only so far. This guy takes free speech, throws it out the window, sets it fire, and punches it in the face.

I am so unsuprised that you are 14.

Listen kid, the 1st Amendment works both ways. That is what is GREAT about America. If you have a problem with this, then you need to get the hell out the day you leave your parents house.

djones520 wrote:

chowderhead13 wrote:


This is why I HATE America. Seriously. Free speech goes only so far. This guy takes free speech, throws it out the window, sets it fire, and punches it in the face.

I am so unsuprised that you are 14.

I hate this. Why, If you are a child, you are dumped on, yet as an adult, you can throw rallies in Washington about why the government is corrupt and evil. Jesus, has it come to where psycho gun toting loonies are more respected than today's free thinking youth?

chowderhead13 wrote:

I hate this. Why, If you are a child, you are dumped on, yet as an adult, you can throw rallies in Washington about why the government is corrupt and evil. Jesus, has it come to where psycho gun toting loonies are more respected than today's free thinking youth?

Having seen the decisions made by your average free thinking youth... you betcha.

chowderhead13 wrote:

djones520 wrote:

chowderhead13 wrote:


This is why I HATE America. Seriously. Free speech goes only so far. This guy takes free speech, throws it out the window, sets it fire, and punches it in the face.

I am so unsuprised that you are 14.

I hate this. Why, If you are a child, you are dumped on, yet as an adult, you can throw rallies in Washington about why the government is corrupt and evil. Jesus, has it come to where psycho gun toting loonies are more respected than today's free thinking youth?

You weren't saying anything about the government. You were attacking a man for practicing his 1st amendment right. You were screaming about how awful America is for allowing such a right.

That is why we are dumping on you. Cause your young and dumb. Don't sweat it to much though. We were all like that at one point in our life.

djones520 wrote:

chowderhead13 wrote:

djones520 wrote:

chowderhead13 wrote:


This is why I HATE America. Seriously. Free speech goes only so far. This guy takes free speech, throws it out the window, sets it fire, and punches it in the face.

I am so unsuprised that you are 14.

I hate this. Why, If you are a child, you are dumped on, yet as an adult, you can throw rallies in Washington about why the government is corrupt and evil. Jesus, has it come to where psycho gun toting loonies are more respected than today's free thinking youth?

You weren't saying anything about the government. You were attacking a man for practicing his 1st amendment right. You were screaming about how awful America is for allowing such a right.

That is why we are dumping on you. Cause your young and dumb.

Eh. Good point.

chowderhead13 wrote:
I hate this. Why, If you are a child, you are dumped on, yet as an adult, you can throw rallies in Washington about why the government is corrupt and evil. Jesus, has it come to where psycho gun toting loonies are more respected than today's free thinking youth?

I doubt you have enough data to be considered truly free thinking. Maybe I'm wrong, but learning is a function of time spent learning, which is a function of the time that you've been alive. That doesn't mean that older people are always more knowledgeable about a given topic, but it means they will always have more knowledge, in general, than younger people.

Still, dismissing people because they're young is lazy and childish. Proof that the old have problems with maturity too.

The Gay Agenda

8:00 a.m. Wake up. Wonder where you are.

8:01 a.m. Realize you are lying on 100 percent cotton sheets of at least a 300 count, so don't panic; you're not slumming.

8:02 a.m. Realize you are actually in your own bed for a change. Wake stranger next to you and tell them you are late for work so won't be able to cook breakfast for them. Mutter "sorry" as you help him look for his far-flung underwear. You find out that you tore his boxers while ripping them off him last night, so you "loan" him a pair of boxer-briefs, but not the new ones because you never intend to see him again.

8:05 a.m. Tell the stranger, whose name eludes you, "It was fun. I'll give you a call," as you usher him out the door, avoiding his egregious morning-breath.

8:06 a.m. Crumple and dispose of the piece of paper with his telephone number on it when you get to the kitchen.

8:07 a.m. Make a high protein breakfast while watching the Today show. Wonder if the stories you've heard about Matt Lauer are true. Decide they must be.

8:30 a.m. Italian or domestic? Decide to go with three-button Italian and the only shirt that is clean.

8:45 a.m. Climb into red Z4 and try not to look too much like Barbie driving one of her accessories as you pull out of your underground parking. Revos or Armanis? Go with Revos.

9:35 a.m. Stroll into office.

9:36 a.m. Close door to office and call best friend and laugh about the guy who spent the night at your condo. Point out something annoying about best friend's boyfriend but quickly add "It doesn't matter what everyone else thinks, just as long as you love him."

10:15 a.m. Leave office, telling your secretary you are "meeting with a client." Pretend not to notice her insubordinate roll of her eyes (or the cloying "poem" she has tacked to her cubicle wall).

10:30 a.m. Hair appointment for lowlights and cut. Purchase of Aveda anti-humectant pomade.

11:30 a.m. Run into personal trainer at gym. Pester him about getting you Human Growth Hormone. Spend 30 minutes talking to friends on your cell phone while using Hammer Strength machines, preparing a mental-matrix of which circuit parties everyone is going to and which are now passe.

12:00pm Tan. Schedule back-waxing in time for Saturday party where you know you will end up shirtless.

12:30 p.m. Pay trainer for anabolic steroids and schedule a workout. Shower, taking ten minutes to knot your tie while you check-out your best friend's boyfriend undress with the calculation of someone used to wearing a t-back and having dollars stuffed in their crotch.

1:00 p.m. Meet someone for whom you only know his waist, chest and penis size from AOL M4M chat for lunch at a hot, new restaurant. Because the maître d' recognizes you from a gay bar, you are whisked past the Christian heterosexual couples who have been waiting patiently for a table since 12:30.

2:30 p.m. "Dessert at your place." Find out, once again, people lie on AOL.

3:33 p.m. Assume complete control of the U.S., state, and local governments (in addition to other nations' governments); destroy all healthy Christian marriages; recruit all children grades Kindergarten through 12 into your amoral, filthy lifestyle; secure complete control of the media, starting with sitcoms; molest innocent children; give AIDS to as many people as you can; host a pornographic "art" exhibit at your local art museum; and turn people away from Jesus, causing them to burn forever in Hell.

4:10 p.m. Time permitting, bring about the general decline of Western Civilization and look like you are having way too much fun doing it.

4:30 p.m. Take a disco-nap to prevent facial wrinkles from the stress of world conquest and being so terribly witty.

6:00 p.m. Open a fabulous new bottle of Malbec.

6:47 P.M. Bake Ketamine for weekend. Test recipe.

7:00 P.M. Go to Abercrombie & Fitch and announce in a loud voice, "Over!"

7:40 P.M. Stop looking at the photographic displays at Abercrombie & Fitch and go to a cool store to begin shopping.

8:30 p.m. Light dinner with catty homosexual friends at a restaurant you will be "over" by the time it gets its first review in the local paper.

10:30 p.m. Cocktails at a debauched gay bar, trying to avoid alcoholic queens who can't navigate a crowd with a lit cigarette in one hand and a Stoli in a cheap plastic cup in the other. Make audible remark about how "trashy" people who still think smoking is acceptable are.

12:00 a.m. "Nightcap at your place." Find out that people lie in bars, too.

There you have it folks, the Gay Agenda.

chowderhead13 wrote: I believe in democracy, just a Direct democracy, like the Athenians. .

Sorry but no way. The Athenians had an extremely limited pool of voters and alot smaller list of topics. If we tried something like that it would be, well, like the internet, but alot worse. What's that saying about arguing on the internet?

So arguing in an Athenian Democracy is a lot like participating in the Olympics, even if you win you're still dedicating your victory to the Olympian Gods?

dogma wrote:Still, dismissing people because they're young is lazy and childish. Proof that the old have problems with maturity too.

I think many would agree, but I also think we can agree that it isn't surprising that people would lol when a 14 year old uses hyperbole and insults because he sees free speech as intolerance and wants to crack down on it for that sake of freedom.

Considering the hyberbole and insults that typically get thrown around here by people renowned for their advanced years, I'd say that it's very mature of the original poster and laud him for following in the august footsteps of his biggers and betters.