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Hey, I am new to the game and am looking for a good 1000 pt army list for a local tournament build. Most armies that are played at the local shop are Tau Orks and Tyranids. I had split a black reach box with my friend and he took the orks so I had to make conversions because I wanted to play Blood Angels so I have the basics from them.

So far I have:

1: Assault Squad w/ Jump Pack + sargeant with Power Fist - 215 pts

2: Assault Squad w/ Jump Pack + sargeant with Power Fist - 215 pts

3: Captain (only HQ i have so far) - 100 pts

4: Baal Predator w/ side bolters and twin-linked autocannon - 145 pts

5: 2 Techpriests w/ Jump Pack (added one each to AS) - 150 pts

From this point I do not know what I should add. This list totals 825 pts and I have the Dreadnaught from the black reach box for 105 pts and I have two full squads of Tac Squads for 170 points each. If I had to run it now I would put in a Tac Squad for 170 points but is there any changes to make to make this a better list? So far this list has done fairly well. The Predator has worked fairly well to run cover and bring up squads behind it in open games and the assault troops are useful to flank and they have added survivability with the priests. But when it comes down to it I tend to me over run by orks and tyranids by severe numbers even if I try and bait them around and lead them into my guns from distance.

Now, I know it's a problem if it's the only Model you have, but the Captain is simply not a competitive HQ Choice. Swap him for a Librarian with Unleash Rage and Sword of Sanguinius, put a Jump Pack on him, and throw him in with the Assault Squad.

Why do you have the Techpriests? What are they going to do?

You need some sort of Troops Choice to hold down Objectives, because as it is, you can't sacrifice either of those Assault Squads to camp on an Objective.

So, I'd say loose the Techpriests, switch the Captain for a Libby as previously described, and add a Tactical Squad in a Rhino and a Scout Squad.

my mistake. As stated I am new. What I had meant was to have Sanguinary Priests.

Id drop the pred and one priest so you can take a Stormraven. Both assault squads should have a meltagun. You could run one full squad with the priest and cut the other back to five so they can act as a bodyguard for your HQ. The Captain is a good choice at 1000 points, I'd arm him with a pair of lightning claws and of course he will need a jump pack. The Librarian will not stand up long in protracted fights versus orks.

Thanks for the help! Sorry, I am still learning good combinations and such to build a strong army.

Just an idea for the army
Hq
librarian 125
with jump pack

elites
sanguinary Priest 90
with jump pack
power sword

Troops

Assault squad 230
10 men
sarg with power fist
1melta gun
1 flamer

Assault squad 230
10 men
sarg with power fist
1melta gun
1 flamer

5 man scout squad 90
sniper rifles
camo cloaks

5 man scout squad 90
sniper rifles
camo cloaks

Fast Attack

Baal pred 145
assault cannon
heavy bolters

comes to 1000 if im not mistaken

the set up keep the 2 assault squads close so that the priest gives both squads feel no paint furious charge and such. Put the snipers on objectives and jsut pick of the big things you said that there are ork players take out thier war boss and with snipers and with the camo cloaks they get a +1 to their cover save so they can get a 3+ cover save better than their armor especialy against heavy fire from tau. The lib takes unleash rage and what ever else depending on who you are fighting if its against tau take sheild for sure that will save your assault marines alot of trouble as for the baal the word dakka comes to mind stay out of melta range and light em up you can move 6 and still shoot all guns and the power sword for the priest is because hey those wounds dont get an armour save and on the charge 4 attacks with no armor saves is always fun

That's a nice list for 1k points. I might consider going with an AC/LC pred so you have some long ranged shooting.

oooh that wouldnt be a bad idea but what would you drop? if you drop the scouts than ur assault squads may need to sit and chill wich is no fun the idea is baal pred scouts and just opens up on them mean while the assault squads move up the scouts lay down fire support the liby does his thing and by the time your assault marines make it to their front line (turn 2 maybe turn 3 I usually assault turn 2) but ya then you u move the scouts to the objectives i dont see the point of the pred basicaly because for such a small game it would be expensive and even for tau how many big things can they bring the assault marines if moved nicely could even avoid getting shot at all depending on terrain. But if you do take the pred it basicaly means either bye bye scouts so no bjectives meaning you are basicaly forced to table them or contest their objectives or you drop the baal which means orcs and nids will over run you :( those are jsut my thoughts maybe a variation depending what you play against like baal for nids and orcs and ac/lc pred for tau. but ya i like this list hehe.


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On a personal note nid and or players dont like spacing their squads out too much they just push em in big pile so flamers are awesome and gaunnts dont get any sort of save from a flamer haha so you can fry alot of em all at once and ya um baal should be shooting 1st turn dont use it to move 12 inches it has scout for a reason mine mow down marines or what ever first turn and when you assault a squad of 6 guys rather than 10 it makes a difference.

There is nothing wrong with the original list, its actually close to what I run regularly at 1000 points.

There are only two things that I would have you consider. The First is swapping the Captain for a Librarian. The second is to change the Baal to a standard Predator so that you can add some special weapons to the assult squads.

Other then that, like I said before its a good list that I've found to be very effective.

Thanks guys. I really appreciate the input. I;ll work on feeling out what works and what I can flex around.

Thanks again!

But remember power fists make big bad nids go squish