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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/04 21:27:53
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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I had a crazy idea and had to put it together on paper. It has 33 Missiles a turn.
Kantor 175pts
5x Sternguards 2 Missile Launcher 170pts
Rhino
5x Sternguards 2 Missile Launcher 170pts
Rhino
5x Sternguards 2 Missile Launcher 170pts
Rhino
3x Typhoon Speeders 270pts
2x Typhoon Speeders 180pts
2x Typhoon Speeders 180pts
5x Scouts 4 Sniper 1x Missile launcher 85pts
5x Tactical marines, Combi-Flamer 150pts
Razorback Twinlinked-Heavybolter, hunterkiller
5x Devastators 4xMissile launchers 150pts
5x Devastators 4xMissile launchers 150pts
5x Devastators 4xMissile launchers 150pts
2000pts
Kanor sits in Razor and countercharge rest blasts away and hopfully nothing will be left
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Dark Eldar Tournament Record 2011
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/04 23:26:20
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Lord of the Fleet
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Well the only thing this list wont kill well is AV14. Watch out for land raider filled lists
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/04 23:35:46
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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... and Terminators lol.
Yeah, you have a lot of missiles, but god forbid you get into CC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/04 23:42:37
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Yeah i would be worried about CC, and also why would you give sternguard missile launchers, I feel like it wastes their cool weapon ammos.
it would also be good to think of SW since they can split fire with their long fangs making missiles more deadly. maybe have a few close combat squads that can also deal with AV14, such as PF assault squads with melas, or some dreds.
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"Reality is, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away"
-Philip K. Dick
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 11:30:52
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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Yeah i know av 14 will be hard but 33 missiles is alot and not even a landraider can take that many hits.
Yeah CC wont be fun but thats a problem for most shooty armys.
Sternguards have missiles cause they are cheap and i can score with them, this army is about how many missiles i can shoot each turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 12:50:36
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Lost in the warp while searching for a new codex
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Thats alot of MLs, but even all those MLs will cause roughly 0.3 Imobilized results/turn so you would be boned vs a AV 14 list. It would be interesting to see how the list deals with horde with a the blasts flying everywhere  . An interesting list though but I think some melta is necessary.
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I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 14:41:54
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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Andy Chambers
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Sorry, but Space Wolves do missile spam far better, and they arent half bad in combat either.
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"Dire Avengers are even great in close combat, I mean, an Exarch with a Diresword can even take down a Carnifex!!"
EUROCHEESE - You can smell it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 17:43:58
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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How does it become better with wolves ? i have 5 scoring units in this army i thing that will be with puppies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 18:03:37
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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Andy Chambers
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Sorry came off a bit like an douche there, the list is fine, only thing it lacks is CC power. But for a pure point missile ratio wolves do it better, mainly thanks to long fangs, and to a lesser extend loganwing troops with CML, who can also take care of CC duty if the enemy does close. Gimme a a sec and I'll write up a list.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/320792.page#1995824
The list i wrote up just now. Granted it could have more ML's (you could fit in 33 at 2000 too) but IMO its worth losing 6 ML's for better support and CC capabilities.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2010/10/05 18:21:31
"Dire Avengers are even great in close combat, I mean, an Exarch with a Diresword can even take down a Carnifex!!"
EUROCHEESE - You can smell it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 18:42:42
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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I see your point.
Mine was mostly a test how many kraks i could get and its alot.
One thing i like more with my list is that i can grab objectives with my rhinos. but your list is nice too you gave me some headache here
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 18:44:52
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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Andy Chambers
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Your list is probably the best vanilla missile spam I've seen
Space wolves are different though, they do some things better and vanilla do other things better (and then BA, templars etc)
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"Dire Avengers are even great in close combat, I mean, an Exarch with a Diresword can even take down a Carnifex!!"
EUROCHEESE - You can smell it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 18:49:22
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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Thx.
Yeah its abit different but you got me going here iam going to check if i can get some terminators with cyclones in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 18:57:36
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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You can save points and get more bang for your buck if those Devs become Typhoon speeders.
for thesame cost for a 5 man Dev squad that is totally nekkid you can get an AV10 skimmer with a heavy 2 missile launcher AND a heavy bolter that can move 12" a turn and lay down an obscene amount of fire.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 19:13:54
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Sneaky Kommando
Hemet california
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lol that is a bit mutch with the ml's. Makes me I had more ml armed models.
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Diplomacy is the act of saying good doggie until you can find a big enough gun!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/05 22:05:26
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I think Demons would tear this army apart as would an alpha-strike force. Other than that, it looks interesting. Try it out and give us a battle report!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/06 16:07:02
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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Andy Chambers
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How exactly would daemons beat this with an alpha strike?
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"Dire Avengers are even great in close combat, I mean, an Exarch with a Diresword can even take down a Carnifex!!"
EUROCHEESE - You can smell it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/06 16:09:28
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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they would beat it because there really isn't much anti-infantry aside from bolters and frag blasts.
the deamons would then be close enough to assault next turn.
and the marines couldn't move if they wished to shoot the missiles at the deamons.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/06 16:16:34
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Jabbdo wrote:How exactly would daemons beat this with an alpha strike?
Sorry, I meant that Daemons would tear this apart, and, additionally, an Alpha Strike army would beat it.
Daemons because there's not enough anti-infantry.
An Alpha Strike because it could quickly neutralize the Devastators and taking out the Sterguards's Rhinos would seriously quickly limit this lists mobility. Although, maybe the Typhoons would be enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/06 16:45:43
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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Andy Chambers
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oh yeah my bad just realised I read it wrong
if I was playing daemons with this I'd block their movement with the speeders and pummel them with frags.
An alpha strike would at best kill all the devs and suppress the typhoons, leaving only the sterns missiles to fire back. No point alpha striking the sterns as you have to first kill the rhino then kill 3 guys before you start killing off ML's.
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"Dire Avengers are even great in close combat, I mean, an Exarch with a Diresword can even take down a Carnifex!!"
EUROCHEESE - You can smell it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/06 18:20:24
Subject: Re:2k Marines. Want krak?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
Downers Grove, IL
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This would be hilarious to watch going up against a pure mech army. I play mech marines and not that many lists scare me. This one terrifies me. My only solace if i got paired with you in a tournament is the fact you would get stomped in an alpha strike hopefully after you turn my side of the board into a parking lot. Its awesome if your meta is mech heavy but not balanced by any stretch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/07 09:15:19
Subject: 2k Marines. Want krak?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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I did this list to check how many kraks i could fit not going to play it in a tounament but mech marines should be afraid of it.
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