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Steadfast Grey Hunter





I just got the new plastic battlebox and the army book but there is something i dont get, do the warcasters have no point cost, or am i just being dumb? I come from a 40k backround, it just looks funny to me.

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Madrak Ironhide







http://privateerpress.com/files/WarmachineQuickStartRulesBack.pdf

Lower right hand corner WJ + number

WJ is Warjack Points

The Number increases the size of your army by that amount. However, you must spend
those points on Warjacks in the warcaster's battlegroup.

So you'll see people add up army lists that end up costing 41 points before you apply
the "free" warjack points. WJ + 6 means a 41 point army is legal for 35 point games.

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Longrifle



Coplay, PA

first, congrats on joining with cygnar! Second, no. The warcasters are free pieces, and they give you bonuse points to spend on warjacks for your warcasters battlegroup.

So take colman for example, he gives you +5 points (i think, dont have my stuff). So if you have a jack that cost 8 points, it takes 5 away making it a 3 point jack. Or if you have a 4point jack, it becomes free and you still have 1 bonus point left over to use on another jack in your group

But the points can only be spent once and for wajacks in his battle group only.

"It's not my fault I'm the biggest and the strongest. I don't even exercise." -Fezzick 
   
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Steadfast Grey Hunter





ok so the warcaters are free? Ill try on getting the rule book thisweek.

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Widowmaker



Perth, WA, australia

They are free, they add points even, like the other guy told you

this basically encourage you to take a warjack

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Steadfast Grey Hunter





lol wow i must have bin dead tired, but getting free stuff is sweet. Now to pick a Warcaster...... any pointers?

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Regular Dakkanaut




Rockford,IL

Brother Captain: RJ wrote:lol wow i must have bin dead tired, but getting free stuff is sweet. Now to pick a Warcaster...... any pointers?


Stryker from the battle box is a great caster to learn to play with, solid spell list decent stats and an easy to use feat. You already have the battle box, now pick a unit you like a solo or two and get to it, good luck and remember try and have fun.

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Madrak Ironhide







There are four articles here for now, but I'd like to have more in the future.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Category:Collecting_Cygnar

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Storm Guard






Bakersfield, Ca

Brother Captain: RJ wrote:lol wow i must have bin dead tired, but getting free stuff is sweet. Now to pick a Warcaster...... any pointers?


You already have Stryker from the Battle Box, so I'd say play a lot of games with him until you get comfortable with him and at that point move on other Warcasters.

   
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Widowmaker



Perth, WA, australia

whitekong wrote:
Brother Captain: RJ wrote:lol wow i must have bin dead tired, but getting free stuff is sweet. Now to pick a Warcaster...... any pointers?


Stryker from the battle box is a great caster to learn to play with, solid spell list decent stats and an easy to use feat. You already have the battle box, now pick a unit you like a solo or two and get to it, good luck and remember try and have fun.


yep pStryker is good enough to start, i am going to go ahead and say he is the most balanced out of the three battlebox caster

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Steadfast Grey Hunter





yeah i like Stryker. he fits with my in your face style of combat. seeing as i play spacewolfs for 40k

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Widowmaker



Perth, WA, australia

rather weird why you picked signar then

there's this faction which is all about IN YOUR FACE, combat

oh and be wary, lose your warcaster? lose the game

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Paingiver






Southern Finland

pStryker is pretty far from in your face combat, he favors keeping distance from the enemy and killing them from range before striking to the heart with couple of heavy hitters. Epic Stryker is the cygnar's go to guy for close and personal combat.

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Steadfast Grey Hunter





O sorry i guess i meant to say that I like aggressive type of play. And what Stryker would be the epic one, I only see 2 Strykers in the army book. Sorry still trying to get a feel for the game.

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Madrak Ironhide







Lord Commander Coleman Stryker
Epic Cygnar Warcaster <== Look at the descriptor under the name.

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Steadfast Grey Hunter





Ooooo lol guess I should read more. Well thanks for the help guys i think i got all the help i need for now.

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Rampaging Chaos Russ Driver




Epic Stryker is so fun to ram down people's throats.

There's something awesome about POW+Str = 27+ with 3 focus left and in charge range.

I love running him with Ol' Rowdy and a Stormclad. Lots of stormblades too. It's a tier list so it's a little less "competitive" but tell that to the guy I just charged 17 inches away. 20 if you blow his feat.

   
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle





If I went Cygnar, he'd be one of the Casters I would get.

He does army support, he does melee assassination, AND (as I've seen) DAKKA assassination.

3 Fully Boosted Magnum Shots (Reinholdt) is pretty scary when given the chance.

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There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
 
   
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Widowmaker



Perth, WA, australia

met but there's still the unchallenged king of DAKKA assassin

eCaine , king of all guns


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Steadfast Grey Hunter





I like Caine so far. There is something Han Solo about him.

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Widowmaker



Perth, WA, australia

He is cooler than Stryker IMO

Stryker have this feel that he is the invincible main character

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Steadfast Grey Hunter





this is true. But gunslingers are just cool, Thats y i like Vinsent over cloud.

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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler





Two Rivers, WI

I just got started on warmachine myself, they didn't have the starter box so I grabbed epic Caine and and a Cyclone heavy jack. I plan on getting the start box later this month.

   
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Widowmaker



Perth, WA, australia

why didn't you take Ironclad instead?
Caine have a very focus selfish gamestyle

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Bane Knight





Netherlands

probably because he got what he liked most...

No matter though. I think the cyclone will be fine. You could make the inevitable gunmage unit + UA marchal the jack, making it a real threat on the table.

 
   
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Widowmaker



Perth, WA, australia

I see

there's that way, hmmm the cyclone does hold an enviable gun

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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle





The Cyclone doesn't really need focus... so isn't so bad with eCaine, but yes, Marshalled to the Dude makes it fearsome.

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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
 
   
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Wraith





Plus the Ironclad is too slow to keep up with eCaine. You'd need to put him on Jr to make it work in an eCaine list.
   
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Paingiver






Southern Finland

12thRonin wrote:Plus the Ironclad is too slow to keep up with eCaine. You'd need to put him on Jr to make it work in an eCaine list.


I wouldn't marshall a melee heavy with JWC. The small control area means it is really difficult to shield the poor journeyman from assassination and it is so easy to cap him. I would only marshall ranged jacks with him.

   
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Master Tormentor





St. Louis

Junior isn't a Marshal...
   
 
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