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Mutilatin' Mad Dok





Hey dakkaites. I collect just about every army, but it seems to me you're not cool unless you come up with a convincing space marine chapter
However i'm completely stumped when i get to the question of "who's your daddy?"

I want to come up with some decently worthwhile space marine fluff, but i'm wondering which road to take
I was thinking of ultramarines but eh, too easy don't you think? Or is that precisely the open-endedness i'm looking for??
I Space Wolves seems like something cool to go on, but when creating a new chapter it seems.. unfeasible? Ha, maybe someone tried to 'water down' the wulfen seed?
Salamanders seems like a cool option, since their successors seem mysterious and all. plus on the whole they're pretty cool to your common man
I would like to mention every other loyalist chapter but for the sake of tl:dr to hell with that

I had this idea of using some sculpted shoulder pads from another chapter and painting differently / adding greenstuff to make it more unique. Maybe that narrows the scope for ya
So i'm hoping dakka can help me start Jerry Springer Style by determining who the real father is


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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh






Reading, UK

Not all of the Chapters know from where they were created, there's also the 13th or dark founding that gives you a lot of options. Basically, do what you want


THE DARK FOUNDING

Not all the foundings of Space Marine Chapters are recorded in exact detail. However, the Adeptus Terra maintains a single bank of original gene-seed from every single Chapter ever created since the Horus Heresy. There is one notable exception: the Thirteenth Founding, also known as the Dark Founding. No-one knows how many Chapters were created by the Dark Founding or what became of them. Perhaps the secret lies in some deep vault in the record office of the Adeptus Terra. Maybe the Space Marines of the Dark Founding are still out there somewhere, waiting to return to the world that created them.

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Mutilatin' Mad Dok





I kinda had some names, but tbh i don't know what to do with them
like Scorpions Sanguine, Gorehounds, Exalted of Ultramar
seem pretty easily tied to a codex..
I guess i'm just trying to avoid the "been there done that" factor
As far as to what founding. the 13th and 21st "cursed" foundings seem the most characterful.
I'll read some of what's already here to get an idea of what other people have done, and come back to this


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Legendary Master of the Chapter





Chicago, Illinois

There are tons of chapters.
Like mine
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/322869.page#2096591

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Mutilatin' Mad Dok





like the conversions man, looks like you took chaos warrior helmets and cut the horns off... Amirite?
Looks crusader-esque
Can't say i know where to start, hence the post.. but looking at other folks work gives me ideas

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Legendary Master of the Chapter





Chicago, Illinois

Mukkin'About wrote:like the conversions man, looks like you took chaos warripr helmets and cut the horns off... Amirite?
Looks crusader-esque
Can't say i know where to start, hence the post.. but looking at other folks work gives me ideas

Theres tons of other chapters look in the galleries of dakkadakka and you will find alot of ideas.

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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche






Elephant Graveyard

You could just do a chapter that is completly normal and has had a previously unremarkable battle record. They are as codex as their limitations allow and are formed from Ultramarines geneseed.
They hve no great hate or love for any particular faction and favour no particular tactic over another.
They also have the standard 10 companies organisaton as well as the standard numbers that comes with it.
They haven't formed any friendships or rivalries with any other chapters.
They just are.

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Chicago, Illinois

purplefood wrote:You could just do a chapter that is completly normal and has had a previously unremarkable battle record. They are as codex as their limitations allow and are formed from Ultramarines geneseed.
They hve no great hate or love for any particular faction and favour no particular tactic over another.
They also have the standard 10 companies organisaton as well as the standard numbers that comes with it.
They haven't formed any friendships or rivalries with any other chapters.
They just are.

These types of chapters are sadly so rare now adays.

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Elephant Graveyard

Asherian Command wrote:
purplefood wrote:You could just do a chapter that is completly normal and has had a previously unremarkable battle record. They are as codex as their limitations allow and are formed from Ultramarines geneseed.
They hve no great hate or love for any particular faction and favour no particular tactic over another.
They also have the standard 10 companies organisaton as well as the standard numbers that comes with it.
They haven't formed any friendships or rivalries with any other chapters.
They just are.

These types of chapters are sadly so rare now adays.

And that is what makes them unique. It's the simplicity that no one expects.
It's like having a password that is password. Sheer brilliance.

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"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. 
   
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Legendary Master of the Chapter





Chicago, Illinois

purplefood wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
purplefood wrote:You could just do a chapter that is completly normal and has had a previously unremarkable battle record. They are as codex as their limitations allow and are formed from Ultramarines geneseed.
They hve no great hate or love for any particular faction and favour no particular tactic over another.
They also have the standard 10 companies organisaton as well as the standard numbers that comes with it.
They haven't formed any friendships or rivalries with any other chapters.
They just are.

These types of chapters are sadly so rare now adays.

And that is what makes them unique. It's the simplicity that no one expects.
It's like having a password that is password. Sheer brilliance.

RVB reference
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Caboose = slow


Anyway. simplicity is the best in most chapters. The most basic chapter I have ever made was the Sword Templars and the Storm Knights.

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Elephant Graveyard

I was hoping someone would get the RvB reference
Also none of your chapters are simple.
I mean properly simple as in completly and utterly bog standard.

Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. 
   
Made in bn
Mutilatin' Mad Dok





Hahaha, considering i was tossing about a bunch of names and i really couldn't decide... Maybe doing more than one would be cool. I like the idea of being so unremarkable that nobody even gives a care about you
"hey have you every heard of the 'Star Koi' chapter?"
"who the hell are those guys?" "Exactly"

Now to come up with something unassuming!
I would also like to do something a bit more heroic, but not so mary sue that my chapter master has single handedly pwned every xenos HQ choice you can name. Realistically you just can't pit your chapter master against bloodthirsters swarmlords and avatars (not unless your name is Marneus 'Epic Pwnage' Calgar)

I like the idea of watering down some normally deviant geneseed. like blood angels or space wolves. Will fluff nazis tear me a new poopchute for this?


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Elephant Graveyard

Traditionally SW don't have successor chapters but BA do.

Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. 
   
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Scotland

Nothing stopping you doing a space wolf great company though that takes its own colour-scheme and symbols.
   
Made in bn
Mutilatin' Mad Dok





I thought all SW companies did the grey thing
Yeah, but my reasoning being that SW could have been toned down in deviancy with someone else's genetic influence. Perhaps used by forces of the inquisition (as i sometimes read that there are a few chapters tied to inquisitional service)

BA would be pretty cut and paste to make a successor to I think


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Hope this helps.
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?s=6623c1c115a1d6bda24d5988d53a9fad&showtopic=132379

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Mutilatin' Mad Dok





Actually that does! thanks man!
I dont often do B&C but i did find the marine painter helpful!


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Wow that really is helpful!
Lol DO NOT DO SPACE WOLVES
*whimper* but it's so tempting!

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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche






Elephant Graveyard

Resist the temptation.
That is a great guide for people ho want to make their own SM chapter.

Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. 
   
 
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