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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 05:53:07
Subject: legion of the damned
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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What do people think of this elite unit. I have one and have not used it yet. I like there ablities and i have heavy bolter, flamer, sword/bolt pistol, 7 bolters.
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3600pts imperial fists
2100pts daemons |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 06:09:52
Subject: legion of the damned
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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they're a negative. 3++ is nice but they arent any more resilient to small arms fire. However it costs you alot more when they die. basically you're not getting a good value for your points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 07:33:22
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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i thought the slow and purposeful would be considered good and the fact that they can take a hit that would kill a tank
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3600pts imperial fists
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 07:42:38
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Fixture of Dakka
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If you can control the situation enough that they really take advantage of what makes them cost so much (invulnerable save, deep strike, slow and purposeful, 2 attacks), then they're good.
Problem is that's pretty difficult to do, and against some armies, just not possible. Some armies don't have any attacks that would ignore a 3+ armor save, for example.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 07:48:34
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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koridon wrote:i thought the slow and purposeful would be considered good and the fact that they can take a hit that would kill a tank
it's good yes.... thing is opponents will realize that lascannons and such arent the best way to handle them and just shoot them with bolters. it creates a very temporary problem for your opponent. relentless is good too but not worth what you're paying for it on this unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 07:50:17
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Good point, and i did not think of it that way
just thought of it, but do they make good ways to distract a monsteroius creature
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 08:38:48
Subject: legion of the damned
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Slippery Scout Biker
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I wouldn't put that to the test. From what I know, trying to distract a monstrous creature with bolter fire is not effective. For me legion of the damned are just another kill point that can be easily acquired.
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Starting more general space marine armies
4000pts Imperial Fists
500pts Blood Angels
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 08:41:09
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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i ment in melee sense they have the 3+ invul, so they can make the save
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 09:27:27
Subject: legion of the damned
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Slippery Scout Biker
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I suppose, but in a turn of combat a melee orientated monstrous creature will destroy most of this expensive squad. If I had a monstrous creature and you assaulted it with your legion of the damned the first thing I would do on my turn would be send another squad in to help and the melee would last a lot shorter.
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Starting more general space marine armies
4000pts Imperial Fists
500pts Blood Angels
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 09:30:05
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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good point i just thought it might work to hold off the damn nids and there monsterious creatures untill you get more fire power or a melee beast of urs in, like terminators with storm shields.
and damn 4k imperial fist army, mine is only 3400 atm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 09:45:03
Subject: legion of the damned
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Slippery Scout Biker
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Cool! How much of yours is painted? mine is only half painted as i started painting my chaos after id only finished painting 1K which slowed the painting right down. Id like to see some of your models if you have painted any.
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Starting more general space marine armies
4000pts Imperial Fists
500pts Blood Angels
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 09:53:02
Subject: legion of the damned
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
In my garden being molested by an androgynous lamb.
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Yet again soz modesty dignified sausage and to answer the question they can be made to work as an effective unit, going for independent characters that specialize in combat for example. As a battle-tempered pre-heresy thousand sons player I don't like the look of them but thousand sons are about the only army that would fear them, and we have bigger fish to fry, assault terminators for example.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 09:57:07
Subject: legion of the damned
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Slippery Scout Biker
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TRISKELION7: Stop following me!!!
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Starting more general space marine armies
4000pts Imperial Fists
500pts Blood Angels
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 10:01:34
Subject: legion of the damned
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Major
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lotd dont have 3++
only 3+/5++
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 10:14:18
Subject: legion of the damned
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Devastator wrote:lotd dont have 3++
only 3+/5++
who told you that lie? lol in the codex it says their saving throw is invulnerable
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 10:41:15
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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How do you make the little high liighted words work
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3600pts imperial fists
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 11:00:24
Subject: legion of the damned
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Fixture of Dakka
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koridon wrote:What do people think of this elite unit.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/267222.page
Way ahead of you. One year ahead. Automatically Appended Next Post: dignifiedsausage wrote:TRISKELION7: Stop following me!!!
He does that to everyone. You get used to it.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/11/14 11:01:37
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 11:48:11
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Fixture of Dakka
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Shrike, except this guy is asking specifically about tactics, not whether people use them. Also, it's probably getting a better rate of replies as it stands.
As a unit, they are good. 3++, Relentless, Heavy Weapons.
As a choice, they are bad. Simply too expensive and out-classed by the likes of Terminators and Sternguard.
However, they can be made to work and at the very least are great looking and good for friendly games.
Adding a Librarian with GoI can really help actually, boosting their manoeuvrability and hitting power.
As has been said, they are too expensive for what they provide and 3++ isn't actually that much use. However, they are good fun and can be made to work...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 11:51:39
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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how about for an apoc game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 12:02:45
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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You have to find a good choise for them. Anti Mech is cool because they can have the multi melta with move and fire, but that is also what your land speeder can be for. Perhaps they are good at fighting incumbi?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 12:23:20
Subject: legion of the damned
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well Apocalypse Games are typically a casual/friendly thing, so by all means.
Their 3++ may also get more use in such games too.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 13:05:09
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Fixture of Dakka
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Just Dave wrote:Shrike, except this guy is asking specifically about tactics, not whether people use them.
Uuh...
shrike wrote:talk here about the pros and cons.
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+
JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 13:10:50
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Fixture of Dakka
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Uhhh...
"Subject: legion of the damned: who else uses 'em?"
"Who uses 'em?"
that and he has more replies than yours all-ready.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 16:08:35
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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if it's just a friendly game and/or you want a deepstriking relentless MM(which you might notice you are paying through the nose for) they can be nice.
Appoc could definitly see their usage on a larger scale. there is even an Appoc sheet for LotD Terminators(2++ save FTW)
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 00:17:35
Subject: legion of the damned
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
Right behind you. No, really.
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not good enough- in higher point games points can be used better. I don;t like them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 03:41:45
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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where can i find the sheet for lotd terminators
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3600pts imperial fists
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 04:15:51
Subject: Re:legion of the damned
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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on GW's site under the Appoc Datasheets IIRC.
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1180084_Space_Marines_Datasheet_-_The_Legion_of_the_Damned.pdf
Unfortunantly, this one was made before the current codex came out.
they have FNP instead of all saves being Invulnerable. still decent and quite a bit cheaper too.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 06:05:14
Subject: legion of the damned
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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too pricey for what they can and more than likely won't do
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 14:05:29
Subject: legion of the damned
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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They make cool squad leaders and/or paper weights.
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 20:30:49
Subject: legion of the damned
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I converted mine with meltaguns for use as Chaos Chosen.
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There's just an acre of you fellas, isn't there? |
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