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I'm sure this has been brought up before...What if the hive mind is really just a forgotten c'tan?

What if that's why the tyranids have come to the milky way? Maybe the tyranids are just a creation of the old ones that the c'tan turned against them?

Discuss. I want to know what you guys think.

Leave the "eprah is a c'tan mate"s outside.

Interesting idea. But, what if the Emprah is the hive mind?

A creature is merely a machine of flesh instead of metal, maybe the outsider's specialty is biology.

It's not. It's the psychic conciousness of the Tyranid race. It's basically a combination of eusociality and collective conciousness.

Conceivably could be, but unlikely seeing as how the C'tan evolved along totally different lines than any other life in the known universe. If a "forgotten" C'tan missed out on getting stuffed in a body then the probability of evolving into the psychic manifestation of biological race or even to function on a level of awareness recognizable to mortals would be very low. Remember, they ate stars and traveled the void until the whole Necron deal.....and any C'tan that became embodied isn't going to get "lost" due to the nature of necron "thought".

The 3rd edition Necron codex already retconned them into everybody else's history books, doing the same to the Tyranids would be just as bad.

Such a shame. I actually liked the Necrons as they were in 2nd edition.

AlexHolker wrote:The 3rd edition Necron codex already retconned them into everybody else's history books, doing the same to the Tyranids would be just as bad.

Such a shame. I actually liked the Necrons as they were in 2nd edition.

Agreed, on all points!

And is it Thanksgiving Vacation already?

Well in my personal opinion no.
But there is nothing against it so it is possible, but the thing is that horus could have been a alien and dark eldar might be mind controlled by the inquisition, there is nothing against it either. So really all that can be done on these kind of subjects is spectulate, so no awnser can be right or wrong

Alpharius wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:The 3rd edition Necron codex already retconned them into everybody else's history books, doing the same to the Tyranids would be just as bad.

Such a shame. I actually liked the Necrons as they were in 2nd edition.

Agreed, on all points!

And is it Thanksgiving Vacation already?

Not yet alph.

I've always like to think that the tyranids secretly tie into the old ones and such things. Maybe..Maybe not.

Thread can be locked now, if desired.

The hive mind is a collective psychic entity that directs the tyranids, largely like in bee and ant colonies (minus the psychic part).

TRISKELION7 wrote:The hive mind is a collective psychic entity that directs the tyranids, largely like in bee and ant colonies (minus the psychic part).

It is that, and more. The collected communications have reached such a level that a singular, even greater sentience beyond the sum of its parts has arisen.

In short, the Tyranid Hive Mind and the C'tan Outside are categorically, absolutely, not the same thing.

I remeber something about the tyranids specifically avoiding necron tomb worlds and the area of space the outsider inhabits, as if they were the plague. Necrons/C'tan seem to be the antithesis of those with psychic sensitivity, which is, in essence, the entirety of the Tyranid race.

no.

Got this one on lock: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/308208.page

Just my 2 pence

Laughing God wrote:Got this one on lock: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/308208.page

Just my 2 pence

thanks for the backup lol

I remeber something about the tyranids specifically avoiding necron tomb worlds and the area of space the outsider inhabits, as if they were the plague. Necrons/C'tan seem to be the antithesis of those with psychic sensitivity, which is, in essence, the entirety of the Tyranid race.

If I recall this has been discussed before and the alternate view is that the Nids are simply smart enough to know that the amount of biomass expended in a war on a tomb world is just not worth it. Sure there will most likely be air, sand, rock etc to digest, even perhaps the necron carcass' themselves, however to do so weakens the overall hive fleet.

There are jucier and easier targes within the Galaxy.


Can you also source where it says the Nids are in essense psychicly sensitive? The control the Hive Mind exerts iirc has yet to be proven to be psychic more like a latent willing/control/knowledge over its units.

As for a c'tan being the Hive mind, its a possibilty but the idea is anathema to me being a Nid fan and I really hope its not cannonised.

i've always pictured the hive mind like something out of Starship Troopers with the Brain bugs and what not. You'll probably have a couple of mega-intelligent minds that form a core with all of the Synapse creatures connected in to some degree. together they act as like a council of thought and order and dictate to eachother through psychic links and again through these psychic links to lesser minions.

the C'tan on the other hand eat stars and wander around the battlefield making your men run away with but a glance and soak up firepower like an adamantium sponge. sorry living metal sponge.

No, as the Hive Mind is a warp presence, and the warp is anathema to the C'tan.

Melissia wrote:No, as the Hive Mind is a warp presence, and the warp is anathema to the C'tan.

QFT. It would also completely make nids and necrons as 2 seperate armies meaningless.


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Melissia wrote:No, as the Hive Mind is a warp presence, and the warp is anathema to the C'tan.

QFT. It would also completely make nids and necrons as 2 seperate armies meaningless.

I can't see the C'Tan having anything to do with the hive mind really...

The path of necron evolution seems to be in the opposite direction to the hive mind, with the pariah gene being developed to block psychic emanations.

I always assumed nids avoided tomb worlds because it would weaken the links with the hive, by blocking the hive mind.