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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 20:08:55
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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On behalf of a friend, does Str D not cause instant death on units that are T7 or above? Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 20:14:26
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Huge Bone Giant
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Toughness has zero bearing on Destroyer rules.
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"It is not the bullet with your name on it that should worry you, it's the one labeled "To whom it may concern. . ."
DQ:70S++G+++MB+I+Pwhfb06+D++A+++/aWD-R++++T(D)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 20:15:39
Subject: Re:Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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So it always causes ID regardless of toughness?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 20:19:54
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Freaky Flayed One
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Yeah instant death via the destroyer rule ignores toughness so one failed invulnerable save and thats bye bye to their favourite model/unit..
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Somewhere close to 25'000pts
I lost count a few years back. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 20:26:44
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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unless it has EW.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 20:37:30
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Freaky Flayed One
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Yeah if its immune to ID which it will state in its rules then it simply takes wounds for however many invulnerable saves it failed by.
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Somewhere close to 25'000pts
I lost count a few years back. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 21:21:08
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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doesnt str d weapons ignore inv saves, cover saves, auto penetrate armor, and ID anything w/o Ew or equiv
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 21:22:48
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Huge Bone Giant
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Destroyer rules do not ignore Invulnerable saves.
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"It is not the bullet with your name on it that should worry you, it's the one labeled "To whom it may concern. . ."
DQ:70S++G+++MB+I+Pwhfb06+D++A+++/aWD-R++++T(D)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 22:09:09
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Lord of the Fleet
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Destroyer causes an automatic wound with Instant Death, regardless of Toughness. It does not ignore Invulnerable saves, but it ignores all Cover saves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 22:15:43
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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what units have str
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 22:19:32
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Generally super heavies, like Warhounds and above. Also i think the volcano cannon is S: D
Tiger Shark AX-1 has S D Railgun
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 22:30:35
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Freaky Flayed One
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My Necron Pylon has 3 strength 'D' shots using its focussed 'Gauss Annihilator'.
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Somewhere close to 25'000pts
I lost count a few years back. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 22:51:27
Subject: Re:Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Indeed the Volcano Cannon is Str D, as is a Turbolaser Destructor and a few other apocalypse weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 23:02:42
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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ah i stand corrected, does auto wound tho
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 23:22:46
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Itd be cool of a space marine captain or something had a plasma pistol that was strength D
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 23:34:01
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Proud Phantom Titan
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Jaon wrote:Itd be cool of a space marine captain or something had a plasma pistol that was strength D 
... they're called vortex grenade ... ok its a one shot weapon but it doesn't stop at the end of the turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/17 23:50:11
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Regular Dakkanaut
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StarGate wrote: what units have str
I am pretty sure Long Fangs can take str D weapons. If not, sure seams like it lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/18 00:15:42
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Tri wrote:Jaon wrote:Itd be cool of a space marine captain or something had a plasma pistol that was strength D 
... they're called vortex grenade ... ok its a one shot weapon but it doesn't stop at the end of the turn.
Also, Vortex Grenades aren't StD, they just remove things(and ignore Inv saves, unlike StD).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/18 01:03:10
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Jaon wrote:Itd be cool of a space marine captain or something had a plasma pistol that was strength D 
One of the Chaos-specific Strategic Assets in Apocalypse Reload gives a single model with a bolt weapon a StrD 7" blast shot (Daemon Shells). It also has the Gets Hot! rule like plasma weapons...except if you roll a 1, the 7" blast is centred over the model firing it, so it's a little more painful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/18 03:30:59
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Dakka Veteran
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The few units that have toughness 7 and above tend to be garganuan creatures.
Most versions* of the STR D rules deal with this unit type differantly.
*I beleive the rules in the apoc book and some of the forgeworld books disagree about this effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/18 03:49:14
Subject: Strength D and Toughness 7+
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Veldrain wrote:The few units that have toughness 7 and above tend to be garganuan creatures.
Most versions* of the STR D rules deal with this unit type differantly.
*I beleive the rules in the apoc book and some of the forgeworld books disagree about this effect.
Most, but not all. See also - Wraithlords, and both types of C'Tan.
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