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I thought I knew how Imperials did their teleporting but now I'm not so sure. I thought it was all one way. A to B only. A being a teleport platform/chamber or something usually on a Warship; B being anywhere else. However The new DE codex has the Salamanders being teleported back. Some B to A if you will.

Dawn of War has Terminators teleporting all over the place like Warp Spiders. We'll call that B to C. However, I figured that was just for the video game which takes some liberties. TDA doesn't really have little teleport generators in it does it? And/or Teleport chambers at A can't Teleport people from B to C a la Star Trek can they?

From what I've read, Termies indeed have no teleporting capabilities themselves, however, they seem to have some sort of mechanism which allows them to essentially "return the signal", which would allow them to get back to base or bug out if it hits the fan. They can teleport from A to B, and back again, but to get to C, they have to get back to the original source first.

Never mind.

A-B is a definite. Step into chamber. Zip! There. Ta-da!

B-A would imply some sort of 'Beam me back Scotty' device attached to each person. Would fit TDA and possibly PA, but not Guard (who, let's face it, would never expect to survive a boarding action anyway). Doubtful.

B-C No. Just no. Warp Spiders spring to mind, TDA has (IIRC) no in-built teleporter and Dawn of War needed to make Termies even cooler for some reason... Does the Imperium even have advanced personal teleporter tech? (Excepting the Inquisitor in Ciaphas Cain with the insta-teleport-to-somewhere-else device, but that's unreliable) I don't remember any reliable ones...

So overall, A-B yes, maybe B-A, definitely not (in my view) B-C.

P.S. 100th Post!

Most things built by the imperium are unreliable but they are more reliable than orks stuff which is always a bonus.

Well for the feat Kryptman and his Deathwatch marines teleport megattones(actual weight not yield) into core of some moon and then they detonate it.

For whatever reason Imperial teleportation is very mysterious. I've never read a description of a teleporter. Maybe they wanted to avoid invoking Star Trek images or something or they just assumed we're going to envision a star trek pad.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:For whatever reason Imperial teleportation is very mysterious. I've never read a description of a teleporter. Maybe they wanted to avoid invoking Star Trek images or something or they just assumed we're going to envision a star trek pad.

That's what i did but they teleport thing i imagined was way cooler than the slowly disapear with a little chime in the background.

The Imperial invasion of Commoragh (which was awesome) does seem to imply that not only does the "beam me up scotty" return homer exist but it can be equiped in Power Armour too. Sorry, guardsmen you're on your own.


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purplefood wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:For whatever reason Imperial teleportation is very mysterious. I've never read a description of a teleporter. Maybe they wanted to avoid invoking Star Trek images or something or they just assumed we're going to envision a star trek pad.

That's what i did but they teleport thing i imagined was way cooler than the slowly disapear with a little chime in the background.

Ya, more thunder and lightening and implosiveness.


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IvanTih wrote:Well for the feat Kryptman and his Deathwatch marines teleport megattones(actual weight not yield) into core of some moon and then they detonate it.

Ah that crazy Kryptman. I love that guy. What's this in? It was to kill 'nids I presume?

KamikazeCanuck wrote:For whatever reason Imperial teleportation is very mysterious. I've never read a description of a teleporter. Maybe they wanted to avoid invoking Star Trek images or something or they just assumed we're going to envision a star trek pad.

The device transports you to the Warp and then sends you to some location in the realspace.
There is a slight description in the book Dark Millenium.

IvanTih wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:For whatever reason Imperial teleportation is very mysterious. I've never read a description of a teleporter. Maybe they wanted to avoid invoking Star Trek images or something or they just assumed we're going to envision a star trek pad.

The device transports you to the Warp and then sends you to some location in the realspace.
There is a slight description in the book Dark Millenium.

I know what it does, I just don't know what it looks like.

There was an old sci-fi programme from the 80s called Blake's 7 which used teleporters. I think anything could be beamed one way but you had to have a special wristband to get back.

Basically yes. It creates a tunnel through the warp, and you get sent through that to get wherever you're going.

Termies DEF can't teleport by themselves, unless they're a Librarian. In which case they can indeed teleport themselves a short distance.

Teliporters work by creating a warp tunnel through which the terminators get sent. anyone can get sent through however.

Terminator armor has a built in homer allowing it's bearer to get re-teliported to safety.



Regular Space marines often carry homers with them to allow for extraction as well.

IvanTih wrote:There is a slight description in the book Dark Millenium.

Beat me to it. The story has a squad of Grey Knights being teleported and they are depicted as standing in the centre of a teleport pentagram. Overhead chained lightning leaps between two glass globes. Other than that it doesn't describe the look of the machine in much detail but the Techpriest controlling it struggles to keep the 'gigantic energies' of the teleporter under control and just prior to teleportation the temperature drops sharply.

For B-C, it could a modified version such as B-A-C, where the person is immediately relayed from the ship to another location.

There is a half decent description in the second Vraks book. It's pretty much like star trek except for alot more lightning and stobe effects.

The fluff on Lysanders TitanHammer squad also has him and his terminator squad being teleported back to a ship (I beleive strike cruiser) from battle.

Thats all I have.

Mr Nobody wrote:For B-C, it could a modified version such as B-A-C, where the person is immediately relayed from the ship to another location.

Ya, I guess that's what's going on in Dawn of War.

By the way, if you look at the animation in DoW2, the terminators as they teleport are zapped up, then zapped back down. IE:

A = Strike cruiser
B = First point
C = Second point

A -> B
B -> A
A -> C

In rapid succession.

DoW seems to use b-a-c as there is a delay and no instant teleportation.

Most Awesome teleport was Big E himself (in First Heretic ) zap in and everyone gone blind without protection of Armor ( Space marine armor may dim incoming light ).

Imperial Teleport may not circumvent shields.
But it can aim at a target destination and send you there, thus messing up like in Lysanders backstory ( codex SM 5th ed ) is a risk.
Return per teleport needs a beacon for the teleport array to log on. Size of such tech could vary, Terminator Armor should provide enough space and energy for that.

Melissia wrote:By the way, if you look at the animation in DoW2, the terminators as they teleport are zapped up, then zapped back down. IE:

A = Strike cruiser
B = First point
C = Second point

A -> B
B -> A
A -> C

In rapid succession.

I see. All is right in the world of 40K then.
Makes sense I suppose. Astartes wouldn't teleport away valuable TDA onto an enemy battleship without a way to get it back. Beam me up Scotty!

Yeah, and Thaddeus is just basically said to be a genius when it comes to maneuvering around via teleport.

Only Warp Spiders can do it at the level Thaddeus can, to show his level of skill.

So Eldar are certainly still better than Marines when it comes to teleportation, it's just that Thaddeus and his squad are a special case.