Star Wars and Star Trek, any openly gay characters?

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**Kid_Kyoto**

A quick factual question are there any known gay characters in Star Trek or Star Wars?
I've no real interest in debate whether or not there should be openly gay characters in these franchises, or which characters might be/should be just wondering if there are any.

**WarOne**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:A quick factual question are there any known gay characters in Star Trek or Star Wars?
I've no real interest in debate whether or not there should be openly gay characters in these franchises, or which characters might be/should be just wondering if there are any.

Do you mean characters within the show or the actors who may of played characters?

Either way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_in_Star_Trek

The Pocket Books 1992 guideline for story submission, "How to Submit Creative Material," states: "We are not interested in books that suggest anything other than friendship between Kirk and Spock or any other crewmembers." Except as indicated below, none of the Star Trek films or television series have had any characters officially identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (LGBT), nor have there been stories that directly address LGBT themes. This has prompted Star Trek fans to debate the sexual orientation of certain characters, and whether particular storylines were intended to offer a critique of homophobia.

And it is well known that George Takei is gay (he played Sulu from ST:TOS).

**MeanGreenStompa**

Susan Ivanova was openly lesbian in Babylon 5.

**Ahtman**

Wesley Crusher was pretty gay.

**WarOne**

Ahtman wrote:Wesley Crusher was once a very bright and chipper young lad, but the crushing expectations of being a man-child forced him into early retirement from the show.

Fixed it for ya.

Also, there is implied sexual/deeper affectionate relationships with Spock and Kirk.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Star Wars:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Juhani

Juhani is the first female character written for the Star Wars universe that is a lesbian. An error in the first release of the video game allowed player-characters of both male and female genders to access the Juhani romance sub-plot, leading some people to believe that Juhani was bi-sexual, but the error has since been corrected and the romance sub-plot restricted to female player-characters. Juhani's romance sub-plot is still available to male player-characters via fan-made mods and is still noted as accessible to all player-characters on her Databank entry.

Despite Juhani being a romantic option to the female Revan in the first game, if Revan is set to light-side female in the sequel, it is assumed that Revan had a relationship with Carth Onasi instead, and no mention of Juhani is made. However, both the Juhani and Carth Onasi romance sub-plots are assumed to be non-canon, as Revan is canonically male and had a relationship with Bastila Shan.

**Ribon Fox**

Jadzia Dax when lesbo on DS9's when she met an old wife of one of her past hosts...dose that count?

**Melissia**

The reason there's no sexuality issues in Star Trek is because in the timeframe it is set in, sexuality is a non-issue anyway. This from a certain Captain Sulu.

**generalgrog**

WarOne wrote:
And it is well known that George Takei is gay (he played Sulu from ST:TOS).

Wait...Sulus gay?

sigh....

GG

p.s.

**Perkustin**

Type into google Redlettermedia and once on the site look for the 'Plinkett Review' Of the 2009 Star Trek film. It has a hilarious take on the sexuality of the characters.

**Monster Rain**

I always assume every sci-fi/fantasy character is gay until otherwise indicated.

That's why I didn't bat an eye when J.K. Rowling outed Dumbledore.

**WarOne**

Monster Rain wrote:I always assume every sci-fi/fantasy character is gay until otherwise indicated.

That's why I didn't bat an eye when J.K. Rowling outed Dumbledore.

Harry Potter isn't sci-fi or fantasy.

It's reality television.

Duh.

**Monster Rain**

Actually, its all part of my rock and roll fantasy.

**Melissia**

generalgrog wrote:
WarOne wrote:
And it is well known that George Takei is gay (he played Sulu from ST:TOS).

Wait...Sulus gay?

sigh....

GG

p.s.

Lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s1iQODC5OI

**ShumaGorath**

Star wars in general is pretty gay, but I don't remember any openly gay characters in it. Nor with startrek though after TNG i stop watching. B5 and farscape had openly gay characters, some of which had major roles as well. Star wars and the original star trek were both a bit too early to really have openly gay characters.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

Lost in Space

I often wonder about the Will Robinson, Dr. Zachary Smith, Robot love triangle.

Oh what a tangled web they did weave.

**generalgrog**

Melissia wrote:
generalgrog wrote:
WarOne wrote:
And it is well known that George Takei is gay (he played Sulu from ST:TOS).

Wait...Sulus gay?

sigh....

GG

p.s.

Lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s1iQODC5OI

Yeah I know...I was making a joke referring back to the last sulu/gay thread....

GG

**FITZZ**

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Lost in Space

I often wonder about the Will Robinson, Dr. Zachary Smith, Robot love triangle.

Oh what a tangled web they did weave.

I was just watching an old episode of Lost in Space the other day and marveled at the nonchalant way the Robinson's continually allow their young son to wander off with Dr.Smith.

**Monster Rain**

Danger! Danger! Dr. Smith is touching Will Robinson inappropriately!

**FITZZ**

Monster Rain wrote:Danger! Danger! Dr. Smith is touching Will Robinson inappropriately!

..Exactly.

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

The third season had more adventure, but episodes like "The Great Vegetable Rebellion" — with actor Stanley Adams as Tybo, the talking carrot —

(from Wiki)
never heard THAT euphemism before!

no wonder it got axed after the third series

**Monster Rain**

Danger! Dr. Smith has been communicating with NAMBLA VIA rockoon!

**George Spiggott**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:A quick factual question are there any known gay characters in Star Trek or Star Wars?
I've no real interest in debate whether or not there should be openly gay characters in these franchises, or which characters might be/should be just wondering if there are any.

Can you imagine how bad a gay character would be in Star Wars, given how bad the black and Jewish stereotype characters are?

**Kanluwen**

Whoa whoa whoa.

What's bad about Lando Calrissian?

Dude's a Space Pimp who made it big from casinos. Don't hate.

**Melissia**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seh8cNirlU8

And let's not even get started on Han Solo and Chewbacca.

**Kid_Kyoto**

George Spiggott wrote:Can you imagine how bad a gay character would be in Star Wars, given how bad the black and Jewish stereotype characters are?

Jewish?

Who did I miss?

**A Black Ram**

Melissia wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Seh8cNirlU8

And let's not even get started on Han Solo and Chewbacca.

Chewy.

**George Spiggott**

Kanluwen wrote:Whoa whoa whoa.

What's bad about Lando Calrissian?

Dude's a Space Pimp who made it big from casinos. Don't hate.

In fairness I was referring to his more recent prequel works. But "Hi, I'm the first black character you ever meet. I'm going to sell you out and steal your clothes." fits pretty well.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Jewish?

Who did I miss?

Watto. Jewish stereotype, not Jewish.

**sexiest_hero**

Garak for DS9 had a thing for the doctor. The writers were told to back off of the gay/bi angle when they wrote the books. The actor said the role was supposed to push the sexuality issue.

**Blitza da warboy**

Monster Rain wrote:Danger! Dr. Smith has been communicating with NAMBLA VIA rockoon!

You mean the "National American Marlon Brando look-alikes?"

Sorry i just had to say it

(South Park ftw

)

**Hordini**

George Spiggott wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:Whoa whoa whoa.

What's bad about Lando Calrissian?

Dude's a Space Pimp who made it big from casinos. Don't hate.
In fairness I was referring to his more recent prequel works. But "Hi, I'm the first black character you ever meet. I'm going to sell you out and steal your clothes." fits pretty well.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Jewish?
Who did I miss?
Watto. Jewish stereotype, not Jewish.

I'm not trying to bust your balls George, but I think Lando has a lot more depth as a character than you're giving him credit for.

And as for Watto being a Jewish stereotype, I'm not sure I totally get it. Does that just mean every hard-bargaining merchant character is automatically a Jewish stereotype?