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Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Kanluwen wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

thesilverback wrote:The front wheel does look low but cool now I can build motorized units.

Hi guys, the model is not assembled, it was dry fitted (in fact the right side has no armor or wheels on it).

Im looking at an area of about $13 for the kit (this may change).

So why post pictures of it then?

Not trying to be mean or anything, but at least fully assemble(or blutac) both sides to avoid things like this.

It also isnt abnormal for the front/rear wheels of a vehicle to sit lower (without suspension compressed) so the vehicle doesnt get high centered.

Dude...if you make one of these for a rhino I would so get it!!!!! I have been looking for something like this for a rhino for a long time.

But otherwise...LOOKS SWEET!!!!

Not seeing it there Grundz.

If it's simply a case of "the other side wasn't on" then that may solve it.

Kanluwen wrote:
Not seeing it there Grundz.

try lifting the vehicle off the ground
having 20 tons of APC on top tends to compress the vehicles suspension, as I stated.

Kanluwen wrote:The tires themselves are fine.

The hull they're attached to isn't sized properly from the way it looks.

Aw, crap.
Did I just agree with you on something?

Dang it!


Eric

Any way to get some front and back shots of the APC style, not just the sides. I would like to see the profile of it.

Grundz wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
Not seeing it there Grundz.

try lifting the vehicle off the ground
having 20 tons of APC on top tends to compress the vehicles suspension, as I stated.

So how is it that the front tire is down?

MagickalMemories wrote:Aw, crap.
Did I just agree with you on something?

Dang it!


Eric

MWHAHAHAHA! This is how it starts!

One agreement leads to a lifetime of awesomeness!

Any idea of the cost yet?
(Ball-park figure acceptable)

Chapterhouse wrote:Coming out this month, we have the Rapid Response Wheeled kit for the Imperial Guard Chimera. Consist of 2 side hulls, 6 wheels and Front Heavy "bumper":

Interesting... it bears a striking resemblence to the European Pandur;

I think this kit is very conducive to Ork players....

Good release!

Sweet! Chapterhouse will be getting more of my money very shortly!

Do we have a release date for that Chimera kit yet?

I like this because of the picture somone showed of a stryker.... I drove them back when and I like that style/feel.

looks like i've found my arbite patrol vehicles!

I am making a Pre-Heresy Thousand Army (based off the Grey Knights codex). These would be great to make the Chimeras look "older". I think I will be picking up a couple of these.

nkelsch wrote:I dunno... this design suffers from something I see a lot in the ork conversion forums. It looks like the mechanics of the wheels simply wouldn't be functional per the design of the vehicle. The wheels are too big for the clearance of the wheelwells and the design of tank means those Axel's and wheel turning areas would cut into other parts of the model.

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While I agree with that, I also think it is the normal pattern for Imperial vehicles. They aren't designed for practical reasons. They are designed to lock chunky and brutish.

Kanluwen wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

I think its coming from how Nick mocked it up for the photo. You can't really glue the master together. If you guys want to see the WIP, go to the link in my sig.

aka_mythos wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

I think its coming from how Nick mocked it up for the photo. You can't really glue the master together. If you guys want to see the WIP, go to the link in my sig.

Looked at it. Not sold on it myself(there's still just that sense of 'something off' and I can't put my finger entirely on it even seeing the full digital mock-up), but it reminds me of the Aliens APC which is sure to get some love from folks who want something like that.

Wow, very nice. The front wheel does look a bit 'off', but I assumed it was due to the dry fit, as Nick said.

Who made the kit, if I may ask?

- H8

aka_mythos wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

I think its coming from how Nick mocked it up for the photo. You can't really glue the master together. If you guys want to see the WIP, go to the link in my sig.

Is that this?




It does look a lot more balanced in the CAD.

Buzzsaw wrote:
Interesting... it bears a striking resemblence to ...

Hatemonger wrote:
Who made the kit, if I may ask?

I made it, its meant to inspire a modern APC feel. So I did look at alot of different wheeled armored vehicles to develope the look I wanted for it. I really wanted to do more, but the scope of the project left some of my ideas for a possible later upgrade kit... alternate back door, an alternate turret, a piece to allow the turret to be mounted over the crew compartment... etc.

The proportion of the wheels were based around the average sized wheels you see on most APC and the ground clearance as well. Making them work for the conversion kit was just a matter of widening them for the "heroic" scale. The digital model was made so that the wheels could freely turn the same number of degrees a modern APC's wheels can... I just can't remember... 10-15 degrees I think.

Believe it or not the Aliens M557 APC did not have anything to do with this. This started as a bit of a personal project that I pitched to CH. They liked how it was going and okayed it. The concept started as... "the modern military uses vehicles like the stryker because its lighter and allows for an easier airlift capability... the [expunged] guard, are suppose to be a high mobility force and though rare if they were using a ground transport would likely need something that follows that same approach." At the same time I had the notion of making something that looked more road worthy for urban combat.

Natakue wrote:Dude...if you make one of these for a rhino I would so get it!!!!! I have been looking for something like this for a rhino for a long time.

It would be much harder for a rhino and likely not worth while as a conversion kit, since so much of that kit is the sides of the tank.

Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just not really getting 'modern APC' from it. It gives more of the Aliens APC vibe or a cartoonerized modern APC.

But that may just be because of heroic scale and the rather(being generous here) lacking GW Chimera model itself.

Kanluwen wrote:Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just not really getting 'modern APC' from it. It gives more of the Aliens APC vibe or a cartoonerized modern APC.

But that may just be because of heroic scale and the rather(being generous here) lacking GW Chimera model itself.

I understand... I'd say its that compromise between modern and anachronistic gothic hero scale. I'd only say it looks more "modern" than the unmoded kit.

Ya'll should seriously consider a version using the (near) future tire:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/tweel-airless-tire2.htm

aka_mythos wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Like I said, I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just not really getting 'modern APC' from it. It gives more of the Aliens APC vibe or a cartoonerized modern APC.

But that may just be because of heroic scale and the rather(being generous here) lacking GW Chimera model itself.

I understand... I'd say its that compromise between modern and anachronistic gothic hero scale. I'd only say it looks more "modern" than the unmoded kit.

Just didn't want you to think I was poo-pooing on the idea just for fun.

LavuranGuard wrote:Nick, are the IG style weapons/equipment going to be available soon (hopefully at the same time as the not-guardwomen)? (I've a couple of projects needing
Shotguns, Autoguns (need lots of these!) and Hellguns.)

As another idea for the future, some IG style arms without guns attached (like the Catachan ones) would be very useful so swapping in other weapons, also not having the huge shoulder pads would be good too - again I've a few projects that could benefit from these.

I second this question!

Also the chimera conversion look pretty neat! I had been considering kitbashing rhinos and chimeras for my urban guard army, but this might do the trick.

nkelsch wrote:

Ilmarinen wrote:...and the consequences could have repercussions for all of us.

Like GW no longer releasing rules that don't have models the way they murdered all the Blood Bowl special characters rules and removed them from the game. Not sure how well a 'doom of Malanti' stand-in model will do on the already small niche market if there are no rules for him... and if GW waits for an official model before releasing rules then I am not sure how profitable the effort is especially if the GW model kicks mad ass. If GW makes it a habit of withholding rules to limit people from infringing, it harms the game and the community. We will see how future codexes are when they are released or if they make a shift back to limited codexes with chapter-approved articles for new releases.

But I guess one market which will always exist is the 'take a model and give it bewbs' market. But I play Orks and my models are based on a bewb-free model society...

You don't remember the Orc Cheerleader? Or the even more terrifyingly female Orc mother with young? Oh the horror of gravity...

Consul Scipio wrote:Ya'll should seriously consider a version using the (near) future tire:

Well you see, this vehicle can adjust its tire air pressure to adjust ground clearance and suspension. Airless tires can't do that. The airless look also wouldn't work too well in casting... they'd be difficult to cast... and probably break under the weight of the kit.


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bubber wrote:Any idea of the cost yet?
(Ball-park figure acceptable)

I know he added it after you asked, but I think its helpful to point out again.

Chapterhouse wrote:
Im looking at an area of about $13 for the kit (this may change).

Kolath wrote:

LavuranGuard wrote:Nick, are the IG style weapons/equipment going to be available soon (hopefully at the same time as the not-guardwomen)? (I've a couple of projects needing
Shotguns, Autoguns (need lots of these!) and Hellguns.)

As another idea for the future, some IG style arms without guns attached (like the Catachan ones) would be very useful so swapping in other weapons, also not having the huge shoulder pads would be good too - again I've a few projects that could benefit from these.

I second this question!
Also the chimera conversion look pretty neat! I had been considering kitbashing rhinos and chimeras for my urban guard army, but this might do the trick.

For CH I did some human weapons a while ago... they've just been waiting for another guy to do the arms... so I know CH is working on something.