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I like the chimera upgrade. I'd also love to see a half track version somehow.. like, the wheels up front and treads behind instead of twin wheels?

bubber wrote:Any idea of the cost yet?
(Ball-park figure acceptable)

Chapterhouse wrote:Im looking at an area of about $13 for the kit (this may change).

Necros wrote:I like the chimera upgrade. I'd also love to see a half track version somehow.. like, the wheels up front and treads behind instead of twin wheels?

That was one of my ideas thats sitting on a back burner... dependent on how well this sells... its for those very germanic looking armies out there. The plan would be using the same sides and wheels, to do as you say to replace the back wheels. The front end would likely get piece to give it a more truck look.

Manchu wrote:

bubber wrote:Any idea of the cost yet?
(Ball-park figure acceptable)

Chapterhouse wrote:Im looking at an area of about $13 for the kit (this may change).

The price is right...

Feels like the wheels should be slightly smaller or 'dropped' so they are higher clearance to the wheel wells. The tight fit almost makes me think of a chibi/SD vehicle design.

I am totally willing to reserve judgement until I see a assembled and painted model with the kit... It could be just a crappy dryfit job which is nice to share but i am not sure is great for first impressions.

nkelsch wrote: It could be just a crappy dryfit job which is nice to share but i am not sure is great for first impressions.

ChapterHouseStudios wrote:Hi guys, the model is not assembled, it was dry fitted (in fact the right side has no armor or wheels on it).

Manchu wrote:

nkelsch wrote: It could be just a crappy dryfit job which is nice to share but i am not sure is great for first impressions.

ChapterHouseStudios wrote:Hi guys, the model is not assembled, it was dry fitted (in fact the right side has no armor or wheels on it).

I know... and I question releasing a crappy dryfit photo to showcase a commercial product you wish to sell to potential customers.

This isn't the same as a fan getting ahold of a dirty prototype picture not mean for customer consumption, when you are the point of release you shouldn't have prototype leaks, you should have clean marketing photos that always make your products look the best they can.

Yeah, which is hard to remember when we complain about GW.

In all seriousness, really didn't think that CHS would take so much flak for the dryfitting photo. I'm a little puzzled considering most of us are more into the wargaming than the fine scale modelling aspect . . . or so I thought.

Manchu wrote:Yeah, which is hard to remember when we complain about GW.

In all seriousness, really didn't think that CHS would take so much flak for the dryfitting photo. I'm a little puzzled considering most of us are more into the wargaming than the fine scale modelling aspect . . . or so I thought.

Most of the flak was before the dryfitting aspect was revealed

I want to wait to show the complete package until we have the final cast painted and assembled up. So people may want to reserve judgement until the final photos are shown.

Here are some shots of the girls assembled with some standard cadian arms.. Notice the feminine rear ends? We are having some different heads worked on.


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nkelsch wrote:

Manchu wrote:

nkelsch wrote: It could be just a crappy dryfit job which is nice to share but i am not sure is great for first impressions.

ChapterHouseStudios wrote:Hi guys, the model is not assembled, it was dry fitted (in fact the right side has no armor or wheels on it).

I know... and I question releasing a crappy dryfit photo to showcase a commercial product you wish to sell to potential customers.

This isn't the same as a fan getting ahold of a dirty prototype picture not mean for customer consumption, when you are the point of release you shouldn't have prototype leaks, you should have clean marketing photos that always make your products look the best they can.

It is a teaser photo, the same as all the other photos many of us smaller companies release. Do trollforged and the other companies get bashed on work in progress and pre-release photos as well? Seems there is a much higher standard for everything CHS does (including teaser photos).

booty shot at the end thats just classy.....

gotta figure a way of making arbite crew members for chimeras AND rhinos now

You can shape their flak armour around their tits, you can suck their trousers into their ass cracks, but as long as they use plastic cadian arms they will never look right.

The chimera wheels came out pretty nice though.

aka_mythos wrote:
For CH I did some human weapons a while ago... they've just been waiting for another guy to do the arms... so I know CH is working on something.

Ah I'd only seen the ones from Hits, did you have artwork of yours up anywhere? I'm intrigued!

As someone already mentioned (sort of), I really hope there are Arbites in C:SoB 5th. Your newest release will certainly pick up traction (har har) in that case. Can't wait to see better pics -- but I would suggest waiting, given the respons so far . . .

Chapterhouse wrote:It is a teaser photo, the same as all the other photos many of us smaller companies release. Do trollforged and the other companies get bashed on work in progress and pre-release photos as well? Seems there is a much higher standard for everything CHS does (including teaser photos).

Okay. You need to step back a bit and realize that you did not label it as such. You did not specify "there may be some issues as it's not actually assembled and just is a dryfit".

A great amount of the earlier comments were due to, by your accounts, the fact that it's a "dryfit". That information wasn't known.

Yeah, Im not sold on the idea of having people buy seperate cadian arms. My main thoughts were the ease of using preexisting weapons everyone knew about. I now have some folks working on arms for them.

Im sure some people will be more then happy to use the GW arms though. Personally, it does not look off in my opinion. (in other words, it wouldnt bother me none if I played IG).


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Kanluwen wrote:

Chapterhouse wrote:It is a teaser photo, the same as all the other photos many of us smaller companies release. Do trollforged and the other companies get bashed on work in progress and pre-release photos as well? Seems there is a much higher standard for everything CHS does (including teaser photos).

Okay. You need to step back a bit and realize that you did not label it as such. You did not specify "there may be some issues as it's not actually assembled and just is a dryfit".

A great amount of the earlier comments were due to, by your accounts, the fact that it's a "dryfit". That information wasn't known.

My apologies then, release photos generally include a link and pricing for any future reference to future photos

Love the fast response chimera kit, pity its not just a full APC kit, like the custom built ones in white dwarf.
Tbh i'm really surprise fw ai'nt done it yet, or cargo 6 or troop trucks. but fab work.

Chapterhouse wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Chapterhouse wrote:It is a teaser photo, the same as all the other photos many of us smaller companies release. Do trollforged and the other companies get bashed on work in progress and pre-release photos as well? Seems there is a much higher standard for everything CHS does (including teaser photos).

Okay. You need to step back a bit and realize that you did not label it as such. You did not specify "there may be some issues as it's not actually assembled and just is a dryfit".

A great amount of the earlier comments were due to, by your accounts, the fact that it's a "dryfit". That information wasn't known.

My apologies then, release photos generally include a link and pricing for any future reference to future photos

It can't hurt to simply put "This is the master, before it's going out for casting. As a result it's not actually assembled, it's just dryfitted", can it?

Okay, no need to belabor the point after clarification.

That last Cadian sort of looks like "she" is in Pigtails from the back. (With my old eyes.) The big man hands rather remind me of a Transvestive that I knew who used to come into the bar. Massive steam-shovel hands and toned waxed legs that tricked several geezers from behind. I think it might be better to just bite the bullet and do some "girl" arms. Unless the end goal is an LGBT Regiment....

Edit for clarity: I worked behind the bar. It wasn't a gay bar, hence the entertaining surprise when "that bird with the legs" was revealed as "Christ its a bloke."

Finally, so getting one when it hits the digital shelves.

Chapterhouse wrote:Yeah, Im not sold on the idea of having people buy seperate cadian arms. My main thoughts were the ease of using preexisting weapons everyone knew about. I now have some folks working on arms for them.

Im sure some people will be more then happy to use the GW arms though. Personally, it does not look off in my opinion. (in other words, it wouldnt bother me none if I played IG).

Great news!

While GW arms may or may not be fine (don't want to really get drawn on this) it's nice to be able to buy something that doesn't require me to either buy a whole box for just the arms, or raid the Bits stores so I welcome the move. As I posted before extra arms to be used on GW Cadians would be good too, especially since their hands are cast on the guns making weapon swaps tricky. Also arms without or with removable shoulder pads would be neat as they would be more useful for people making Praetorians or other IG styles that don't have Cadian body armour.

Simon

ArbeitsSchu wrote: Unless the end goal is an LGBT Regiment....

Seems a bit redundant since we already have Dark Angels . . .

I keed. Sort of. I agree with ArbeitSchu here. Female miniatures generate the most scrutiny of all. It will be tough not to do this holistically.

Manchu wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote: Unless the end goal is an LGBT Regiment....

Seems a bit redundant since we already have Dark Angels . . .

Ha!

Manchu wrote:

ArbeitsSchu wrote: Unless the end goal is an LGBT Regiment....

Seems a bit redundant since we already have Dark Angels . . .

I keed. Sort of. I agree with ArbeitSchu here. Female miniatures generate the most scrutiny of all. It will be tough not to do this holistically.

I think Female miniatures in the heroic scale are some of the hardest things to get right. The accentuated features that distinguish male characters are obviously different from females, so when you're holding certain details constant, like armor and weapons you're really fighting the way you have to reproportionalize details to a female figure. Realistically if you had a male and female soldier standing at such a distance as to appear the height of a miniature, you couldn't tell them apart. Thus good details end up being generally subtle... and bad detail ends up cartoony with parts that look inflated.

I love the wheeled chimera pieces... very nice!

I think the female torso and legs are done pretty well. I don't see anything worth complaining about there.
if I was playing IG and buying those, though, I'd have to convert every arm I wanted to put on them. The IG arms just don't look right to me. The arms look masculine, and the shoulder pads (to me) just seem WAAAY to big.

So, I like *YOUR* portions of that model.


Eric

I'll echo a lot of the sentiments posted by several dakkanauts so far: The CH parts of the IG girls look great! Cadian arms on them, not so much. The arms are as long as and bigger around than their legs, and they look a bit like gorilla women, proportionally. Assuming the arms you've got in the works come out as well as the rest has, you'll be golden!

Wheeled chassis soon and 2 FW Griffons coming already? Could I get any happier?

Looking good on the Chimera tracks, even with just the teaser.

...now any update on the Jetbikes?

Jetbikes are still very much in the preliminary phase. While I do have CAD versions of them, we are busy with many other things and it will probably be next month until the basic one is even printed up.