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Fraz liked Superman and disliked Captain America and, I believe, Avengers? Well, time to face it. Fraz has gone senile people. Time to let him sit on his porch with his puppies.

Considering I don't know anyone who liked Captain America personally, suck it! (yea I know logic failure there, but its demonstrative of a very different demographic). Maybe watching things like African Queen put me in a different mindset when it comes to half ass decent writing. Plus I don't read comics. I think I read three as a child, and then Dark Knight.

Avengers storyline was meh. It had a big boring center. It would have been better as just the Bruce Banner/ Tony Stark Banter hour. I would have liked that a lot better actually (and would have fit Whedon's style...). My hopes that Thor would get killed by a small bunny were sadly not to be.


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 Ahtman wrote:

 NecronLord3 wrote:
No they're huge. And it has everything to do with whether it good or not.

Nitpicking rarely has determined the overall quality for a film or it's entertainment value, and most of the time what people call plotholes are not plotholes at all. A plothole requires an internal inconsistency within the diegesis of the film, of which there isn't anything blatant in the film that does that.

AHTMAN USED A TEN DOLLAR WORD. HE"S LERNT MORE GOODER! FRAZZLED HEAQD SPINNING.


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 Alpharius wrote:
That list is the very definition of "Nitpicking".

NL3 has got a serious axe to grind vs. MoS.

Who knows why?

He's just jealous of the smoking hot Kryptonian second in command. Now thats a reboot!!!

Watched Avengers again yesterday and I don't get the complaints about the casualties in MoS in comparison. Metropolis had more time to evacuate then they did in Manhattan, and during the battle in Metropolis in MoS the buildings are mostly abandoned, whereas in the Avengers they show people still at work the whole time. There is even a scene where the Chitari(sp) jump though windows and just unload on the people there. I wouldn't be surprised if the casualty rate in MoS was smaller whereas damage to the city was greater, and vice versa in Avengers.

 Frazzled wrote:

Fraz liked Superman and disliked Captain America and, I believe, Avengers? Well, time to face it. Fraz has gone senile people. Time to let him sit on his porch with his puppies.

Considering I don't know anyone who liked Captain America personally, suck it! (yea I know logic failure there, but its demonstrative of a very different demographic).

Thats because Captain America isn't a "real american"

 Grundz wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

Fraz liked Superman and disliked Captain America and, I believe, Avengers? Well, time to face it. Fraz has gone senile people. Time to let him sit on his porch with his puppies.

Considering I don't know anyone who liked Captain America personally, suck it! (yea I know logic failure there, but its demonstrative of a very different demographic).

Thats because Captain America isn't a "real american"

wait... wut?

 Grundz wrote:

Thats because Captain America isn't a "real american"

"Christopher Robert Evans was born on June 13th, 1981 in Sudbury, Massachusetts"

I don't understand.

Yes and no - the Avengers battle is over a very short time period - although its amusing that traffic was driving normally in some of the later street shots of Metropolis as the punch up goes on and on...........I did think the post attack sequence was better - in Avengers it was - what does it all mean, whose fault was it, we are not alone etc. MoS - back to work as normal in the newspaper building (whihc I thought fell down..........)

Cap A was in my opionion a pretty poor film - the action was subpar GI Joe - at least in that film the baddies minions could actually shoot. Poor main baddie too.

It was a bit wierd that Sups lost his powers due to the atmospheric chnage but could fly / surivive fine in space...........

Also I thought it amusing that Sups dad wanted a "better world" where his superpowered son could rule over lesser beings as a god. But then the dad was pretty much a classic supervillian ?

Evil Lair outside city.
Wierd created space dragon monster to fly around on.
super genius and ninja fighting skills.
Disdain for your civilisations culture etc.

I reckon he caused the planet to explode

Final thought:

Megamind much better film than Man of Steel!

 kronk wrote:

 Grundz wrote:

Thats because Captain America isn't a "real american"

"Christopher Robert Evans was born on June 13th, 1981 in Sudbury, Massachusetts"

I don't understand.

http://wikiality.wikia.com/Real_Americans

 Mr Morden wrote:


Megamind much better film than Man of Steel!

Now you're just trolling us!

Oh Stephen Colbert! You rascal, you!

 Grundz wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Grundz wrote:

Thats because Captain America isn't a "real american"

"Christopher Robert Evans was born on June 13th, 1981 in Sudbury, Massachusetts"

I don't understand.

http://wikiality.wikia.com/Real_Americans

Heh... funnyz.

 kronk wrote:
Oh Stephen Colbert! You rascal, you!

I'm just saying if Captain america represented what Texas wants our values to be and was a racist misogynist xenophobe, he'd be better received in texas and frazzled would know people that liked him.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Yes and no - the Avengers battle is over a very short time period - although its amusing that traffic was driving normally in some of the later street shots of Metropolis as the punch up goes on and on...........I did think the post attack sequence was better - in Avengers it was - what does it all mean, whose fault was it, we are not alone etc. MoS - back to work as normal in the newspaper building (whihc I thought fell down..........)

Cap A was in my opionion a pretty poor film - the action was subpar GI Joe - at least in that film the baddies minions could actually shoot. Poor main baddie too.

It was a bit wierd that Sups lost his powers due to the atmospheric chnage but could fly / surivive fine in space...........

Also I thought it amusing that Sups dad wanted a "better world" where his superpowered son could rule over lesser beings as a god. But then the dad was pretty much a classic supervillian ?

Evil Lair outside city.
Wierd created space dragon monster to fly around on.
super genius and ninja fighting skills.
Disdain for your civilisations culture etc.

I reckon he caused the planet to explode

Final thought:

Megamind much better film than Man of Steel!

Oh yea Megamind was unrefined awesomesauce.


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 Grundz wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Oh Stephen Colbert! You rascal, you!

I'm just saying if Captain america represented what Texas wants our values to be and was a racist misogynist xenophobe, he'd be better received in texas and frazzled would know people that liked him.

I do believe you just called me a racist. If you're in Austin this weekend we could discuss that personally.

 Frazzled wrote:

I do believe you just called me a racist. If you're in Austin this weekend we could discuss that personally.

Report him like I just did.

 Frazzled wrote:

I do believe you just called me a racist. If you're in Austin this weekend we could discuss that personally.

I know you're not racist as long as their's only dumpy pasty white dudes around, you could always call mom!

 kronk wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

I do believe you just called me a racist. If you're in Austin this weekend we could discuss that personally.

Report him like I just did.

Private you keep this up and you're going on report!

I'd love to go on the Colbert Report.

 Frazzled wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

I do believe you just called me a racist. If you're in Austin this weekend we could discuss that personally.

Report him like I just did.

Private you keep this up and you're going on report!

Moms always make the best PB and Js.

 Frazzled wrote:

Fraz liked Superman and disliked Captain America and, I believe, Avengers? Well, time to face it. Fraz has gone senile people. Time to let him sit on his porch with his puppies.

Considering I don't know anyone who liked Captain America personally, suck it! (yea I know logic failure there, but its demonstrative of a very different demographic). Maybe watching things like African Queen put me in a different mindset when it comes to half ass decent writing. Plus I don't read comics. I think I read three as a child, and then Dark Knight.

Avengers storyline was meh. It had a big boring center. It would have been better as just the Bruce Banner/ Tony Stark Banter hour. I would have liked that a lot better actually (and would have fit Whedon's style...). My hopes that Thor would get killed by a small bunny were sadly not to be.

I'm a huge Cap fan since my childhood, and I didn't hate the Cap movie. They got the uniform right. It just wasn't what it could have been, which was a little more Saving Private Ryan and Batman Begins. The Marvel films keep it very light and kid-friendly, which I fully understand and is a smart business move. But Cap represents some of Marvel's best, most grounded material, and it was partially wasted by the film.

And while some would feel this is a nitpick, I feel it isn't -- the Red Skull needs to be a Nazi. Period. Not a was-Nazi, not a sort-of-Nazi. If they want to make him a Super Soldier, fine. But the most important point about the character is that Hitler personally trained him to be the perfect Nazi and representation of Nazi ideals, and Cap is his counterpoint. I know the business reasons why he wasn't, but it hurt the film IMO to make Cap vs. the Red Skull as some kind of separate, private war going on with WWII as the backdrop, instead of being a representation of the greater conflict, with both Cap and the Red Skull getting involved in the fighting alongside regular troops, etc.

The Avengers was a fun romp. It's fun just seeing them on screen together, and the movie has a good mix of humor and action. You have to give Whedon credit for keeping it all together, because that many superhero characters in one film has major trainwreck potential. But it was a thin plot, and the Loki character was reduced to being a garden-variety mustache-twirling villain. After repeat viewings, I still like the film, but probably a little less than I originally did.

Man of Steel isn't a perfect movie either. But I submit that it's actually a much smarter film than some people are giving it credit for, and a lot of nitpicks that people are making about it are easily answered or not actually supported by the film.

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