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Very Nice Samurai. Especially for anyone who may have lost cards or picked up models second hand without the cards.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback.

Hey all. Ids this the right place to get some suggested lists for BMG?

I'm just starting to get into the game and have settled on picking up a big bane (the Arkham Asylum one) crew, and I'd appreciate some suggestions for a 300 point list.

I'd like to keep it to as few purchases as possible, and I've heard that the goon with the automatic rifle and night vision goggles is awesome, as if the guy with Bodyguard, but really the only must have is bane.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Here's the simplest I can come up with that ticks all the bases. Buy:

Big Bane- because of course!

Bane Thugs Set 1- This gives you the Venom Soldier, who can flatten most henchmen on his own, will draw some fire and has Bodyguard. Think of him as mini-Bane and stick the two close together for best use. The set also gets you TNT, who is packing the lethal Assault Rifle. While I prefer Dallas from the Bane starter for my Bane crew's Assault Rifling needs, TNT is tougher (and thus more forgiving for a beginner) and has the Order trait which can be used to buff nearby Henchmen should they need the Action Counters.

Arkham Asylum Inmates Set 1: This gives you Mezz and Meatman, two nice mid-range cheap henchmen to score objectives and run interference while Bane is smashing stuff. They come to a nice 50 Rep together, and as a bonus can be used in any Bad Guy team you fancy running down the line (except the Court of Owls)

That gives you a nice 300 Rep force, with enough models that you shouldn't be outnumbered any more than you'd expect from having 150 points tied up in Bane. The list itself looks like this:

Leader: Bane 150 Rep $0

Henchmen:
Venom Soldier: 57 Rep $0
T.N.T.: 43 Rep 600$ (+Night Vision Goggles @ $200)
Mezz: 24 Rep $0
Meatman: 26 Rep $100 (+Titan Dose @ $100)

That's exactly what I was after, thanks!

So to be certain, these are what I want?

http://knightmodels-store.com/epages/afaa2a23-c31d-4ae6-b1cd-12757513fd3b.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/afaa2a23-c31d-4ae6-b1cd-12757513fd3b/Products/35DC006

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Yep, that's the ones.

Awesome, thank you.

I played some Marvel tonight. My opponents first 50 point game, my fourth.

I've got to say my opponent left very disheartened with the game.

My X-Men list of Magneto, Colossus, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Cyclops, Gambit

Against

Deadpool, Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Vision.

Basically, the combo of Jean, Magneto and Colossus when they all got together was just too much for him, particularly on the second turn when Jean triggered her force field which effectively made my whole team immune to damage. That same turn, I did Gambit and Magneto's big attacks.

"You just did a lot of amazing stuff and I'm having to suit here and not even have PS of doing a single damage to you"

Gotta say, it kinda sucked the fun of tossing a building at someone. I had never used Jean Grey before and my experiences of Magneto in a Brotherhood list have been... Less than impressive so I didn't really see all that coming as a possibility until after it.

For those of you who have used the Hulk and the Hulk Buster Iron man how do they play?

seems pretty clear that they dd not play test the rules or characters enough. With the BMG rules it's harder to notice the imbalances since the rules themselves are a little murky in some places. MMUG is a clean and concise set of rules that shows the lack of play testing much easier.
(of course you can't bring these issues up on any of the 'official" groups or you will be banned)

 Compel wrote:
I played some Marvel tonight. My opponents first 50 point game, my fourth.

I've got to say my opponent left very disheartened with the game.

My X-Men list of Magneto, Colossus, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Cyclops, Gambit

Against

Deadpool, Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Vision.

Basically, the combo of Jean, Magneto and Colossus when they all got together was just too much for him, particularly on the second turn when Jean triggered her force field which effectively made my whole team immune to damage. That same turn, I did Gambit and Magneto's big attacks.

"You just did a lot of amazing stuff and I'm having to suit here and not even have PS of doing a single damage to you"

Gotta say, it kinda sucked the fun of tossing a building at someone. I had never used Jean Grey before and my experiences of Magneto in a Brotherhood list have been... Less than impressive so I didn't really see all that coming as a possibility until after it.

Played my first Batman game in a while. Another victory for Joker!

My opponent used the Reverse Flash which was our first speedster. I think we (Well my opponent since I don't the new book) managed to get the rules for speed force wrong.

Luckily despite him using too many powers and in the wrong order the Reverse Flash is terrible at fighting and went straight for Joker. Soon to be followed by Joker and his henchmen beating him to death.

Also since I'm playing again and like reading about it is there a more chatty forum? Facebook just seems to be just for posting pictures of your models and the old forums seems to have been overrun by spam bots.

The Arkham City Limits group is the main discussion place for Batman.

I used the Reverse Flash in the game for the first time recently too.

Basically, he can only use one speed force power per round and he can use up to a level 5 power - so that means no tripling his attacks and no placing him anywhere on the board.

However he is still able to either double his attacks for the round, or be moved 10/20/30cms before people start placing tokens.

And that's in reality the practical guide to how reverse Flash works.

I found that he's fine. Charging into a horde of clowns, not a good idea but he feels sufficiently killy that he could take down a non close combat focused boss or free agent.

4 in attacks (doubling to 8) plus 3 in move is still good enough if you start the turn in base contact with someone to have a good punch at them then speed away to an objective.

I found that 'running' wasn't worth while - you never get 30cm in a straight line on my boards. But 15cm plus 2-3 rerollable d6 is plenty of distance.

The main thing I found is you spending a lot of points on basically not killing major models of note.

My opponent got mixed up between Flash and Reverse Flash! So we got some things wrong right away.

Yeah, the Flash I'm sure is a completely different kettle of fish. Either version, actually. - Speed Force Master is a bit of a game changer.

Ok, so I get my Sabertooth model tomorrow. And I REALLY want to run a Weapon X team. Nobody in my areas cares about affiliation, but there is a missing member: Maverick. If anyone is unsure of his power/ability set, he's got a form of regen, absorbs (and as of recently channels) kinetic impact, good hand to hand combatant and carried a large high caliber gun and grenade abilities. I'd like to make a custom card for him allowing for these abilities. And I'm curious on points suggestions and such.
He should have willpower similar to wolverine, regen, a 2/Green absorption defense against kinetic attacks, probably an attack of 6 and a power of 6, a Red ability to unleash stored kinetic energy, a blue grenade launcher ability from his gun, hand to hand green attack (classic punch or kick), and a green shooting ability. Thoughts for points? I'm thinking between 6-8, maybe just going with an easy 7. I can't see him being higher than 8, but 6 feels borderline too low.

Couldn't you just make him a duplicate of Deadpool, maybe swap out bodyslide for a once per game attack equivalent to Cyclops' blue?

I'd still like to have the absorption of kinetic impact in there. As a 2/G. Making the bodyslide into a Cyclops' Blue and giving him the absorption sounds like a good plan though, with the same point cost. I might up the damage from pistol to assault rifle by a single point though. With an increased cost of 1 as well. What do you think?

After much debate it looks I can no longer hold out against how cool the Dr. Doom model looks.

Are there any suggestions on which starter works best with him or is it just a tossup?

He's probably best suited to joining the Dark Avengers; he could technically run with the regular Avengers as he's neutral, but that makes far less sense. Just be aware that to use Doom with the Dark Avengers, you'll need to drop one of their cheaper models to ft him into the standard 50-level list, I think.

Ok, so dipping into Batman. I bought stuff based on "rule of cool" and can branch from there. What type of team can be made (if any) from Batman (basic), Nightwing, Red Hood (JT), and Robin (TD)?

Oh, and I have regular Deathstroke too. Cuz reasons.

None of the models are arkham or movie/tv affiliated.

Basically you've got a full Batman crew there! At 350 Rep, the upper end of the standard, you can play that as:

Leader: Batman (Dark Knight Returns)- 109
Sidekick: Nightwing- 85
Free Agents: Robin (Arkham City)- 68
Red Hood (Arkham Knight)- 88

Don't know if those profiles match up with the models you have, but all the cards are free on the KM site so there's no reason not to use them. Batman, Tim and Jason all have multiple versions, so you've got some options for the start. For example, at 300 (the other end of the standard, you can go with:
Batman (Arkham Origins)
Robin (Arkam City)
Red Hood (regular)

Deathstroke can be added to most bad guy crews, and has two profiles as well.

Play around with this page and you'll find all the cards and stats, and be able to see what you can fit in a team:
http://bmg-builder.com/batman.html

None of the models have relation to Arkham Knight/City, the movies or TV. Batman is the regular one with no additional title, Red Hood is the one with the two outstretched guns, Nightwing has his escrima/kali sticks, and Robin has his hood and staff in front of him with both hands holding it. While it sounds like I can sub rules since most of those characters have multiple cards, I'm definitely looking at the options those versions start with.

Sounds like that's the Arkham City Batman, Robin and Nightwing, then (The AC isn't listed as they were released before duplicates start popping up) and the comic Red Hood... using those exact profiles it's not possible to do a legal list as Comic Hood and Nightwing are both Sidekicks (you can have 2 Sidekicks if you don't take a Leader, but obviously, Batman is one of those). So if you really want to play it like that, you can take Bats, Tim and either Nightwing or Hood, but not both.

Honestly, though, I really wouldn't worry about matching profiles to models, this isn't a WYSIWYG game, the cards are all (literally) on the table so there can't be any confusion as to the version you're using, and there's there's nothing inherently Arkham/Nolan/Comic ect about the profiles. For example, the Red Hood profiles for the comic and Arkham versions both boil down to 'acrobatic dude with guns', they just have different strengths and weaknesses- Comic Hood can fire both his guns in a turn under certain circumstances, while Arkham Hood can turn a Knockout into a Kill if he dealt the last damage, other than that they're just variants on the same stats and rules. You're just restricting your options if you don't switch the cards around, and outside of a tournament no one is going to take issue with printed cards.

Oh, ok. Cool. Yeah, then if they're all the "original" version, and the originals were AC, then I guess that makes sense. Batman is the blueish costume with a batarang down by his side and he's standing straight.

Yeah, that's the Arkham City Batman, also the closest to a classic comic design and in my opinion the nicest Batman sculpt available (though I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the Batfleck in the Suicide Squad set next week!).

Yeah, the Batfleck suit was cool, but I didn't wanna jump on the suicide squad team. Team Bats should be a lot of fun, and I'm looking forward to it. Will likely eventually get Damien, Batgirl and Batwoman too.

With the sudden announcement of the Freeze gang, people should deffo have a look at the quick reference weapons section in the FLArrow book, you may find a henchmen freeze ray

Personally, the Bat-family is my favourite crew to play, the limited model count can be a challenge against larger teams but every model is usually very capable at their respective roles and complement each other nicely.

Those additions are a good idea. Batwoman is awesome, she does 80% of Batman's job just as well for less points, and Damien is nice as well, cheap but has a few tricks to set up other characters to really like on the damage. I've only used Batgirl a handful of times, but she's nice as a support character/objective runner.

Black Canary and Huntress are both really useful as well, and you also get the start of a Birds of Prey crew!

I was considering huntress as well, cuz she can definitely be argued as part of the Bat family. But I also wanted to stick strictly to one team per game...I have a habit of control loss. lol. I stuck with X-men, and I'll stick with Bat-family. Which includes the B of EM and all applicable sidekicks and team-bat characters.

I downloaded the free Marvel rules, is there any way to get the unit stat cards as well? Or is this a situation like Malifaux where the rules are free but the unit profiles only come with the models?

I find the free rules a nice gesture, but without unit cards and how to make a list it's a bit hard to see if it's something I want to take the plunge on, especially with the model prices as high as they are.


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Never mind, noticed the cards are under Product Data Sheet on each model sets page.