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2010/12/01 01:54:38
Subject: Charges in 8th
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Terrifying Wraith
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I think that the pendulum has swung to far to the opposite of first turn front rank wipers... I love all the new rules I've ran into (don't play hardcore opponents) and I feel that the loss of striking first for chargers should be reinstated... The other rules more than compensate, and correctly remove the first turn blow through with no attacks back... Thoughts?
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Fantasy: 4000 - WoC, 1500 - VC, 1500 - Beastmen
40k: 2000 - White Scars
Hordes: 5/100 - Circle of Orboros
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2010/12/01 03:04:54
Subject: Charges in 8th
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Monsters with breath weapons benefit greatly from chargers going first, because they'll be tossing out all their attacks, and 2D6 breath hits, and ending with a stomp.
I haven't seen charging going 1st being critical, but that might be because I don't run small units with low initiative.
I've tracked it a bit, and the +1 combat res for charging is often worth more than striking 1st.
-Matt
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2010/12/06 17:45:05
Subject: Charges in 8th
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just my 2 cents is that I think units with swifstride should gain always strikes first on the charge.
But I also think units with spears should negate always strikes first granted by charging units with swiftstride.
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WFB armies: Wood elves, Bretonnia, Daemons of Chaos (Tzeentch), Dwarfs & Orcs 'n Goblins
40K armies: Black Legion, Necrons, & Craftworld Iyanden |
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2010/12/07 03:39:02
Subject: Re:Charges in 8th
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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I think lances should gain +2 Str, +2 In on the turn they charge.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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2010/12/23 06:11:18
Subject: Charges in 8th
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Courageous Questing Knight
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Lances should just get ASF. What? Theyre gonna wait for their opponent to hit them, then poke em witha lance?
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2010/12/25 15:59:40
Subject: Charges in 8th
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Sinewy Scourge
Lawrence, KS
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Captain Solon wrote:Lances should just get ASF. What? Theyre gonna wait for their opponent to hit them, then poke em witha lance?
Without the rerolls, but yes.
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Therion wrote:6th edition lands on June 23rd!
Good news. This is the best time in the hobby. Full of promise. GW lets us down each time and we know it but secretly we're hoping that this is the edition that GW gives us a balanced game that can also be played competitively at tournaments. I'm loving it.
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2010/12/25 23:40:16
Subject: Charges in 8th
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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Captain Solon wrote:Lances should just get ASF. What? Theyre gonna wait for their opponent to hit them, then poke em witha lance?
Dont have any in my armies but I agree. Unless they charge a unit armed with spears but they still keep the +2S
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2010/12/26 14:43:47
Subject: Charges in 8th
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Matt65 wrote:Captain Solon wrote:Lances should just get ASF. What? Theyre gonna wait for their opponent to hit them, then poke em witha lance?
Dont have any in my armies but I agree. Unless they charge a unit armed with spears but they still keep the +2S
I think that knights armed with lances should get impact hits when they charge and maybe the impact hits should have the killing blow if the knight have charged over 15 inches.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/26 14:44:21
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