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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/01 21:12:02
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Three Color Minimum
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What happens when the Aspect Warriors are all out kicking face and the Mothership is jumped by baddies? Ring the psy-bell and summon the Guardian Malitia. To arms brothers!!
This is not an army and will likely never happen but I thought it would be fun to make an all-guardian list lead by the necessary Eldrad/Avatar duo. Feel free to post your own lists and have some fun. Would this work??
Eldrad
Avatar
15xGuardians
-Scatterlaser Platform
Warlock
-Conceal, Singing Spear
15xGuardians
-Scatterlaser Platform
Warlock
-Conceal, Singing Spear
10x Storm Guardians
-2x Flamers
Warlock
-Destructor
Waveserpent
-EML's, Spirit Stones
10x Storm Guardians
-2x Flamers
Warlock
-Destructor
Waveserpent
-EML's, Spirit Stones
6x Guardian Jetbikes
-2x Shuri Cannons
6x Guardian Jetbikes
-2x Shuri Cannons
3x War Walkers
-2xShuri cannons each
3x War Walkers
-2xShuri cannons each
3x War Walkers
-2x EML's each
Total: 1987pts
This is a grand total of 71 Guardians and a whole lot of angry Militia. I guess this would be the case where Eldar must rely entirely on their technology. Paper-thin but everything can put out a lot of wounds. This looks fun! Automatically Appended Next Post: I can't believe I forgot Support Platforms. Anyone wanna work those in instead of some War Walkers??
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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" -Issac Asimov (open to interpretation) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/01 21:54:12
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Fresh-Faced Inquisitorial Acolyte
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If you take out the EML War Walkers and add a battery of 3 Vibro Cannons, you'll get 60 points back, you can invest in adding some Scatter Lasers to a War Walker squad instead.
Looks like it would be fun to play, but it doesn't look extremely competitive. Might be good against swarmy armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/01 22:06:40
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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Support forms are no match for walkers
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What is the joy of life?
To die knowing that your task is done
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 01:51:16
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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looks decent actually.
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5000+ pts. Eldar 2500pts
"The only thing that match's the Eldar's firepower, is their arrogance".
8th General at Alamo GT 2011.
Tied 2nd General Alamo GT 2012
Top General Lower Bracket Railhead 2011
Top General Railhead 2012
# of Local Tournaments Won: 4
28-9-1 In Tournaments As Eldar.
Maintained a 75% Win Ratio As Eldar in 5th Edition GT's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 04:44:23
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Smitty0305 wrote:looks decent actually. I am with smitty on this one. Only in KP missions will this list suffer. Almost guaranteed to win objective based games, ore at least draw them. Only problem I see is that only Khaine and the two warlocks with the spears can reliably kill AV13/14. But in a 4+ objective game, this list is gold. I have seen players run a similar list, and they always own in objectives. Just the presence of 6 scoring units makes opponent target priority very difficult. And Fortune and Guide are very good in this list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 05:50:53
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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I say it looks pretty solid. My only major concern is heavy armor as in AV13/14. The list offers very little to combat that other than a MC, a few Singing Spears, and the occasional EML. Stuff that's running lots of Preds or LR lists are going to hurt a bit. I also prefer Scats over Shuris, better range, more shots and such. Pretty good though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 06:03:16
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I agree with the general sentiment. Lists like this are pretty solid. I made a similar list but I used 2 sets of 3 Vibro-cannons in my notional list. The last heavy slot was Scatterwalkers I believe. With Eldrad around, you could also think about tossing in a bright lance platform in one of the squads since they can be guided or just use them on the Storm Guard serpents (which is what I do in my real army)
Either way, all those wounds are hard to stop.
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Zain~
http://ynnead-rising.blogspot.com/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 08:34:02
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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This army has the flavor of Ulthwe.
I definitely like it. Maybe I'll play an army like this next time.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 09:57:09
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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wuestenfux wrote:This army has the flavor of Ulthwe.
I definitely like it. Maybe I'll play an army like this next time.
For anyone who has played this list type before, it is not as strong as when 5th edition originally launched, but it is fun and viable.
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War is my master; Death my mistress - Maugan Ra |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 10:00:46
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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phyrephly wrote:wuestenfux wrote:This army has the flavor of Ulthwe.
I definitely like it. Maybe I'll play an army like this next time.
For anyone who has played this list type before, it is not as strong as when 5th edition originally launched, but it is fun and viable.
This means no excuses for someone losing against this list.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 13:59:19
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Three Color Minimum
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The unfortunate truth is that without Fire Dragons and/or an Autarch with Fusion there is little Eldar in general can do against AV14. That being said, an Autarch is pretty fluffy in a list like this, if not nearly as useful as the Avatar. Also, I don't know if this list scales down very well as you lose a LOT of bodies to gain a few points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 14:56:18
Subject: Re:Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Mechanized Halqa
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Good list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 15:56:11
Subject: Re:Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Fixture of Dakka
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It looks fun. Not your typical mechdar list, but that's ok!
I'd suggest you try and few Brightlances in. That way, you'd have something that could handle AV14 at range. It's not as reliable as Fire Dragons, but it's decent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 18:21:01
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Three Color Minimum
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Ok, fun and fluffy being the theme: Craftworld is attacked and the valiant Autarch leads the militia in a last-ditch attempt to save their homes and lives.
Autarch (fusion, power wpn)
Farseer (guide, fortune, stones, warding)
4x 19 Guardians (Brightlance Plaform in each)
4x Warlock (Conceal, SingingS)
3 War walkers with Shuri Cannons
2x 2 Vibro Cannons
Total:1500pts
Entrech and survive!! More models on the table but a lot less competetive without the Waveserpents full of troops. 89 models though...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/02 19:43:56
Subject: Re:Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Wicked Warp Spider
A cave, deep in the Misty Mountains
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If the Avatar can get close enough, he can take down any mech, even AV14
on the long range, you are going to need bl or perhaps D cannons, though they are overpriced
Edit: I don't like the autarch. imo he ruins the fluff of the list, and as an ulthwe player, well I don't like him very much.
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Craftworld Eleuven 4500
LoneLictor on thread about an ork choking the Emperor:
LoneLictor wrote:I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.
Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/03 18:33:04
Subject: Eldar Guardian Militia Defence Corp!!
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Three Color Minimum
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So guess what? I posted up a Swap Shop thread this morning just to see if anyone had random guardians lying around. I'm already negotiating with a guy who has 73!! This may actually happen so I'm going to try and get a good list. Lets start with 1500-1750pts and try for plenty of bodies. What I have to work with:
-80 Guardians with 4 Platforms (I'll need to get these or convert make-shift implacements for the militia)
-10 Storm Guardians (if I use these then my Guardian cound drops to about 75 as some of the models will be interchangeable)
-6 Guardian Jetbikes, 2 with shuri cannons
-2 Farseers on Foot (or Farseer and "Eldrad")
-Avatar of Khaine
-Farseer on Bike
-Hopefully enough Warlocks
-3 Fire Prisms
-3 Vipers (weapons undecided)
-4 Wave Serpents
-3 War Walkers with Shuri Cannons
So far the list is:
"Eldrad"
3x 19 Guardians (Brightlance)
3x Warlock (Conceal, SingingS)
10 Storm Guardians (2 Fusion Guns)
Warlock (Singing Spear)
Waveserpent (EML's, Spirit Stones)
3 War Walkers (2 shuris each)
Fire Prism
Fire Prism
Automatically Appended Next Post: I know the Prisms break the theme but I have to work with what I've got and I need long-range flexibility.
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