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How would you incorporate a Druid like Space Marine army? I have an idea that I am fleshing out right now and I will post it up later once I have it, but I am wondering what you guys and gals think.

Space Wolf Rune Priests could definatley fit rules wise. As far as fluff goes, you could say they are psykers, but they use their powers to control nature or something.

Are you making a DIY chapter?

A DIY Chapter might come along from this. But for now I am just looking at Fluff ways they could exists.

but I am at a loss at how they could do it and still be loyal, this actually confuses me. Most anything else I could come up with.

As in, how could they literally be Druids? Well, Space Wolves are loyal, but they are very pagan, so it would surely work.

Toeko wrote:A DIY Chapter might come along from this. But for now I am just looking at Fluff ways they could exists.

but I am at a loss at how they could do it and still be loyal, this actually confuses me. Most anything else I could come up with.

it's tough to turn a 9 foot tall killing machine encased in metal into a convincing horticulturalist. i could see eldar or tau (maybe) pulling something like this off, but really, the grimdark reaches of space are not an environment ripe for that kind of thing. \

also, really, the only person who should wear a greek fisherman's hat is a greek fisherman. space marines and earth magic are just a rotten combo.

hemingway wrote:

Toeko wrote:A DIY Chapter might come along from this. But for now I am just looking at Fluff ways they could exists.

but I am at a loss at how they could do it and still be loyal, this actually confuses me. Most anything else I could come up with.

it's tough to turn a 9 foot tall killing machine encased in metal into a convincing horticulturalist. i could see eldar or tau (maybe) pulling something like this off, but really, the grimdark reaches of space are not an environment ripe for that kind of thing. \

also, really, the only person who should wear a greek fisherman's hat is a greek fisherman. space marines and earth magic are just a rotten combo.

I agree, its not something that happens. But I still want some way for it to work, anything can happen in 40k and I am a firm believer in that

Well, you'd probably need a chapter that believed the Emperor's Divine Power allowed the chapter to control the nature of planets themselves.

IDK, that'd make sense I suppose.

True, I was thinking of incorporating the Tech Virus that infects Oblits and other things into somewhere, being the reason they turned from technology

I am pretty sure a librarian could turn into a bear tank with lascannons

or an apothicary healing tree.

or an assassin cat form with stealth ;D

GamzaTheChaos wrote:I am pretty sure a librarian could turn into a bear tank with lascannons

or an apothicary healing tree.

or an assassin cat form with stealth ;D

Or a chicken/abominable snowman if he rolls balance just to spite his healerless guild

You guys have lost me.

Toeko wrote:True, I was thinking of incorporating the Tech Virus that infects Oblits and other things into somewhere, being the reason they turned from technology

You would also have to explain their escape from the inquisition, who would be on that with fire faster then your tech can say "ACHOOOO!".

Chapter is derived from a planet(system) with a long tradition of arborial/horticultural crafts. They have an innate affiliation with nature.
Good at terraforming.

As the Canis Helix is implanted/grafted why not some vegetative grafting.

The knowledge or skills need not necessarily be lost in the marination process.

It is a big galaxy so it could happen. You never know.

Happygrunt wrote:

Toeko wrote:True, I was thinking of incorporating the Tech Virus that infects Oblits and other things into somewhere, being the reason they turned from technology

You would also have to explain their escape from the inquisition, who would be on that with fire faster then your tech can say "ACHOOOO!".

Space Marines are together but separate when it comes to the Inquisition. unless it is like Blatant they can go on like it for years. Look at Space Wolves and Blood Angels. and the you have the dark angels which the imperium as a whole hardly knows anything about

hemingway wrote:it's tough to turn a 9 foot tall killing machine encased in metal into a convincing horticulturalist.

The samurai used to practice art and flower arranging as part of the samurai life. Using space wolves codex with wolf priests leading could work, but the main problem is that actual druids are peaceful so don't really make good angels of death.

Toeko wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:

Toeko wrote:True, I was thinking of incorporating the Tech Virus that infects Oblits and other things into somewhere, being the reason they turned from technology

You would also have to explain their escape from the inquisition, who would be on that with fire faster then your tech can say "ACHOOOO!".

Space Marines are together but separate when it comes to the Inquisition. unless it is like Blatant they can go on like it for years. Look at Space Wolves and Blood Angels. and the you have the dark angels which the imperium as a whole hardly knows anything about

You seem to have misunderstood the power of Excommunicate Traitoris, just look at what happened to the flame falcons they were loyal to the emperor but got nearly got destroyed by the inquisition. if a chapter has marines that turn into bears or stuff will get hunted down.

hemingway wrote:

Toeko wrote:A DIY Chapter might come along from this. But for now I am just looking at Fluff ways they could exists.

but I am at a loss at how they could do it and still be loyal, this actually confuses me. Most anything else I could come up with.

it's tough to turn a 10 foot tall killing machine encased in metal into a convincing horticulturalist. i could see eldar or tau (maybe) pulling something like this off, but really, the grimdark reaches of space are not an environment ripe for that kind of thing. \

also, really, the only person who should wear a greek fisherman's hat is a greek fisherman. space marines and earth magic are just a rotten combo.

Fixed as per DCM fluff policy 101

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Chapter is derived from a planet(system) with a long tradition of arborial/horticultural crafts. They have an innate affiliation with nature.
Good at terraforming.

As the Canis Helix is implanted/grafted why not some vegetative grafting.

The knowledge or skills need not necessarily be lost in the marination process.

It is a big galaxy so it could happen. You never know.

Not sure on the Canis Helix stuff. It was only ever used in founding 1 other chapter who promptly went insane.

A marine can carry the traditions from his homeworld... I'm sure it can work.

I can imagine a Shaman (sorry not sure what a druid would do, so using this as an example) using bones to divine the next course of action... having a medicine bag at his pouch that he uses to assist him with psychic shizz... And maybe hanging tree bark from his pauldrons... Hell, you could even stick a headdress on important peoples' helmets.

It also depends what you mean by Druid

If you mean Druid based on the modern relgion then it may not be very promising. Applying the caveat that I know nothing about it so if any Druids are watching no offence to your belirfs is intended.

However the Ancient Druids of which we know of through secondary, classical sources may be suitable as a basis for your priestly characters.
I think it is important from your perspective to seperate our concept of Nature and reimagine it as for example as it was perceived in the Iron Ages as a source of inspiration.
Hope that makes sense.

In terms of Inquisition, plenty of Chapters have skirted the rules pretty well, Space Wolves among others refuse to send their gene-seeds to Terra for review; and when they do they are of a dubious nature.
If Blood Angels can Insanguinate by drinking blood, then you can have a Druid Apothecary (Assuming you want him to use natural healing) or Librarian.

Also, perhaps you can have a Mark of Wulfen SW and make him a "werebear"

gorkamork wrote:In terms of Inquisition, plenty of Chapters have skirted the rules pretty well, Space Wolves among others refuse to send their gene-seeds to Terra for review; and when they do they are of a dubious nature.
If Blood Angels can Insanguinate by drinking blood, then you can have a Druid Apothecary (Assuming you want him to use natural healing) or Librarian.

Also, perhaps you can have a Mark of Wulfen SW and make him a "werebear"

Space wolves? Really?
I just thought of them as anti-authoritarian (if that's a word)
But Black Dragons? Yes, they resist sending them in, until they are threatened with military force. Then they send in their seed, except it's pure... o_o

I think it's plausible to have weird druid marines. Just be careful, and avoid heresy!!!!

gorkamork wrote:In terms of Inquisition, plenty of Chapters have skirted the rules pretty well, Space Wolves among others refuse to send their gene-seeds to Terra for review; and when they do they are of a dubious nature.If Blood Angels can Insanguinate by drinking blood, then you can have a Druid Apothecary (Assuming you want him to use natural healing) or Librarian.

Also, perhaps you can have a Mark of Wulfen SW and make him a "werebear"

Source?

Ed_Bodger wrote:

hemingway wrote:

Toeko wrote:A DIY Chapter might come along from this. But for now I am just looking at Fluff ways they could exists.

but I am at a loss at how they could do it and still be loyal, this actually confuses me. Most anything else I could come up with.

it's tough to turn a 8 foot tall killing machine encased in metal into a convincing horticulturalist. i could see eldar or tau (maybe) pulling something like this off, but really, the grimdark reaches of space are not an environment ripe for that kind of thing. \

also, really, the only person who should wear a greek fisherman's hat is a greek fisherman. space marines and earth magic are just a rotten combo.

Fixed as per DCM fluff policy 101

Fix as per what actually makes logical sense for a Marine in Power Armor.

Space Wolves 3rd Ed Dex, IIRC.
There was alot of fluff about how the Wolves were essentially giving the High Lords the finger.

gorkamork wrote:Space Wolves 3rd Ed Dex, IIRC.
There was alot of fluff about how the Wolves were essentially giving the High Lords the finger.

They still do in the current fluff just not as much.
I don't think 3ed fluff is canon anymore.

It would be failry simple to think that they believe that the God Emperor effects nature and has some influnece in it, which would mean that they have respect for it, thinking that it is an extenstion of hie will. So their libarians would tehn learn about nature and also use it to fight(SW would be a good fit codex wise) and their chaplins would preach their ideas. It really wouldn't be to hard to incorporate, you just have to bend the ideas a bit to fit with the darkness of the times. They would be battle druids, so their beilefs and coustoms would change due to the nature of warfare. I think this a cool idea, it would certianly make for an interesting DIY chapter, and you could use the DA models, mainly because of the robes, of the Black Templars because they have a very simliar religous feel.

I would think there is room in the rules between Space Wolves and Salamanders for Druids. You could even make them a purified version of the Death Guard or Word Bearers geneseed. Lots of psychers, specially engineered toxic woods for weaponry. Low reliance on vehicles, maybe a special rule for anti-fire weapons the way salamanders are pro-fireweapons. And maybe their homeworld is full of huge trees (I'm thinking of something like the wookie homeworld) the only vehicles would be skimmers.

gorkamork wrote:In terms of Inquisition, plenty of Chapters have skirted the rules pretty well, Space Wolves among others refuse to send their gene-seeds to Terra for review; and when they do they are of a dubious nature.
If Blood Angels can Insanguinate by drinking blood, then you can have a Druid Apothecary (Assuming you want him to use natural healing) or Librarian.

Most chapters can only get away with either regular slighty overdue tithes or not paying tithes for a few hundred years, if it gets to long a fleet will get sent out (one of the reasons for the badab war), using first founding chapters as a proof doesn't really work as they get far more leeway than other chapters

bluto wrote:I would think there is room in the rules between Space Wolves and Salamanders for Druids. You could even make them a purified version of the Death Guard or Word Bearers geneseed. Lots of psychers, specially engineered toxic woods for weaponry. Low reliance on vehicles, maybe a special rule for anti-fire weapons the way salamanders are pro-fireweapons. And maybe their homeworld is full of huge trees (I'm thinking of something like the wookie homeworld) the only vehicles would be skimmers.

Of all the annoying ''i want my chapter to be super cool and interesting'' backstory setups, using the geneseed of chapters that fell to chaos is the worst. The IoM destroyed nearly everything closely related to the chaos legions. Mars may have the geneseed but to use it would be heresy of the highest order.

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BluntmanDC wrote: Of all the annoying ''i want my chapter to be super cool and interesting'' backstory setups, using the geneseed of chapters that fell to chaos is the worst. The IoM destroyed nearly everything closely related to the chaos legions. Mars may have the geneseed but to use it would be heresy of the highest order.

This. It's simply sloppy and lazy thinking. Part of the reason I hope and pray to Tuxedo Jesus that GW doesnt link the Thousand Sons and Blood Ravens.
I like the compassion that the Salamanders have for humanity, so link that genetic compassion to nature instead and you have yourself a chapter. SW are good too, problem lies that fluff traditionally states there are no SW successors any more. Its a worthy project and I wish you luck with it.