C'tan killer?

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**samius**

What is the best way for IG to kill the Nightbringer??

**timetowaste85**

Switch to Daemons and bring Skulltaker

No, in all seriousness, a punisher Leman Russ-20 shots at it when it only has a 4+ invul save will kill it pretty quickly. Or a lot of heavy weapon lascannons. Also, if you have any poisoned guns, such as SM Sternguards' special ammunition (I'm not 100% sure on what the IG codex has) that will drop it quickly too. Hopefully that helps (minus the Skulltaker part).

**samius**

Haha, thanks, i just got some lascannons so ill put them to good use. also would the medusa (mortar thing) be any good? I've thinking about the different tank/artillery options and cant decide.

**asimo77**

Sniper rifles could work

**timetowaste85**

I'm not quite sure what the Medusa does-I'm just going based on what I have fought. If you had 3 punishers though, I think that's about 500 points or so, but it'll unleash 60 S6 shots, and at least 30 will hit, 5 should wound, and it'll take 2-3 turns using basic math hammer. You should probably have about 2 turns of doing that...so that should work unless they block it with monoliths. That's just the best thing that I can think of, based on what I've seen so far of the codex.

**asimo77**

the punisher is only S5 IIRC

**MechaEmperor7000**

5 and 6 will still yield the same To Wound roll. Only S4 cant harm the C'tan.

**timetowaste85**

Hmm, then my friend may have cheated (wouldn't be the first time). Haha. Oh well. I don't have the IG codex in front of me, somebody wanna set me straight on the strength of it? Also, Asimo77, do you wanna finally get back to me on your thoughts for the Necron Codex I built? Haha, been a few weeks now since you said you'd comment on it again

**MechaEmperor7000**

Punisher is S5. Strange I thought it was S6 too...

**samius**

the medusa has 2 shots
1: 36 R, s10, AP 2 large blast
or
2:48R, s 10, AP 1 blast

**MechaEmperor7000**

Blast Shots probably wont work that well against C'tan, since they ever only score one hit. If Al Rahim could wound him, then he would be a great asset. However he cant, so he isnt.

**timetowaste85**

Okay, then back to my first idea. Switch to daemons and take Skulltaker. He insta-kills C'tan

**Dashofpepper**

Lascannons and sniper fire.

You either wound on 3+ with the lascannons or pull dirty sniper tricks. The new DE are going to make C'Tans sad pandas too with poisoned 4+.

**timetowaste85**

Dash, if somebody paints a C'tan up in panda colors with tears going down its cheeks, I'm holding you personally responsible after that mental image!

**MechaEmperor7000**

3 Heavy Weapon Squads outfitted with Lascannons can probably kill the C'tan in one or two turns (each 3-man squad can statistically inflict one wound per turn on the Ctan, so statistically 2 turns should kill one). To top it off, 3 such heavy weapon squads are actualy 55 points cheaper than the Nightbringer, so you could spend the points your opponent used to buy his NB just to get this squad to kill it, then use them to pop his Monoliths or warrior squads.

**asimo77**

timetowaste85 wrote:Hmm, then my friend may have cheated (wouldn't be the first time). Haha. Oh well. I don't have the IG codex in front of me, somebody wanna set me straight on the strength of it? Also, Asimo77, do you wanna finally get back to me on your thoughts for the Necron Codex I built? Haha, been a few weeks now since you said you'd comment on it again

Oh wow I totally forgot about that sorry

Doesn't help I have the thriced damned finals upon me. The schoolwork never ends

Though to be honest I'm so far from being an expert in 40k that I doubt I could help that much

**timetowaste85**

Well, I'm passing the codex to 3 of my friends for xmas presents since they are sick of the crappy old rules. So I just wanted to get some more feedback on whether it was useful for them

Take your time, you have until X-mas. Then I'll start getting grumpy. haha

I think I hijacked your thread Samius. Sorry

**Mordoskul**

Sniper rifles are proprbly your best bet, that flying bastard can shrug off most heavy weapons with a simple 'meh' with his Invulnrable Save.

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Eldar Rangers can take 'em down given enough time.

**timetowaste85**

Well, we know he can shrug off most of the blasts, which is why we were talking about a bunch of heavy weapon squads eventually wearing him down. But yea, snipers are great. My Eldar snipers have dropped squads of thunderwolves. Oh, that was a happy day

**Mordoskul**

Heavy weapons take to long to kill the Nightbringer, giving it plenty of time to float his ethereal ass around and butcher your more squishy troops (i.e all of your infantry). Snipers can more efficiently take it down for a smaller point value.

**samius**

thanks guys, and no problem timetowaste85, ill probebly add a squad of ratlings to my army

**timetowaste85**

make it a big squad of ratlings. They're what, 13 pts/model? (if memory serves me correctly). Take 10. or a couple squads of 10. More, if you can take more in a squad. At that cost, it would take 3 squads of 10 to equal the nightbringers cost. And if they can take him out, the rest of your stuff is cheap enough that those ratlings are points well spent.

**samius**

ill take at least one as well as my las cannon team thanks a bunch

**Cantus**

As someone who regularly plays against necrons as IG, my advice is (and im sure you get this enough) just don't bother. It's a total waste of resources that should just be put towards phasing him out.

However, if you're intent on it, like people have said, lascannons are probably your best bet I think because they can be used for other stuff too.
Primaris Psyker can be extremely useful too if you roll well.
Snipers are nice, but not my favorite. Ratlins are cheap but they're woefully ineffective from at least my experience. You need a bunch if you ever want to hurt anything.

If you really just want a designated c'tan killing block to just cancel out the points, like someone said, get a bunch of ratlings.

The best way is to droppod a squad of sternguards within rapid fire distance and hellfire the feth out of it- dead turn 1

Taking that as not an option.. It'll be annoying.

**samius**

i ended up allying with some ultra marines. We used a mixture of scout snipers, las cannons and hunter killer missiles.
thanks for the advice.

**Samus_aran115**

timetowaste85 wrote:Switch to Daemons and bring Skulltaker

No, in all seriousness, a punisher Leman Russ-20 shots at it when it only has a 4+ invul save will kill it pretty quickly. Or a lot of heavy weapon lascannons. Also, if you have any poisoned guns, such as SM Sternguards' special ammunition (I'm not 100% sure on what the IG codex has) that will drop it quickly too. Hopefully that helps (minus the Skulltaker part).

No. Just..No.

Don't listen to this man. You need a 6 to wound him at T8, which means you'll score less than a wound per turn...

Try spamming lascannons and autocannons and hope you get lucky.

Snipers, eh? Yeah, you can take ten of them for like 100 points or so, which is pretty good, since the rest of the elites section is utter garbage. Go do that

**Asherian Command**

plasma always seems to work for me.