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So, I've made a 2500 point army of brettonians.

Problem is, there are over 230 models in this army.

What I need is...
Small as possible
Relatively cheap
Foam for...
72 individual bowmen
46 individual men at arms
52 men at arms on bases of four
Thirty knights
Thirty knights horses
1 paladin w battle standard glued to warhorse
2 Pegasus knights
One extra dismount, a lord
A prophetess(damsel)

Buy a rifle case for a .22 They are relativly cheap at around 10 bucks or so at Walmart.

Another option is to make a case out of styro and cardboard, and fit it into a hobby carrying case. Around 10 bucks or so at the local Hobby Lobby.

1.
it's rather irritating when Americans [no offence to the country] just put out rifle case as the best option.

We are not all in america, so not all of us can get rifle cases, let alone rifles [don't get me wrong, I'd love to own a rifle] but it's a rather futile suggestion and shows a lack of your bothering to have a look at the situation.

As a rule, it's a good idea to assume the person you're talking about can't get their hands on guns.

and 2.

instead of offering an option you say make my own trays, but find your own case

the case is what I need. I'd go battlefoam but it seems they're a tad bulky.

Yeah, apparently gun cases are amazing. It's just that this is kinda useless for UK/Europe/Australia.

I'll say the same as in all these threads - I use KR Multicase for all my minis - I think I have about 12 of their card cases and their 'Kaiser' bag to carry the ones I need to each game.

They're smaller than GW/Battlefoam cases, cheaper than everyone, and store a HUGE amount in them if your figure out your custom foam first.

http://www.krmulticase.com/mainint.html

Well you can get airsoft rifle cases that are pretty well padded, just a tad more expensive than $10
http://www.airsofteire.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=772&category_id=38&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26

Or look upon ebay for them. Perfectly legal and all.

K99, you've just ignored my rant.

I dislike that.

Arbi, thankyou.

Captain Solon wrote:K99, you've just ignored my rant.

I dislike that.

Arbi, thankyou.

The KR site can be a little daunting at first site, the best thing is to speak with Daryl who runs the company.

sales@krmulticase.co.uk

If you drop him an email with your above list and that you need it in as small a case as possible he will be able to advise you on the best selection of trays to meet your requirements.

He also lists standard tray fits for given units here.

http://www.krmulticase.com/whatfits.html#Bretonnia

Hope this helps.

Captain Solon wrote:K99, you've just ignored my rant.

I dislike that.

Arbi, thankyou.

No, no, just with everyone else talking about rifle cases and you saying that you couldnt get them I just thought I would show you alternatives for the same kind of product.

No ignoring was meant.

you should try and get a rifle....errr i mean billy club case, yeah thats it.


*whisltes and walks away, quickly

Well, obviously the "Eye of Terra" is in the United States, so it's a safe assumption to think you can easily find a rifle case.
You're looking for 'slim'. Rifle cases are 'slim'.

Personally, I prefer Portable Warfare foam stored in an Office Max rolly-cart. They fold up 'slim'.

Thats a stupid assumption to make.

In fact, terra is just land. it doesn't refer to earth.

why would it be in the US? even if you're joking, I find that offencive!

Captain Solon wrote:offencive!

Crazy kid, making up words.

Try KR, they are pretty good, as are battlefoam.

Yes a rifle case is a good idea and they can be brought throughout the world and are a good alternative for gamers wanting a slim case and popular. I have two and don't own any firearms, airsoft or pellet guns. Look up flight cases, you can get these from place like Tandy and maplins, they are similar.

Instead of a rifle case try a bow case, i'm in the UK and we can get them, they're almost exactly the same but for bows(duh)

i'm not sure on the legality of Bows in australia so YMMV

Since you can't get guns or gun cases (although I don't know why a case would be illegal) Perhaps try an old violin case. Perhaps from a second hand store.

niceguyteddy wrote:Since you can't get guns or gun cases (although I don't know why a case would be illegal) Perhaps try an old violin case. Perhaps from a second hand store.

Exactly, I know gun ownership is far more limited in Australia, but you can still own shotguns over there, can't you? If so, I see no reason why rifle cases wouldn't be available in whatever sort of sporting goods stores that exist there. I live in MA and the gun ownership laws are ridiculous here compared with most of the U.S., yet I know where I can simply head out to and buy a gun case from. Besides, as pointed out above, what exactly about a gun case would be illegal? Even if you have to order one online as you can't find one locally, I don't see the issue.

Also, I'd just like to say there was no reason at all to be rude to Grot 6. Admittedly, he's often rude himself in many a thread, but he was actually trying to be helpful here without any arrogance. Sure, he didn't notice that you're from Australia, but that's no reason to respond to him the way that you did. In short, please be polite.

Yeah, sorta comes across like you've got a chip on your shoulder about Americans.

Anyhow, I'll put in another good word for KR multicase- lightweight, cheap, easy to customise. Yes please!

I used to just use a toolbox for my minis, with bubblewrap inside. If you're careful that works alright.

Captain Solon wrote:1.
it's rather irritating when Americans [no offence to the country] just put out rifle case as the best option.

Gun ownership in the UK is pretty similar to Australia and I have no problem finding cheap gun cases here. Have you actually looked?

ETA, apparently you haven't. Here's the first search result for "rifle case australia": http://www.nioa.net.au/CommercialView.aspx?catID=1101#catID1106


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Neconilis wrote:Exactly, I know gun ownership is far more limited in Australia, but you can still own shotguns over there, can't you?

And bolt-action rifles. Semi-rifles are available but more heavily restricted.


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ArbitorIan wrote:Yeah, apparently gun cases are amazing. It's just that this is kinda useless for UK/Europe/Australia.

Nonsense - rifles are available to own in all of those countries and rifle cases are available and cheap in all of them. Not quite as cheap as the US but that's just because we don't have Walmart.
http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/product/544b2270d9315a9691827103/Dosko+Single+Rifle+Case+'28PLH10476'29/

Rifle cases are the cheapest way of transporting lots of stuff. Mine has most of my MK2 rhino chassis in it.

Agreed... quite an overreaction! Also using language like "stupid" "irritating" "dislike" "ignored" is not a good way to get more feedback, when people were actually making valid suggestions for you... as the above poster shows.

However, I would suggest against getting a rifle case for this reason- even somewhere where guns are legal, such as in America with the right permit, there are different laws in different states about how they can be carried, etc. And certainly, walking around with a gun case will get you looks almost anywhere.

So I'd go with the KR case suggested above... I'm actually very interested in it myself, but unfortunately they are much harder to get in the states.

RiTides wrote:However, I would suggest against getting a rifle case for this reason- even somewhere where guns are legal, such as in America with the right permit, there are different laws in different states about how they can be carried, etc. And certainly, walking around with a gun case will get you looks almost anywhere.

Actually in places like the UK, where most people have never seen a real gun, it never occurs to people that it might be a rifle. They assume that it's sports equipment, an instrument, etc... (I get the same thing with sword cases - everyone thinks it's a hockey stick or a fishing rod)

That makes sense, Scott- and in your pic above, I wouldn't necessarily think rifle case if I saw that, either. I guess I was thinking of ones that follow the outline of the gun more- a square one like that is pretty sweet!

There's another kind of case you haven't yet considered; a suitcase. Small enough to fit under the bed and if you buy models with wheels you'll have no bother dragging your army around.

I am quite scared of the reply I'll get. I wonder if it will be as unforgiving and repugnant as other replies? Hmmm.

On the other hand I can vouch for KR multicases, I have a few now and can be modded to fit anything, even small suitcases.

You've suggested something that an australian official won't go batcrap crazy over.

I'm sorry for the fact that I got upset. but it is true that australian laws [mostly customs] can be rediculous.

Once, I went to italy, I bought a pellet uzi. [oh god. what a crime]
when I brought it home, I didn't take the pellets [I just wanted the uzi] and they told me it couldn't come into the country because it has working parts.

one, was a '5 megawatt' torch, which you attached to the side [which happened to be powered by a triple-a battery.] so, you can understand why I'm cautious about buying such things, even if it isn't a gun itself. they're rediculous.

If you knew your local gun laws, you'd know that pellet guns are legal but restricted. (category A)

A case is a case. There's nothing restricted about it.

The real problem with wanting to use a gun case in Australia is one of availability.

Because of the gun laws there aren't as many gun owners in australia, which means that gun cases are non-existent in metropolitan areas (which is where i'm going to assume the OP lives, because if he did live in a rural area he would have access to the cases but probably wouldn't have been exposed to wargaming in the first place or not have access to models. Or knowing the Australian internet wouldn't even be able to get onto dakka to ask the question )

Basically in Australia gun cases aren't really a viable option because they aren't readily available outside of country towns and some "bogan" areas.

A quick search on google shows that this is simply not true. Brisbane, for example, has a bunch of gun shops. (I assume you don't class Brisbane as a "country town"?)

Do you think the UK has a lot more gun owners? (it doesn't). Yet my nearest large city has two.

And, of course, the internet makes this even less important since you can simply mail order what you want.


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RiTides wrote:That makes sense, Scott- and in your pic above, I wouldn't necessarily think rifle case if I saw that, either. I guess I was thinking of ones that follow the outline of the gun more- a square one like that is pretty sweet!

Square cases seem to be more common here, most gun owners (even airgun and airsoft owners) feel that they have to hide their hobby away. Shameful state of affairs really. Even all the soft cases I've bought (for guns) have been square.