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Okay, first they need to elvove a genestealer that can inplant something into the eldar which means that the hive mind can communicate with them via pysic power (both nids and eldar have it) but it only needs one. Then, the nids enslave this one eldar and keep it for almost of pysic connection with all the eldar. Then, the hive mind shuts off all the nids, so they are not killed in the process. Then, the hive mind concerntrates so hard that he generates an extremly huge amount of pysic power. Then he sends it to all the eldar and there heads get so packed up with the power that they jst cant take it anymore and their brain literatly explode. Same with dark eldar. Well thats two races out of the picture.

I'm not sure you get how it works.
Also DE aren't as psychic as the Eldar. In fact they are almost completly not psychic. (Not blank just normal)
And what is to stop the Eldar from kiling this infected individual? How would the Hive Mind focus it's power into the Eldar race from 1 individual?
Considering how the hive mind is the collective consciousness of all the 'Nids combined how would it do anything if it disconnected all of them?
How do you make lasagne?

I don't think that this is even feasibly possible from a fluff stand-point. It is far more likely that the Tyranids would send in a massive invasion force to just wipe out the Craftworld, employing Doom of Malanti esk units may eventually become commonplace for hive fleets, however, I just do not see this happening. Oh, and Dark Eldar frown on psykers... I think...

Yeah, I gotta agree. I don't think you can "turn off" Nids. I mean, I only read all their fluff, so I probably wouldn't know, but...

If anyone wanted to kill Eldar, all you have to do is gather a force of a few billion and go to each craftworld, one by one. You need to numbers so that the Eldar Farseers have trouble affecting little things (in the way they do), in any kind of efficient manner.

TheRedArmy wrote:Yeah, I gotta agree. I don't think you can "turn off" Nids. I mean, I only read all their fluff, so I probably wouldn't know, but...

If anyone wanted to kill Eldar, all you have to do is gather a force of a few billion and go to each craftworld, one by one. You need to numbers so that the Eldar Farseers have trouble affecting little things (in the way they do), in any kind of efficient manner.

You would also need to find each craftworld. Since their farseers would litterally be able to see it coming that would be difficult.

Forgot that. Yeah, they move. So GL HF.

If you look at Tyranid's psychic creatures, you'll see that they have extremely large amounts of brain matter. This is necessary in order to funnel the large quantities of psychic energy from the hive mind before it can be broadcast. The risk of your plan is that the one eldar's brain can fail before it can broadcast the signal. If you had multiple eldar infected, you can support a larger signal, but your theory is plausible, it just needs work.

So you would need a lot of Eldar and unless you bred them it would take a long time to capture enough. Probably easier to simply kill them they old fashioned way.

Either you need a lot, or a few in key areas. A single mind could broadcast to a certain radius before overloading. If you could scatter the infected eldar, you could cover a large swathe of the craftworld, eliminating a large portion of the population.

Mr Nobody wrote:Either you need a lot, or a few in key areas. A single mind could broadcast to a certain radius before overloading. If you could scatter the infected eldar, you could cover a large swathe of the craftworld, eliminating a large portion of the population.

Why bother when swarmy goodness has been proved to work so well?

The Webway being their scape goat in that the 'Nids do not have the capability to enter it... AT LEAST FOR NOW!!!

TheRedArmy wrote:Yeah, I gotta agree. I don't think you can "turn off" Nids. I mean, I only read all their fluff, so I probably wouldn't know, but...

You ever "turn on" a nid? not pretty. Not not pretty.

DEUS VULT wrote:

TheRedArmy wrote:Yeah, I gotta agree. I don't think you can "turn off" Nids. I mean, I only read all their fluff, so I probably wouldn't know, but...

You ever "turn on" a nid? not pretty. Not not pretty.

Not want.

Footsloggin wrote:The Webway being their scape goat in that the 'Nids do not have the capability to enter it... AT LEAST FOR NOW!!!

Although scape goat is the wrong word. I presume you mean their escape plan? If so then +1 for getting a good idea.

Yes, scape goat being the wrong phrase, rather escape plan fits. The Tyranids do not possess the capability to traverse the webway.

Genestealers could go into hibernation when entering the webway. If not found, they could call out to the hive mind when they exit.

Mr Nobody wrote:Genestealers could go into hibernation when entering the webway. If not found, they could call out to the hive mind when they exit.

If they exit. What if they are killed? What if they come out somehwere where there isn't a craftworld?
How would they get intot he webway in the first place?
I think the biggest problem is that the farseers will see any trick or subtlty that the hive mind uses.
So if they try to get into the webway the Eldar will be there to close any exposed gates.
And as the title says "How the nids could easily destory the eldar easily" Most of these are not easy to do.
It's probably easier to simply ram billions of gaunts down their throats than try and make their heads explode through thinking really really hard.

Footsloggin wrote:Yes, scape goat being the wrong phrase, rather escape plan fits. The Tyranids do not possess the capability to traverse the webway.

You're assuming that the Hive Mind somehow knows more about the Eldar than most. Even after Iyaden and Malan'tai they wouldn't have much knowledge regarding the Eldar. Even the most high ranking inquisitors are aware of the existence of the Webway, and certainly not up to scratch on it's workings.

Yes, but assuming that a single lictor managed to consume the mind of an eldar with knowledge of the Webway(do ALL eldar know about the Webway?), than the tyranid hive mind will know of the webway. Such is the way of feeder tendrils.

Footsloggin wrote:Yes, but assuming that a single lictor managed to consume the mind of an eldar with knowledge of the Webway(do ALL eldar know about the Webway?), than the tyranid hive mind will know of the webway. Such is the way of feeder tendrils.

Do lictors DO that? I mean, if one ate an Imperial Construction Worker, would they suddenly be able to design an Imperial building?

Footsloggin wrote:Yes, but assuming that a single lictor managed to consume the mind of an eldar with knowledge of the Webway(do ALL eldar know about the Webway?), than the tyranid hive mind will know of the webway. Such is the way of feeder tendrils.

I'm not sure how feeder tendrils work in the new codex (fluffwise) but i'm not sure they know everything the victim knew.

Picked from the Tyranids Codex: page 41

"They [Feeder Tendrils] are used to lobotomise a victim so that the lictor can swiftly devour its brain and absorb its memories. Thus, in death, the enemy reveals more to a lictor than it ever did in life, betraying the whereabouts of comrades and revealing any weakness that might be exploited."

So yes, it could design an Imperial building, but it wouldn't. Just because it has no purpose for constructing such a building.

Footsloggin wrote:Picked from the Tyranids Codex: page 41

"They [Feeder Tendrils] are used to lobotomise a victim so that the lictor can swiftly devour its brain and absorb its memories. Thus, in death, the enemy reveals more to a lictor than it ever did in life, betraying the whereabouts of comrades and revealing any weakness that might be exploited."

So yes, it could design an Imperial building, but it wouldn't. Just because it has no purpose for constructing such a building.

Right then...
Yeah they would know about it but i doubt many know how it works. If not the Eldar are screwed.

Wow, so if a Lictor got ahold of someone like a Harlequin who actually knows how the Webway works the Eldar could be in deep doo-doo.

In other news, I want to see a converted Lictor wearing a saftey hat and directing gaunts in building an Imperial Building.

"New to 40k are construction workers! ... WHY ARE THEY TYRANIDS?!?!?"

Anyway, I honestly would want to know what happened if they ate out a harlequin's brain...

Footsloggin wrote: "New to 40k are construction workers! ... WHY ARE THEY TYRANIDS?!?!?"

Hard workers, never complain. A bit gribbly, but you only need to feed them a planet or two and they quiet down.

Anyway, I honestly would want to know what happened if they ate out a harlequin's brain...

The Hive Mind would become aware that 40k is just one gigantic, cosmic joke and break down in manical laughter, buying the Imperium time to shore up their defences.

Eldar are far more resistant to Tyranids than human planets.

1. Eldar ships move around unpredictably, so they are difficult to find.
2. There is not much biomass on them, so they are not a good target.
3. The psychic signature that Tyranids home on is much smaller than a planet, so they are difficult to find.
4. It's impossible to "infect" a Craftworld with spores as a planet can be infected, so they are not a good target.

All in all, an Eldar craftworld is safe from the Tyranids unless it is unlucky enough to be right in front of an advancing fleet, or GW want to sell a special model.

^ Still, this doesn't stop their invasions, and with the Tyranid forces approaching from every possible direction, Craft-Worlds are bound to be caught within their path.

However... *CoughDoomofMalan'taiCoughHackChokeDie*

The Imperium could just invent a superweapon and blow them up, how's this any different? Seems like a strecth. The Eldar could make a magic-anti-nid-brain-detroyer-psychic-beam to.

ostrich160 wrote:Okay, first they need to elvove a genestealer that can inplant something into the eldar which means that the hive mind can communicate with them via pysic power (both nids and eldar have it) but it only needs one. Then, the nids enslave this one eldar and keep it for almost of pysic connection with all the eldar. Then, the hive mind shuts off all the nids, so they are not killed in the process. Then, the hive mind concerntrates so hard that he generates an extremly huge amount of pysic power. Then he sends it to all the eldar and there heads get so packed up with the power that they jst cant take it anymore and their brain literatly explode. Same with dark eldar. Well thats two races out of the picture.

I dont really think you understand how the Hive Mind works.
Youre talking about it like its a single individual, like a Chaos God. Its not. Its an amalgamation of all the psychic power of all the Tyranids.