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How did the emperor come about?Yes i know it says no one knows in the sm codex but does anyone have any ideas?

In an old codex he was a warloard on earth wich united earth (now holy Terra) by force.

In the book Mechanicum it is mentioned that he was around during the 11th or 12th century. It wasn't certain which just that he was doing something back then.

define come about? if you mean where he came from a bunch a shaman's killed themselves to be reincarnated into one body, thus making the emperor. if you mean the whole campaign on earth basically he was a warlord who unified terra threw sheer force of the proto-astartes

n0t_u wrote:In the book Mechanicum it is mentioned that he was around during the 11th or 12th century. It wasn't certain which just that he was doing something back then.

wow cant believe everyone forgot

He was created when a load of shamans realised they were not being reborn into new bodies (sort of what the eldar used to be like) they commited mass suicide to pool all there power and knowledge into one being... Da Eperor.
this hasnt been retconed so its still part o the fluff

This should help:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Emperor

He was created when a load of shamans realised they were not being reborn into new bodies (sort of what the eldar used to be like) they commited mass suicide to pool all there power and knowledge into one being... Da Eperor.
this hasnt been retconed so its still part o the fluff

@Formosa, I've only ever read that on forums. Do you know the source where I can read it for myself? I really like the explanation, but I mentioned it to a GW employee. I'm sure I heard "noob" as I walked out the door.

We know he is ancient and has been around for nearly as long as humanity. Fluff, even from Lexicanum, states that only he himself knows or remembers. A prevailing theory, heralded as official canon, is that he was 'formed' by the sacrifice of ancient human shamans. Though there is little solid fluff to support this. (And yes, I have read the damn link, and no, it's nowhere near concrete).

For all we know he was simply born to a mortal family, in a mortal manner, yet he was gifted with immense powers, and very possibly one of the first human psykers.

Hangfire wrote:

He was created when a load of shamans realised they were not being reborn into new bodies (sort of what the eldar used to be like) they commited mass suicide to pool all there power and knowledge into one being... Da Eperor.
this hasnt been retconed so its still part o the fluff

@Formosa, I've only ever read that on forums. Do you know the source where I can read it for myself? I really like the explanation, but I mentioned it to a GW employee. I'm sure I heard "noob" as I walked out the door.

realms of chaos:slaves to darkness and the lost and the damned

Formosa wrote:wow cant believe everyone forgot

He was created when a load of shamans realised they were not being reborn into new bodies (sort of what the eldar used to be like) they commited mass suicide to pool all there power and knowledge into one being... Da Eperor.
this hasnt been retconed so its still part o the fluff

i didn't... in fact i posed that up just left a few parts out to let people draw their own conclusions

Emperors Faithful wrote:We know he is ancient and has been around for nearly as long as humanity. Fluff, even from Lexicanum, states that only he himself knows or remembers. A prevailing theory, heralded as official canon, is that he was 'formed' by the sacrifice of ancient human shamans. Though there is little solid fluff to support this. (And yes, I have read the damn link, and no, it's nowhere near concrete).

For all we know he was simply born to a mortal family, in a mortal manner, yet he was gifted with immense powers, and very possibly one of the first human psykers.

Realm of Chaos books are the source of this information.

"where did the emperor come from?"
"ask your parents."
later:
"when a mummy and a daddy love each other very much, they..."

seriously?
Chuck Norris did it.

The only real explaination is the Shamen theory.


Humans had a high percentage of Psykers, these were the various Tribe leaders for 1ks of years. they would die and be reborn into new bodies.

the Warp began to be turbulant and Shamens began to stop being reborn as they were eaten by Deamons.

all the Shamens got together and commited suicide so they would be reborn into one body.

this became the Emperor.


it's also why Humanity didin't have any psykers.

It has been said before that some Eldar souls were, instead of being reborn as Eldar, were being reborn as Humans. this could be why humanity has Psykers now, the Emperor has all the Psychic potential of his race so there is no other way for new psykers to emerge. possably it is the Emperor who is stealing these Eldar souls and putting them into Humans.

Grey Templar wrote:The Emperor has all the Psychic potential of his race so there is no other way for new psykers to emerge.

that's a bit selfish. emperor- you need to learn to share.

If he was around so early it begs the question how come so much was lost in the Age of Strife? Surely a man with the intelligence, psychic might and forethought such as him should have been stockpiling the ability to build the wonderful things that humanity could achieve?

IvanTih wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:We know he is ancient and has been around for nearly as long as humanity. Fluff, even from Lexicanum, states that only he himself knows or remembers. A prevailing theory, heralded as official canon, is that he was 'formed' by the sacrifice of ancient human shamans. Though there is little solid fluff to support this. (And yes, I have read the damn link, and no, it's nowhere near concrete).

For all we know he was simply born to a mortal family, in a mortal manner, yet he was gifted with immense powers, and very possibly one of the first human psykers.

Realm of Chaos books are the source of this information.

I was under the impression that it was one explanation, not an affirmation of his actual story.

Simo429 wrote:If he was around so early it begs the question how come so much was lost in the Age of Strife? Surely a man with the intelligence, psychic might and forethought such as him should have been stockpiling the ability to build the wonderful things that humanity could achieve?

It would have been hard for the Emperor to forsee the fall of the Eldar Empire, although I have a sneaking suspicions that he had taken some measures of preperation, namely the STC's. Without them humanity would have long since been lost to the dark.

Emperors Faithful wrote:I was under the impression that it was one explanation, not an affirmation of his actual story.

It is the actual background for the Emperor, with some hints in the Horus Heresy Series, I forget which novel it is now but I recall Horus knowing about the Emperor's birth place as Anatolia.

For the record though, the Emperor, or rather the New Man, was born to human parents and for a time lived an ordinary human life until He began to recall all of the memories of the Shamen, from whom His soul was created and thus, having a soul which is the constituent of thousands of ancient psykers (the Shamen had been reincarnating for millions of years and retained all of their knowledge) the New Man became and was the most powerful human psyker to have ever existed.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Simo429 wrote:If he was around so early it begs the question how come so much was lost in the Age of Strife? Surely a man with the intelligence, psychic might and forethought such as him should have been stockpiling the ability to build the wonderful things that humanity could achieve?

It would have been hard for the Emperor to forsee the fall of the Eldar Empire, although I have a sneaking suspicions that he had taken some measures of preperation, namely the STC's. Without them humanity would have long since been lost to the dark.

The New Man did foresee the Age of Strife and the birth of Slaanesh but even He was unable to succesfully control the way in which Humanity developed. The New Man gave Humanity much technological and scientific knowledge and tried via various means to show Humanity the right path but in the end Humanity developed in ways the New Man could not control. The New Man, by trapping the Dragon on Mars, sowed the seeds of the Mechanicum knowing that they would preserve Humanity's technological knowledge for later use. When the nascent Slaanesh brought about the Age of Strife the New Man also used that time to prepare for the Great Crusade, eventually taking on the mantle of Emperor and uniting Earth and eventually the Sol System.

I have no evidence to support these theory's but oh well...

He was really a bunny that fell into the warp and turned into a man and then did all of the uniting stuff...

He's really a god that came down to earth...


He's President lincon...